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On September 16 2015 21:15 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 21:11 Rollora wrote:On September 16 2015 21:08 10bulgares wrote:On September 16 2015 21:06 Rollora wrote:On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/ tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3 Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3? I expected it somehow. Gumihow is a guy who surprises with builds sometimes but not with game control. He is often times very sloppy, I wondered how he could advance over flash, but then again this was flash throwing the game(3) and a BO loss in game 1. Precisely, what we saw in Gumiho's games against Flash was that he had a better "game control" than Flash. aha? Did you see other games? In Game 1 he made a game winning early attack (which I meant with openers/builds), in Game 2 Flash controled the game and won, in Game 3 it was sloppy from both, noone controlling since flash constantly made it possible to drop and do damage to Gumiho. Losing the final battle was a bit stupid
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was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
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On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ? The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
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On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ? The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.
Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
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On September 17 2015 01:26 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ? The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats. Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant. Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.
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On September 17 2015 01:30 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:26 RKC wrote:On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ? The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats. Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant. Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.
Going fast 3cc against Byul has nothing to do with metagame. It's just being stupid, Byul is the new Life. He will punish greed
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Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?
Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?
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oh didnt even know this was today. ByuL pretty much doing what was expected though
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On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!? Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!? Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
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On September 17 2015 01:57 lastride wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!? Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!? Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha
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On September 17 2015 01:35 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:30 10bulgares wrote:On September 17 2015 01:26 RKC wrote:On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ? The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats. Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant. Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science. Going fast 3cc against Byul has nothing to do with metagame. It's just being stupid, Byul is the new Life. He will punish greed
It was fast 5cc. In game it didn't feel like ByuL was punishing greed, since Gumiho was more the offensive player. But obviously the build choice didn't work for Gumiho. Maybe it was just stupid maybe it was really a midgamey metagamey thing that didn't work.
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On September 17 2015 01:46 Shellshock wrote: oh didnt even know this was today. ByuL pretty much doing what was expected though
passion
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On September 17 2015 02:08 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 01:57 lastride wrote:On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!? Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!? Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready. Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha Did you watch Gumiho today?
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God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now.
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On September 17 2015 03:05 Yorkie wrote: God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now.
I won't believe it until he shows up to the finals
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That pooling of resources into muta was beautiful :,) Gumiho went full tilt.
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On September 17 2015 03:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 03:05 Yorkie wrote: God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now. I won't believe it until he shows up to the finals ByuL has an awesome chance of proving himself this season. If he can ride some momentum with a S2SL victory, he could very well be unstoppable. I think that guy deserves it, such a hard working and humble player.
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Zerg continues to dominate Terran. Hopefully the mech crybaby stuff will settle down.
Terran 42% winrate vs Zerg in Proleague in 2015 and
Terran 47.7% winrate vs Zerg overall in August.
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BYULJWA Everyone's favorite Zerg god
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On September 17 2015 06:46 OtherWorld wrote: BYULJWA Everyone's favorite Zerg god Meh i kinda don't like him :/
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