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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
-Zealously
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 13 2015 14:48 GMT
#621
On September 13 2015 23:46 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:44 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:36 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:33 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D


One, maybe, but I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat two players at Blizzcon

I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat 1 player at blizzcon


I don't personally believe he would beat anyone at Blizzcon, but finding a player on an off-day and stringing together a streak of well-executed cheeses - sure. Twice? Never.


I actually believe he may be able to take out 1-2 Code S players. It's just that his style will never take him far (early game micro and builds alone are not enough). He's good, but one-dimensional. If he was just another faceless Korean, he would probably attract as much hate as Myungsik.

I'm not hating against foreigner or even a Protoss (in fact, I love Protoss and admire players like Rain, Classic, Zest, herO and sOs - who are all solid players all-round). I just don't think Lilbow offers as much to Blizzcon as players like Dark, Fantasy, Rogue, etc.


I mean he did recently beat both Rain and Classic, so it's possible, but unlikely.


Who both then went on to win the tournaments. Losing to Lilbow is a blessing!
gg no re thx
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 13 2015 14:48 GMT
#622
On September 13 2015 23:48 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:47 travis wrote:
wait i missed it. how did lilbow win game 4

He didn't.


oh well then i missed game 3? how did he win that one lol
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 13 2015 14:48 GMT
#623
On September 13 2015 23:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:46 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
when was the wave invented?

and where, and more importantly, how? did it start with just 1 person who had the brilliant idea? you can't do a wave by yourself

wasn't that popularized during the sporting events that took place in Central/South America (Argentina 78, Mexico 86, Mexico olympics...) ?


it's called mexican wave for a reason

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#624
ok let's count the gates Lilbow will make
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#625
On September 13 2015 23:48 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:46 Vedeynevin wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:44 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:36 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:33 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D


One, maybe, but I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat two players at Blizzcon

I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat 1 player at blizzcon


I don't personally believe he would beat anyone at Blizzcon, but finding a player on an off-day and stringing together a streak of well-executed cheeses - sure. Twice? Never.


I actually believe he may be able to take out 1-2 Code S players. It's just that his style will never take him far (early game micro and builds alone are not enough). He's good, but one-dimensional. If he was just another faceless Korean, he would probably attract as much hate as Myungsik.

I'm not hating against foreigner or even a Protoss (in fact, I love Protoss and admire players like Rain, Classic, Zest, herO and sOs - who are all solid players all-round). I just don't think Lilbow offers as much to Blizzcon as players like Dark, Fantasy, Rogue, etc.


I mean he did recently beat both Rain and Classic, so it's possible, but unlikely.


Who both then went on to win the tournaments. Losing to Lilbow is a blessing!

Lilbow never faced Classic.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#626
On September 13 2015 23:47 duckk wrote:
Were the first 4 games good/skilled or 9pool/cannon rush type games?

One 7 pool where there was a lot of salt about a protoss going gatefirst winning
one blink all in on IF vs mass roach ling and hydra transtion
1 3 nex blink all in
1 3 nex blink all in dying to roach ling all in due to amazing micro and positioning from lilbow
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#627
fun fact: from Season 2 and Season 3, Lilbow played on Cactus Valley 4 times and has only lost 1 game to Jaedong in the Ro16 and that was very close
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
September 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#628
On September 13 2015 23:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ok let's count the gates Lilbow will make


1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, Go, Go HuK
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 13 2015 14:50 GMT
#629
On September 13 2015 23:48 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:46 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
when was the wave invented?

and where, and more importantly, how? did it start with just 1 person who had the brilliant idea? you can't do a wave by yourself

wasn't that popularized during the sporting events that took place in Central/South America (Argentina 78, Mexico 86, Mexico olympics...) ?


it's called mexican wave for a reason


no one calls it that in NA, it's just "the wave"
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 13 2015 14:50 GMT
#630
cute ling micro
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
September 13 2015 14:50 GMT
#631
On September 13 2015 23:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ok let's count the gates Lilbow will make


all of them
You're now breathing manually
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 13 2015 14:50 GMT
#632
On September 13 2015 23:46 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:44 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:36 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:33 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D


One, maybe, but I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat two players at Blizzcon

I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat 1 player at blizzcon


I don't personally believe he would beat anyone at Blizzcon, but finding a player on an off-day and stringing together a streak of well-executed cheeses - sure. Twice? Never.


I actually believe he may be able to take out 1-2 Code S players. It's just that his style will never take him far (early game micro and builds alone are not enough). He's good, but one-dimensional. If he was just another faceless Korean, he would probably attract as much hate as Myungsik.

I'm not hating against foreigner or even a Protoss (in fact, I love Protoss and admire players like Rain, Classic, Zest, herO and sOs - who are all solid players all-round). I just don't think Lilbow offers as much to Blizzcon as players like Dark, Fantasy, Rogue, etc.


I mean he did recently beat both Rain and Classic, so it's possible, but unlikely.


You're confusing Lilbow with Snute
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 13 2015 14:50 GMT
#633
On September 13 2015 23:50 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:48 Noonius wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:46 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
when was the wave invented?

and where, and more importantly, how? did it start with just 1 person who had the brilliant idea? you can't do a wave by yourself

wasn't that popularized during the sporting events that took place in Central/South America (Argentina 78, Mexico 86, Mexico olympics...) ?


it's called mexican wave for a reason


no one calls it that in NA, it's just "the wave"

same in France, it's just "ola"
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 13 2015 14:50 GMT
#634
On September 13 2015 23:48 Ej_ wrote:
(Z)Zanster 2:2 (P)Lilbow
game 5 on Cactus Valley

Zanster bottom right, Lilbow top right
pylon at lowground, 9scouts Zanster first
Zanster 15pools when he sees probe in his main
Lilbow nexus first, forge
Zanster hatch on nat
probe patroling Zanster's nat
Lilbow gets cannon and gate in wall

Zanster takes 3rd to the left of his nat, lings chase out probe, queen on the way
Lilbow double gas, normal FFE vs gasless, nothing gonna happen for next 5 minutes


drones drones drones
Lilbow sentry and stargate
double gas at 6min
drone drone drone etc etc
Lilbow takes 2 gases at nat now
8 slowlings get a surround on the scouting zealot of Lilbow
no ling dies, bonjwa control

7:30 RW and lingspeed, no lair
Lilbow oracle, +1, 3 gates
OL flies into nat to see stargate
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#635
On September 13 2015 23:50 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:46 Vedeynevin wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:44 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:36 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:33 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D


One, maybe, but I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat two players at Blizzcon

I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat 1 player at blizzcon


I don't personally believe he would beat anyone at Blizzcon, but finding a player on an off-day and stringing together a streak of well-executed cheeses - sure. Twice? Never.


I actually believe he may be able to take out 1-2 Code S players. It's just that his style will never take him far (early game micro and builds alone are not enough). He's good, but one-dimensional. If he was just another faceless Korean, he would probably attract as much hate as Myungsik.

I'm not hating against foreigner or even a Protoss (in fact, I love Protoss and admire players like Rain, Classic, Zest, herO and sOs - who are all solid players all-round). I just don't think Lilbow offers as much to Blizzcon as players like Dark, Fantasy, Rogue, etc.


I mean he did recently beat both Rain and Classic, so it's possible, but unlikely.


You're confusing Lilbow with Snute

And snute isn't even here after beating both champions. WCS > Korea confirmed.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#636
On September 13 2015 23:49 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:48 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:46 Vedeynevin wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:44 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:36 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:33 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D


One, maybe, but I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat two players at Blizzcon

I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat 1 player at blizzcon


I don't personally believe he would beat anyone at Blizzcon, but finding a player on an off-day and stringing together a streak of well-executed cheeses - sure. Twice? Never.


I actually believe he may be able to take out 1-2 Code S players. It's just that his style will never take him far (early game micro and builds alone are not enough). He's good, but one-dimensional. If he was just another faceless Korean, he would probably attract as much hate as Myungsik.

I'm not hating against foreigner or even a Protoss (in fact, I love Protoss and admire players like Rain, Classic, Zest, herO and sOs - who are all solid players all-round). I just don't think Lilbow offers as much to Blizzcon as players like Dark, Fantasy, Rogue, etc.


I mean he did recently beat both Rain and Classic, so it's possible, but unlikely.


Who both then went on to win the tournaments. Losing to Lilbow is a blessing!

Lilbow never faced Classic.


Rain lost to Lilbow but won Homestory.

Okay, maybe Classic lost to Snute but won IEM?

Got confused for a moment.

Losing to foreigners is a blessing!
gg no re thx
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#637
Ouch, Zanster missed that probe at the third, could have killed it
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#638
On September 13 2015 23:47 The_Templar wrote:
Is there any scenario where Lilbow wins this and Aocowns is content?

I do honestly believe Lilbow is the superior player and that the odds of him winning against forgg in the final are very realistic. This is enough for me to put away salt and hatred as long as the manner in which he wins is somewhat less retarded than against hydra.

I'm weak, I'm buying into the "FOREIGNER AT BLIZZCON HYYPE WEEEEEEOW SKILL!" shit
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
September 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#639
Is there a good reason for Lilbow to put down all the buildings in super easily accessible spots, or just a mistake?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#640
On September 13 2015 23:51 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:49 Boucot wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:48 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:46 Vedeynevin wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:44 RKC wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:36 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:34 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:33 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:31 Sakkreth wrote:
On September 13 2015 23:28 RKC wrote:
On second thoughts, I'd like to see Lilbow in Blizzcon being ripped apart by Life or Byul or Rogue.

(This coming from a Protoss fanboy).


And I wanna see salt levels when he beats one or two of them in Blizzcon :D


One, maybe, but I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat two players at Blizzcon

I don't see a universe where Lilbow would ever string together enough miracles to beat 1 player at blizzcon


I don't personally believe he would beat anyone at Blizzcon, but finding a player on an off-day and stringing together a streak of well-executed cheeses - sure. Twice? Never.


I actually believe he may be able to take out 1-2 Code S players. It's just that his style will never take him far (early game micro and builds alone are not enough). He's good, but one-dimensional. If he was just another faceless Korean, he would probably attract as much hate as Myungsik.

I'm not hating against foreigner or even a Protoss (in fact, I love Protoss and admire players like Rain, Classic, Zest, herO and sOs - who are all solid players all-round). I just don't think Lilbow offers as much to Blizzcon as players like Dark, Fantasy, Rogue, etc.


I mean he did recently beat both Rain and Classic, so it's possible, but unlikely.


Who both then went on to win the tournaments. Losing to Lilbow is a blessing!

Lilbow never faced Classic.


Rain lost to Lilbow but won Homestory.

Okay, maybe Classic lost to Snute but won IEM?

Got confused for a moment.

Losing to foreigners is a blessing!

losing to foreigners is such a shame you have to win the whole thing not to end up in Kespa jail
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