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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 16 2015 15:29 GMT
#381
On September 16 2015 21:15 10bulgares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 21:11 Rollora wrote:
On September 16 2015 21:08 10bulgares wrote:
On September 16 2015 21:06 Rollora wrote:
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote:
What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/

tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3

Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3?

I expected it somehow. Gumihow is a guy who surprises with builds sometimes but not with game control. He is often times very sloppy, I wondered how he could advance over flash, but then again this was flash throwing the game(3) and a BO loss in game 1.

Precisely, what we saw in Gumiho's games against Flash was that he had a better "game control" than Flash.

aha? Did you see other games?
In Game 1 he made a game winning early attack (which I meant with openers/builds), in Game 2 Flash controled the game and won, in Game 3 it was sloppy from both, noone controlling since flash constantly made it possible to drop and do damage to Gumiho. Losing the final battle was a bit stupid
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 16 2015 15:49 GMT
#382
was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 16:02:05
September 16 2015 15:59 GMT
#383
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote:
was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?

The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general.
Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army.
In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 16 2015 16:26 GMT
#384
On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote:
was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?

The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general.
Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army.
In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.


Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.

Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
gg no re thx
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 16:30:58
September 16 2015 16:30 GMT
#385
On September 17 2015 01:26 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote:
was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?

The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general.
Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army.
In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.


Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.

Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran


I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18379 Posts
September 16 2015 16:35 GMT
#386
On September 17 2015 01:30 10bulgares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 01:26 RKC wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote:
was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?

The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general.
Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army.
In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.


Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.

Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran


I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.


Going fast 3cc against Byul has nothing to do with metagame. It's just being stupid, Byul is the new Life. He will punish greed
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
September 16 2015 16:46 GMT
#387
Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?

Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 16 2015 16:46 GMT
#388
oh didnt even know this was today. ByuL pretty much doing what was expected though
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-16 16:58:37
September 16 2015 16:57 GMT
#389
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?

Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?

Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL.
Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18379 Posts
September 16 2015 17:08 GMT
#390
On September 17 2015 01:57 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?

Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?

Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL.
Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.


Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
September 16 2015 17:36 GMT
#391
On September 17 2015 01:35 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 01:30 10bulgares wrote:
On September 17 2015 01:26 RKC wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:59 10bulgares wrote:
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote:
was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?

The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general.
Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army.
In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.


Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.

Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran


I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.


Going fast 3cc against Byul has nothing to do with metagame. It's just being stupid, Byul is the new Life. He will punish greed


It was fast 5cc.
In game it didn't feel like ByuL was punishing greed, since Gumiho was more the offensive player. But obviously the build choice didn't work for Gumiho. Maybe it was just stupid maybe it was really a midgamey metagamey thing that didn't work.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28469 Posts
September 16 2015 17:44 GMT
#392
On September 17 2015 01:46 Shellshock wrote:
oh didnt even know this was today. ByuL pretty much doing what was expected though

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I Protoss winner, could it be?
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
September 16 2015 18:00 GMT
#393
On September 17 2015 02:08 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 01:57 lastride wrote:
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?

Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?

Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL.
Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.


Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha

Did you watch Gumiho today?
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 16 2015 18:05 GMT
#394
God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 16 2015 18:15 GMT
#395
On September 17 2015 03:05 Yorkie wrote:
God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now.


I won't believe it until he shows up to the finals
BroskiDerpman
Profile Joined January 2015
58 Posts
September 16 2015 20:04 GMT
#396
That pooling of resources into muta was beautiful :,) Gumiho went full tilt.
READY TO ROLL OUT
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
September 16 2015 20:11 GMT
#397
On September 17 2015 03:15 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 03:05 Yorkie wrote:
God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now.


I won't believe it until he shows up to the finals

ByuL has an awesome chance of proving himself this season. If he can ride some momentum with a S2SL victory, he could very well be unstoppable. I think that guy deserves it, such a hard working and humble player.
BigLove
Profile Joined September 2015
37 Posts
September 16 2015 20:58 GMT
#398
Zerg continues to dominate Terran. Hopefully the mech crybaby stuff will settle down.

Terran 42% winrate vs Zerg in Proleague in 2015 and

Terran 47.7% winrate vs Zerg overall in August.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 16 2015 21:46 GMT
#399
BYULJWA
Everyone's favorite Zerg god
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 16 2015 21:53 GMT
#400
On September 17 2015 06:46 OtherWorld wrote:
BYULJWA
Everyone's favorite Zerg god

Meh i kinda don't like him :/
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