ByuL vs Zest Game 1 ByuL vs Zest Game 2 ByuL vs Zest Game 3 Dark vs Solar Game 1 Dark vs Solar Game 2 Dark vs Solar Game 3 Winners Match Game 1 Winners Match Game 2 Winners Match Game 3 Losers Match Game 1 Losers Match Game 2 Losers Match Game 3 Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★★★- Good game (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
31%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
15%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★- Good game (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
54%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
22%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
27%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
67%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Solar Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dark vs Solar Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
71%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Solar Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dark vs Solar Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
13%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★- Good game (3)
38%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Solar Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
100%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
88%
★★★- Good game (1)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
25%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (2)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
40%
★★★- Good game (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (6)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
47%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
13%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★★★- Good game (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
10%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
44%
★★★- Good game (1)
11%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
33%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
57%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
14%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (4)
31%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
31%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
38%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Dark, ByuL, Zest, and Solarin 0m 0s in GSL Code S Season 3 round of 16. Solar must win this match! Dark has the #3 Headband.ByuL has the #2 Headband. Dark is at 63.89% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.77% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 89.04%, or 36.9% if they lose. Zest is at 99.94% Blizzcon Chances, with a 49.36% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 99.88% if they lose. ByuL is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 42.9% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Solar is at 8.29% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.97% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 14.81%, or 0% if they lose.
This group is very important for Dark and Solar. Also if Zest wins here then he goes up to 100% Blizzcon Chances, although a loss still puts him at 99.88%.
Dark is currently at 63.89% Blizzcon Chanceswith 2800 WCS Points, and 23.42% AFK Chances. If he loses here then he goes down to 36.9%, but if he then gets 4th at Dreamhack then he goes up to 97.38% although he wasn't in the first batch of players announced for Dreamhack. An 8th place in GSL puts him at 76.96%, combined with a 16th at Dreamhack that'd be 97.04%. And then a 4th place in GSL puts him at 99.68%. If Solar or Gumiho wins GSL, then Dark falls below 33%. If Hyun wins Dreamhack then Dark falls down to 40.84%. If Dear, ForGG, Snute, Lilbow, or Jaedong wins their GSL/WCS then Dark falls below 50%.
Solar is at 8.29% with 1850 WCS Points. If he loses here then he falls to 0%, and even if he gets 4th place in GSL then that's still only 1.09%. 2nd in GSL puts him at 8.66%, 1st in GSL puts him at 99.99%. Solar is not yet confirmed to be going to Dreamhack Stockholm, but maybe he'll end up going, especially if he needs the WCS Points. If he gets 2nd place in GSL and even just 16th in Dreamhack, that boosts him up to 51.12%. 2nd in GSL with a 4th at Dreamhack puts him at 95.79%.
Dark, ByuL, Zest, and Solarin 0m 0s in GSL Code S Season 3 round of 16. Solar must win this match! Dark has the #3 Headband.ByuL has the #2 Headband. Dark is at 63.89% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.77% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 89.04%, or 36.9% if they lose. Zest is at 99.94% Blizzcon Chances, with a 49.36% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 99.88% if they lose. ByuL is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 42.9% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Solar is at 8.29% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.97% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 14.81%, or 0% if they lose.
PartinG, GuMiho, INnoVation, and Flashin 0m 0s in GSL Code S Season 3 round of 16. GuMiho must win this match! This is the 2nd place Group of Death! PartinG is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 58.37% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. INnoVation is at 99.99% Blizzcon Chances, with a 61.68% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 99.99% if they lose. GuMiho is at 4.55% Blizzcon Chances, with a 40.28% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 11.31%, or 0% if they lose. Flash is at 0.03% Blizzcon Chances, with a 39.67% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.08%, or 0% if they lose.
Dear, Solar, and GuMiho must win this tournament! Classic has a 14.82% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. INnoVation has a 14.65% chance to win ----going from 99.99% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they don't. Maru has a 13.86% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Rogue has a 9.87% chance to win ----going from 99.86% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.85% if they don't. Dear has a 8.06% chance to win ----going from 8.49% to 99.97% if they get 1st, or 0.48% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Solar has a 7.47% chance to win ----going from 8.29% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 0.89% if they don't. Dark has a 7.32% chance to win ----going from 63.89% to 100% if they get 1st, or 61.04% if they don't. PartinG has a 7.15% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Zest has a 6.41% chance to win ----going from 99.94% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.93% if they don't. ByuL has a 3.89% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. GuMiho has a 3.84% chance to win ----going from 4.55% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 0.74% if they don't. Flash has a 2.66% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 1.14% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★★★- Good game (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
31%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
At these positions you can kill Larva I found it better than killing drones(when there are spores). Zerg has the eco but still cannot produce anything, mwahahahahaha (insert evil laugh)
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★- Good game (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
54%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
22%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (3)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Zest Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
the problem was he didnt have any vision there. if you see the lings only when they are on your ramp, its too late to warp in. you have to make their distance longer by creating a simcity, maybe even around the 3rd to prevent this from happening.
still weird he didnt react to it after the first time. this loses you the game so fast
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
Yup, immortals are bad at going through hold position units But he can warp there a sentry and put there a forcefield and then warp in some units. I so much hate these games with speedlings in pros main
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
Yup, immortals are bad at going through hold position units But he can warp there a sentry and put there a forcefield and then warp in some units. I so much hate these games with speedlings in pros main
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
the problem was he didnt have any vision there. if you see the lings only when they are on your ramp, its too late to warp in. you have to make their distance longer by creating a simcity, maybe even around the 3rd to prevent this from happening.
still weird he didnt react to it after the first time. this loses you the game so fast
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
He failed to block it twice against DRG too.
You guys are right, i was just looking for a possible way to explain what happened. I don't know, maybe Zest thinks it costs the Zerg more than him to do it? Or maybe Zest is just bad on that part haha. Medicore and sloppy games today and a wonky game vs DRG as well. He may have prayed to Flash and traded some of his PvZ skill for PvT :p
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
Yup, immortals are bad at going through hold position units But he can warp there a sentry and put there a forcefield and then warp in some units. I so much hate these games with speedlings in pros main
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
the problem was he didnt have any vision there. if you see the lings only when they are on your ramp, its too late to warp in. you have to make their distance longer by creating a simcity, maybe even around the 3rd to prevent this from happening.
still weird he didnt react to it after the first time. this loses you the game so fast
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
He failed to block it twice against DRG too.
You guys are right, i was just looking for a possible way to explain what happened. I don't know, maybe Zest thinks it costs the Zerg more than him to do it? Or maybe Zest is just bad on that part haha. Medicore and sloppy games today and a wonky game vs DRG as well. He may have prayed to Flash and traded some of his PvZ skill for PvT :p
The merry go round continues, now TY is absorbing Zests skill.
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
Yup, immortals are bad at going through hold position units But he can warp there a sentry and put there a forcefield and then warp in some units. I so much hate these games with speedlings in pros main
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
the problem was he didnt have any vision there. if you see the lings only when they are on your ramp, its too late to warp in. you have to make their distance longer by creating a simcity, maybe even around the 3rd to prevent this from happening.
still weird he didnt react to it after the first time. this loses you the game so fast
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
He failed to block it twice against DRG too.
You guys are right, i was just looking for a possible way to explain what happened. I don't know, maybe Zest thinks it costs the Zerg more than him to do it? Or maybe Zest is just bad on that part haha. Medicore and sloppy games today and a wonky game vs DRG as well. He may have prayed to Flash and traded some of his PvZ skill for PvT :p
I know too well what happened. Immortals are such big pain in the ass because of the needed hold position unit We need immortal riding colossus!
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
Yup, immortals are bad at going through hold position units But he can warp there a sentry and put there a forcefield and then warp in some units. I so much hate these games with speedlings in pros main
On September 09 2015 19:18 graNite wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:13 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
the problem was he didnt have any vision there. if you see the lings only when they are on your ramp, its too late to warp in. you have to make their distance longer by creating a simcity, maybe even around the 3rd to prevent this from happening.
still weird he didnt react to it after the first time. this loses you the game so fast
On September 09 2015 19:17 Phredxor wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:13 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
He failed to block it twice against DRG too.
You guys are right, i was just looking for a possible way to explain what happened. I don't know, maybe Zest thinks it costs the Zerg more than him to do it? Or maybe Zest is just bad on that part haha. Medicore and sloppy games today and a wonky game vs DRG as well. He may have prayed to Flash and traded some of his PvZ skill for PvT :p
The merry go round continues, now TY is absorbing Zests skill.
Lmao that would be funny, though as we have seen, it always comes back to Zest in the end
Edit: Energy-Up is a good advice for ZvZ, specially when its RoachvsRoach
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
Yup, immortals are bad at going through hold position units But he can warp there a sentry and put there a forcefield and then warp in some units. I so much hate these games with speedlings in pros main
On September 09 2015 19:18 graNite wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:13 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
the problem was he didnt have any vision there. if you see the lings only when they are on your ramp, its too late to warp in. you have to make their distance longer by creating a simcity, maybe even around the 3rd to prevent this from happening.
still weird he didnt react to it after the first time. this loses you the game so fast
On September 09 2015 19:17 Phredxor wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:13 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 09 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: I'll just pretend that KT didnt allow Zest to practice for this and forced him to focus on PL. Because if he practiced and thats all he has then his PvZ has fallen a long way
That still doesn't explain why he has no block on the ramp? :-/
Maybe he didnt want to block immortals from leaving the base and had faith in his reactions to warp-in something before the lings get in. Which, as we have seen, didnt work at all.
He failed to block it twice against DRG too.
You guys are right, i was just looking for a possible way to explain what happened. I don't know, maybe Zest thinks it costs the Zerg more than him to do it? Or maybe Zest is just bad on that part haha. Medicore and sloppy games today and a wonky game vs DRG as well. He may have prayed to Flash and traded some of his PvZ skill for PvT :p
The merry go round continues, now TY is absorbing Zests skill.
Lmao that would be funny, though as we have seen, it always comes back to Zest in the end
Edit: Energy-Up is a good advice for ZvZ, specially when its RoachvsRoach
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On September 09 2015 19:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Cool ZvZ. Love that we're seeing a bit more diversity again in this MU.
ZvZ will be amazing in LOTV if it stays this way.
Queens, Infestors, Lings, Banelings, Roaches, Ravagers, Mutas, Lurkers, Vipers, Brood Lords, Ultralisks, literally everything has its place in this matchup in LOTV.
On September 09 2015 19:36 Ramiz1989 wrote: So didn't manage to watch a game 1 of Solar vs. Dark, what happened? I hear it was Roachless ZvZ?
Solar went mutas, Dark went 1/1 lings with infestors. They did a little slap-stick where Dark forgot he could multitask and Solar lost 40 drones to infestor harras and all-ins with mutas vs spore/queen/infestor
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Look, when the games aren't on, play all the commercials you want. But that's 3 commercials in a row in the beginning of the winner's match, a ZvZ, where 50% of the time the game is decided in the first 2 or 3 minutes.
I'm not trying to be that guy.... but yeah. It's pretty lame.
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On September 09 2015 20:16 J. Corsair wrote: Look, when the games aren't on, play all the commercials you want. But that's 3 commercials in a row in the beginning of the winner's match, a ZvZ, where 50% of the time the game is decided in the first 2 or 3 minutes.
I'm not trying to be that guy.... but yeah. It's pretty lame.
I got 4 and was about to refresh the page in case it was a bug.
On September 09 2015 20:13 Alucen-Will- wrote: Is it really possible to like starcraft and not kpop.
I expect more from TL forum users tbh
yes
SC2 is awesome
kpop is total shite
"I can't believe people can like something I dislike"
If you look at the comments it is totally opposite case.
"I can't believe people can dislike something that I like."
It's a 50/50 split really. The only thing we can say about this, is that music can't possibly please everyone. Everyone has its own tastes, and that's it.
On September 09 2015 20:13 Alucen-Will- wrote: Is it really possible to like starcraft and not kpop.
I expect more from TL forum users tbh
yes
SC2 is awesome
kpop is total shite
"I can't believe people can like something I dislike"
If you look at the comments it is totally opposite case.
"I can't believe people can dislike something that I like."
It's a 50/50 split really. The only thing we can say about this, is that music can't possibly please everyone. Everyone has its own tastes, and that's it.
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It annoys me how ByuL gets away with this gambling stuff. If the opponent is a bit prepared it's over! I guess he just have the talent of knowing when to do this sort of moves?
On September 09 2015 20:44 Silvana wrote: It annoys me how ByuL gets away with this gambling stuff. If the opponent is a bit prepared it's over! I guess he just have the talent of knowing when to do this sort of moves?
On September 09 2015 20:44 Silvana wrote: It annoys me how ByuL gets away with this gambling stuff. If the opponent is a bit prepared it's over! I guess he just have the talent of knowing when to do this sort of moves?
Works for Life :p
ByuL's more than gambles though, he also crushed Zest in a standard game earlier.
On September 09 2015 20:46 sharkie wrote: Byul is the undisputed zerg #1 currently, right? I don't know anyone that comes even close to his achievements in the past months
I would say so. soO looked like he was getting ready to take the throne with his Kespa Cup victory and dominant form for a little bit but that's about it. ByuL is tried and true.
On September 09 2015 20:44 Silvana wrote: It annoys me how ByuL gets away with this gambling stuff. If the opponent is a bit prepared it's over! I guess he just have the talent of knowing when to do this sort of moves?
it's all about mindgames my dear silvana
I didn't expect Solar to fall for these, I expected him to be more solid... Let's blame ZvZ's volatility
On September 09 2015 20:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: he also crushed Zest in a standard game earlier.
It hurts me to say this but the way Zest played that's not a very impressive feat.
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Well, Zest has bad economy and has a lot of Immortals that are useless against all these Lings and Brood Lords. At least Dark forced that but we will see.
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On September 09 2015 21:34 DarkLordOlli wrote: This game was a great example of why stargates are mandatory vs mutas
That's just how it works. Dunno why Zest delayed his Stargate for such a long time. He was ahead thx to the Hive snipe, but lost control of the game, because he tried to counter the Mutalisks with Storm.
On September 09 2015 21:34 DarkLordOlli wrote: This game was a great example of why stargates are mandatory vs mutas
Sadly It's just stupid. And then you have 12 phoenixes with range and Zerg switches to Ultras and your Phoenixes become corruptors
If your 12 Phoenixes managed to kill 20+ Mutalisks(because less than that they do jack shit against Cannons and mass Stalkers) then they have already done their job.
On September 09 2015 21:34 DarkLordOlli wrote: This game was a great example of why stargates are mandatory vs mutas
Sadly It's just stupid. And then you have 12 phoenixes with range and Zerg switches to Ultras and your Phoenixes become corruptors
If your 12 Phoenixes managed to kill 20+ Mutalisks(because less than that they do jack shit against Cannons and mass Stalkers) then they have already done their job.
It is just a sigh about their usefulness(actually you can go and kill about 20 drones or so, they are not that useless ) ____ Sick scouting!
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On September 09 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: That was a super interesting game. I didn't think the build Zest did was gonna work, but apparently he's smarter than me
On September 09 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: That was a super interesting game. I didn't think the build Zest did was gonna work, but apparently he's smarter than me
Who knew
If only you were so humble when watching Terran players
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On September 09 2015 22:35 -YoricK- wrote: Zest made a forge and two cannons while Solar took his nat and third and pumped drones nonstop. Not hard to see how he got back in the game.
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On September 09 2015 22:40 BlackCompany wrote: Now stop being such a thick-headed idiot, scout what the Zerg is doing and dont do your +2/blink bullshit by default
On September 09 2015 22:40 BlackCompany wrote: Now stop being such a thick-headed idiot, scout what the Zerg is doing and dont do your +2/blink bullshit by default
Calm down. Think about Flash returning to BW soon and leave Zest alone.
On September 09 2015 22:40 BlackCompany wrote: Now stop being such a thick-headed idiot, scout what the Zerg is doing and dont do your +2/blink bullshit by default
Calm down. Think about Flash returning to BW soon and leave Zest alone.
On September 09 2015 22:40 BlackCompany wrote: Now stop being such a thick-headed idiot, scout what the Zerg is doing and dont do your +2/blink bullshit by default
no, do +2 blink and just go and kill him
That would also work as long as he doesnt offensive blink again
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On September 09 2015 22:53 DarkLordOlli wrote: I think Zest actually checked the lair for drop research with that oracle. I've never seen anyone do that
On September 09 2015 22:54 Tien Vu wrote: FUCK YEAH! KT FOREVER! so glad 2 of the 3 zergs in this group were eliminated.
Agree with the last part for sure. Glad the protoss got through, match-up diversity is important to me personally as a viewer. Although I'm really tired of the ZvP match-up in general, would love to see a Terran in the grand finals, even if they don't win it all (although that would be great). Just for entertainment's sake.
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