★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (4)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
33%
★★★- Good game (2)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
17%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★★★- Good game (2)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
29%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (6)
86%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
25%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★- Good game (5)
42%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
17%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (7)
70%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
30%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
44%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
39%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
69%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
15%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (4)
44%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
44%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
43%
★★★- Good game (3)
43%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (7)
78%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★- Good game (3)
30%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
60%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (4)
57%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★- Good game (3)
38%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
38%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (6)
86%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I actually think that Nerchio has a good chance at taking out MMA. Since he is on the same team as MMA he knows very well how MMA plays and Artur always relied on outsmarting his oponent by knowing the strategy of his oponents and countering them very well. For example when he figured out how MC plays after few loses to him he started reking MC all the time in Wings of liberty. In my opinion his chances are like 40/60
Fantasy sadly always messes up in the last game, his only chance is winning it 3-0 or 3-1
More heart than head sadly, I think Patience is gonna beat him again, but I want to believe. And FanTaSy desperately needs those points to be at Blizzcon.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 08 2015 22:24 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Lambo never had it. Watch soO vs Ragnarok on Expedition Lost. It's a good tell that soO literally can't lose in this match up.
You should specifiy you mean from leifeng not the one from proleague where he just 8 pooled him Btw I think the vaani one vs ragnarok was much more ridiculous
How to nydus: 1. Spawn nydus worm under soO's overlord. 2. Wait for it to get killed. 3. Spawn another nydus worm right next to the first spot. 4. Wait for it to get killed. 5. ??? 6. Profit!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
33%
★★★- Good game (2)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
17%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 08 2015 22:29 virpi wrote: How to nydus: 1. Spawn nydus worm under soO's overlord. 2. Wait for it to get killed. 3. Spawn another nydus worm right next to the first spot. 4. Wait for it to get killed. 5. ??? 6. Profit!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★★★- Good game (2)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
29%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★★★- Good game (2)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
29%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend soO vs Lambo Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
He is American. Let them believe in their broodlord bullshit...
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
He is American. Let them believe in their broodlord bullshit...
Oh right I didn't notice sorry for wasting your time.
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
Sure.
Of the 79 ladder games soO lost this season, 40 were due to duckk beating him with this build
On August 08 2015 22:54 Ej_ wrote: it's so hot today, fuck u summer
where you at? it's 38°C here in Vienna. only reason i'm watching this is cause it's TOO hot even to go swimming lol
36, I'm watching Starcraft naked today
ok, but you haven't told me where
i'm wearing boxers cause it's really easy to look into my room when you walk by on the street outside and i don't wanna make anyone jealous or have girls harass me.
On August 08 2015 22:54 Ej_ wrote: it's so hot today, fuck u summer
where you at? it's 38°C here in Vienna. only reason i'm watching this is cause it's TOO hot even to go swimming lol
36, I'm watching Starcraft naked today
ok, but you haven't told me where
i'm wearing boxers cause it's really easy to look into my room when you walk by on the street outside and i don't wanna make anyone jealous or have girls harass me.
On August 08 2015 22:54 Ej_ wrote: it's so hot today, fuck u summer
where you at? it's 38°C here in Vienna. only reason i'm watching this is cause it's TOO hot even to go swimming lol
36, I'm watching Starcraft naked today
ok, but you haven't told me where
i'm wearing boxers cause it's really easy to look into my room when you walk by on the street outside and i don't wanna make anyone jealous or have girls harass me.
On August 08 2015 22:54 Ej_ wrote: it's so hot today, fuck u summer
where you at? it's 38°C here in Vienna. only reason i'm watching this is cause it's TOO hot even to go swimming lol
36, I'm watching Starcraft naked today
ok, but you haven't told me where
i'm wearing boxers cause it's really easy to look into my room when you walk by on the street outside and i don't wanna make anyone jealous or have girls harass me.
On August 08 2015 22:54 Ej_ wrote: it's so hot today, fuck u summer
where you at? it's 38°C here in Vienna. only reason i'm watching this is cause it's TOO hot even to go swimming lol
36, I'm watching Starcraft naked today
ok, but you haven't told me where
i'm wearing boxers cause it's really easy to look into my room when you walk by on the street outside and i don't wanna make anyone jealous or have girls harass me.
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
Sure.
Of the 79 ladder games soO lost this season, 40 were due to duckk beating him with this build
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
Sure.
Of the 79 ladder games soO lost this season, 40 were due to duckk beating him with this build
On August 08 2015 22:44 duckk wrote: lambo had the right idea but did the build completely wrong. You go broodlords and not ultras and its a free win even if you get your mutas fungaled like he did....
No it's not lol you just can't walk across the map fast and the other zerg can get hive+ spire tech too. Counter attacks imba.
I've had it work vs soo multiple times. 1) you skip the evos that lambo got. 2) you cant counter attack because you get 30+ muta with ling bane while teching to broodlords.
The first fight will be a 170 roach hydra infestor vs a muta ling bane with greater spire finishing or with first 5 broodlords out. After that if they go spire they are down either 1-1 upgrades or 2-0 and it is an easy win.
The key to making it work is speed overseer to deny creep and good muta usage while building spines at your third and fourth for burrow/counter attacks.
Sure.
Of the 79 ladder games soO lost this season, 40 were due to duckk beating him with this build
That's Dark's acc tho
dukk/Dark isn't a phonetical coincidence
dukk Beat himself ?!? Or is dukk secretly Dark and he beat soO on ladder gj Dark I guess.
On August 08 2015 23:13 Ej_ wrote: they need more Terran casters
true
Not their fault if Nathanias decided to waste his time with a girl... Which man in his right mind wants to be with a girl when he can cast/play Starcraft ???
On August 08 2015 23:13 Ej_ wrote: they need more Terran casters
true
Not their fault if Nathanias decided to waste his time with a girl... Which man in his right mind wants to be with a girl when he can cast/play Starcraft ???
On August 08 2015 23:13 Ej_ wrote: they need more Terran casters
true
Not their fault if Nathanias decided to waste his time with a girl... Which man in his right mind wants to be with a girl when he can cast/play Starcraft ???
On August 08 2015 23:13 Ej_ wrote: they need more Terran casters
true
Not their fault if Nathanias decided to waste his time with a girl... Which man in his right mind wants to be with a girl when he can cast/play Starcraft ???
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (6)
86%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 08 2015 23:24 Poopfeast 024 wrote: people forget fantasy massacred rain like this multiple times not so long ago. his tvp is quite similar to maru's and very good.
Funny quote from twitch chat: The most impressive thing about this game was the skill involved in dropping Mules. Too bad they're getting rid of rid of such skillful gameplay.
On August 08 2015 23:13 Ej_ wrote: they need more Terran casters
true
Not their fault if Nathanias decided to waste his time with a girl... Which man in his right mind wants to be with a girl when he can cast/play Starcraft ???
On August 08 2015 23:26 mishimaBeef wrote: Funny quote from twitch chat: The most impressive thing about this game was the skill involved in dropping Mules. Too bad they're getting rid of rid of such skillful gameplay.
On August 08 2015 23:13 Ej_ wrote: they need more Terran casters
true
Not their fault if Nathanias decided to waste his time with a girl... Which man in his right mind wants to be with a girl when he can cast/play Starcraft ???
On August 08 2015 23:26 mishimaBeef wrote: Funny quote from twitch chat: The most impressive thing about this game was the skill involved in dropping Mules. Too bad they're getting rid of rid of such skillful gameplay.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★- Good game (5)
42%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
17%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★- Good game (5)
42%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
17%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
As a terran, Fantasy irritates me so much. Always so stubborn with his drops ! Making mass MMM and nothing else. When you don't have the micro and multitask of Maru, just don't do it !
On August 08 2015 23:47 djraphi23 wrote: As a terran, Fantasy irritates me so much. Always so stubborn with his drops ! Making mass MMM and nothing else. When you don't have the micro and multitask of Maru, just don't do it !
funny that you say this because he is probably the only terran around that plays this style with decent success (not as well as maru obviously). he even managed to 4-0 rain with this style 2-3 months ago.
his micro is not as good as maru's but his army movement is usually pretty good. but if he loses his army supply advantage by losing full medivacs it has a 100% fail rate, as fantasy has shown
On August 08 2015 23:47 djraphi23 wrote: As a terran, Fantasy irritates me so much. Always so stubborn with his drops ! Making mass MMM and nothing else. When you don't have the micro and multitask of Maru, just don't do it !
He's not that much worse. The problem with fantasy is that he's stubborn. If Maru notices that his drops get constantly intercepted, he'll stop and kill obs and overlords that are spotting him. Fantasy drops anyway. I remember in Dark vs Fantasy game 1 in Kespa cup, fantasy kept dropping repeatedly. He would fly past 3 or even 4 overlords overlords right into corruptors. He the number of medivacs full of units he lost without doing any damage reached into double digits that game. Despite this, not only did he not stop dropping, he didn't even bother to clear out the overlords that kept spotting his drops literally the moment they left his base.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (7)
70%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
30%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 08 2015 23:47 djraphi23 wrote: As a terran, Fantasy irritates me so much. Always so stubborn with his drops ! Making mass MMM and nothing else. When you don't have the micro and multitask of Maru, just don't do it !
He's not that much worse. The problem with fantasy is that he's stubborn. If Maru notices that his drops get constantly intercepted, he'll stop and kill obs and overlords that are spotting him. Fantasy drops anyway. I remember in Dark vs Fantasy game 1 in Kespa cup, fantasy kept dropping repeatedly. He would fly past 3 or even 4 overlords overlords right into corruptors. He the number of medivacs full of units he lost without doing any damage reached into double digits that game. Despite this, not only did he not stop dropping, he didn't even bother to clear out the overlords that kept spotting his drops literally the moment they left his base.
"If Maru notices that his drops get constantly intercepted, "
he'll just continue doing them and then manner mule you three times with two manner CCs while you cry
On August 08 2015 23:47 djraphi23 wrote: As a terran, Fantasy irritates me so much. Always so stubborn with his drops ! Making mass MMM and nothing else. When you don't have the micro and multitask of Maru, just don't do it !
He's not that much worse. The problem with fantasy is that he's stubborn. If Maru notices that his drops get constantly intercepted, he'll stop and kill obs and overlords that are spotting him. Fantasy drops anyway. I remember in Dark vs Fantasy game 1 in Kespa cup, fantasy kept dropping repeatedly. He would fly past 3 or even 4 overlords overlords right into corruptors. He the number of medivacs full of units he lost without doing any damage reached into double digits that game. Despite this, not only did he not stop dropping, he didn't even bother to clear out the overlords that kept spotting his drops literally the moment they left his base.
"If Maru notices that his drops get constantly intercepted, "
he'll just continue doing them and then manner mule you three times with two manner CCs while you cry
Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
LR has been pretty slow for IEM - but we are "only" 6 games in, so...
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
LR has been pretty slow for IEM - but we are "only" 6 games in, so...
I think that people are also exhausted from all the other threads that are up right now.
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
LR has been pretty slow for IEM - but we are "only" 6 games in, so...
people want to be fully rested for The God playing
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
LR has been pretty slow for IEM - but we are "only" 6 games in, so...
people want to be fully rested for The God playing
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
TI5 also ends a lot later, so some people I'm sure are still trying to wake up.
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
Well it drained my passion a lot at least, i skipped every early series this IEM pretty much
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
TI5 also ends a lot later, so some people I'm sure are still trying to wake up.
Hm yeah maybe, people who sleep like 10 hours or something :D
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
Well it drained my passion a lot at least, i skipped every early series this IEM pretty much
If anything can drain passion, you obviously don't have any anyway.
On August 09 2015 00:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
Well it drained my passion a lot at least, i skipped every early series this IEM pretty much
If anything can drain passion, you obviously don't have any anyway.
Nah it just gets transfered to my passion for sleeping. Law of conservation of passion applies
On August 09 2015 00:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
Well it drained my passion a lot at least, i skipped every early series this IEM pretty much
If anything can drain passion, you obviously don't have any anyway.
Nah it just gets transfered to my passion for sleeping. Law of conservation of passion applies
So when casters lose passion, they just can't find it, but we know it still exists then?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
44%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
39%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend FanTaSy vs Patience Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Biggest Winners FanTaSy went up by 14.42%, going from 67.78% to 82.2% sOs went up by 8.8%, going from 23.47% to 32.27% HyuN went up by 6.2%, going from 27.01% to 33.21% MyuNgSiK went up by 5.26%, going from 3.16% to 8.42% soO went up by 2.48%, going from 14.51% to 16.99% Bbyong went up by 1.8%, going from 4.2% to 5.99% INnoVation went up by 1.52%, going from 94.03% to 95.55%
Biggest Losers Dear went down by 12.84%, going from 16.95% to 4.11% Lilbow went down by 5.22%, going from 19.02% to 13.8% Rogue went down by 3.94%, going from 67.69% to 63.76% Dark went down by 3.92%, going from 64.77% to 60.84% Solar went down by 2.15%, going from 12.14% to 9.99% Stats went down by 2.07%, going from 7.34% to 5.27% TY went down by 1.88%, going from 10.16% to 8.27% + Show Spoiler [More Losers] +
GuMiho went down by 1.37%, going from 5.87% to 4.5% Curious went down by 1.02%, going from 10.12% to 9.1% MaNa went down by 0.92%, going from 1.32% to 0.4% Jaedong went down by 0.83%, going from 10.18% to 9.35% Bomber went down by 0.67%, going from 0.68% to 0.01% Snute went down by 0.66%, going from 7.83% to 7.17% Bunny went down by 0.5%, going from 1.32% to 0.83% ForGG went down by 0.32%, going from 15.94% to 15.62% MarineLorD went down by 0.28%, going from 4.14% to 3.86% Harstem went down by 0.25%, going from 0.99% to 0.75% uThermal went down by 0.23%, going from 0.84% to 0.61% Petraeus went down by 0.21%, going from 1.22% to 1.01% ShoWTimE went down by 0.18%, going from 2.39% to 2.21% Soulkey went down by 0.14%, going from 0.31% to 0.16% ByuL went down by 0.12%, going from 99.46% to 99.34% TRUE went down by 0.12%, going from 0.26% to 0.14% Flash went down by 0.12%, going from 0.37% to 0.24% viOLet went down by 0.11%, going from 0.57% to 0.45%
Chances of 1+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 39.12% down to 31.94% Chances of 2+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 2.68% down to 1.2%
soO vs Lamboin in IEM Gamescom quarterfinals. soO has the #2 Headband. soO is at 16.99% Blizzcon Chances, with a 87.97% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 17.8%, or 11.06% if they lose. Lambo is at 0% Blizzcon Chances, with a 12.03% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0%, or 0% if they lose.
FanTaSy vs Patiencein in IEM Gamescom quarterfinals. FanTaSy is at 82.2% Blizzcon Chances, with a 59.51% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 89.33%, or 71.73% if they lose. Patience is at 0.03% Blizzcon Chances, with a 40.49% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.05%, or 0.01% if they lose.
MMA vs Nerchioin in IEM Gamescom quarterfinals. MMA is at 0.89% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.03% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 1.17%, or 0.67% if they lose. Nerchio is at 0.01% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.97% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.01%, or 0.01% if they lose.
ForGG vs INnoVationin in IEM Gamescom quarterfinals. ForGG is at 15.62% Blizzcon Chances, with a 46.08% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 18.96%, or 12.76% if they lose. INnoVation is at 95.55% Blizzcon Chances, with a 53.92% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 98.14%, or 92.51% if they lose.
soO has a 34.29% chance to win ----going from 16.99% to 23.68% if they get 1st, or 13.49% if they don't. INnoVation has a 20.45% chance to win ----going from 95.55% to 99.8% if they get 1st, or 94.46% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 14.72% chance to win ----going from 82.2% to 98.82% if they get 1st, or 79.34% if they don't. ForGG has a 11.37% chance to win ----going from 15.62% to 26.78% if they get 1st, or 14.19% if they don't. Nerchio has a 7.67% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.01% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. MMA has a 5.51% chance to win ----going from 0.89% to 2.67% if they get 1st, or 0.79% if they don't. Patience has a 5.21% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 0.22% if they get 1st, or 0.02% if they don't. Lambo has a 0.78% chance to win ----going from 0% to 0% if they get 1st, or 0% if they don't.
Branch #3091 -If Innovation loses in GSL and SSL (32nd place in GSL and 8th place in SSL), then he goes down to 79.98% -If Innovation loses in GSL and SSL and gets 8th place in IEM, he goes to 67.8% -If Innovation loses in GSL and SSL and gets 4th place in IEM, he goes to 81.85% -If Innovation loses in GSL and SSL and gets 2nd place in IEM, he goes to 90.99% -If Innovation loses in GSL and SSL and gets 1st place in IEM, he goes up to 98.92%
Branch #3127 -If Fantasy gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom, then he goes up to 83.5% -If Fantasy gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and loses his GSL ro32 group, he goes to 67.54% -If Fantasy gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and wins his GSL ro32 group, he goes up to 95.07% -If Fantasy gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and gets 16th place in GSL, he goes up to 90.72% -If Fantasy gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and gets 8th place in GSL, he goes up to 98.84% -If Fantasy gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and 8th in Dreamhack Stockholm, he goes up to 96.31%
Branch #3131 -If Fantasy loses in GSL, then he goes down to 66.01% -If Fantasy loses in GSL and gets 8th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 47.29% -If Fantasy loses in GSL and gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes to 83.93% -If Fantasy loses in GSL and gets 1st in IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 97.32% -If Fantasy loses in GSL and gets 8th in Dreamhack Stockholm, he goes up to 89.99%
Branch #3128 -If soO gets 2nd place in IEM Gamescom, then he goes down to 15.86% -If soO gets 2nd place in IEM Gamescom and wins his GSL ro32 group, he goes up to 24.29% -If soO gets 2nd place in IEM Gamescom and 2nd place in GSL, he goes up to 71.87% -If soO gets 2nd place in IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd place in Dreamhack Stockholm, he goes up to 33.04% -If soO gets 2nd place in IEM Gamescom and gets 4th place in GSL, he goes up to 19.12%
Branch #3129 -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom, then he goes down to 15.19% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and wins his WCS ro32 group, he goes up to 23.27% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and loses his WCS ro32 group, he goes down to 0.34% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and 4th in WCS, he goes down to 12.25% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in WCS, he goes up to 58.09% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and 1st in WCS, he goes up to 99.99% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in Dreamhack Stockholm, he goes up to 30.85% -If ForGG gets 4th place in IEM Gamescom and 1st in Dreamhack Stockholm, he goes up to 46.98%
On August 09 2015 00:30 BlackCompany wrote: I'm so happy about the fake drop, it's so underused. Can get so much army out of position and it just costs you 2-4 medivacs
It doesn't have to even cost you medicacs since you can save them a lot of the time
On August 09 2015 00:30 BlackCompany wrote: I'm so happy about the fake drop, it's so underused. Can get so much army out of position and it just costs you 2-4 medivacs
It doesn't have to even cost you medicacs since you can save them a lot of the time
Yeah true, by cost i meant you won't have them in the fight vs the rest of the army healing
On August 09 2015 00:33 SmoKim wrote: So nice to see Fantasy still doing good most of the old champions kinda falls off the map, but he keeps on fighting!
Now onto the heartbreak match. MMA vs Nerchio
I guess Team Acer wins no matter what
Don't worry, Nerchio will swiftly end this nerd's tournament run.
On August 09 2015 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
Well it drained my passion a lot at least, i skipped every early series this IEM pretty much
If anything can drain passion, you obviously don't have any anyway.
Nah it just gets transfered to my passion for sleeping. Law of conservation of passion applies
So when casters lose passion, they just can't find it, but we know it still exists then?
I don't know, casters operate on a higher plain and I don't have a PhD in passionscience yet
On August 09 2015 00:33 SmoKim wrote: So nice to see Fantasy still doing good most of the old champions kinda falls off the map, but he keeps on fighting!
On August 09 2015 00:33 SmoKim wrote: So nice to see Fantasy still doing good most of the old champions kinda falls off the map, but he keeps on fighting!
On August 09 2015 00:33 SmoKim wrote: So nice to see Fantasy still doing good most of the old champions kinda falls off the map, but he keeps on fighting!
On August 09 2015 00:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:22 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 09 2015 00:13 Glorfindel! wrote: Ive spent the last week in Azores, on the train home now from the Airport and noticing only 11 pages halfway into Q2? Has this IEM not been good? Or just low intrest overall?
Well it's new topic every day
Also competition with The International
Hardly, TI5 starts a lot later.
Well it drained my passion a lot at least, i skipped every early series this IEM pretty much
If anything can drain passion, you obviously don't have any anyway.
Nah it just gets transfered to my passion for sleeping. Law of conservation of passion applies
So when casters lose passion, they just can't find it, but we know it still exists then?
I don't know, casters operate on a higher plain and I don't have a PhD in passionscience yet
Apparently not. I thought that when you broke 10k posts that you'd get one. Good to hear that I'm not the only one who's still on his Master's of Passionscience.
On August 09 2015 00:49 DJHelium wrote: Only caught that last game, but Fantasy's play reminded me of Mvp in his prime. Hope he wins this tournament!
Well then he has no chance, Mvp's prime was a while ago, hopefuly Fantasy plays better than that
Obviously talking his playstyle and strategy, not his mechanics :p The hellion counter-attack (I think Mvp did that g1 vs Squirtle?) and the 4 medivac fakeout.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 01:27 BlackCompany wrote: Would be cool if MMA flew the lifted main orbital to the natural, nerchio thinks its the 4th already and GGs
I think Nerchio would simply think it's the normally timed 3rd just a bit ambitious in this case #shatteredfancfiction
On August 09 2015 01:31 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: 'the roach hydra is crashing through this army' literally see roach corpse fly all over the place lol
I'm convinced casters know about as much about casting mech as zerg do about playing against it
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
69%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
15%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 01:32 Big J wrote: Mech solved. Just upgrade drops, easypeasy!
Or just flank Or attack the base that doesn't have the entire mech army sittign in it.
You mean.. zerg doesn't have too attack straight into a sieged army? : O
Someone tell duckk about this new strategy already
Original Message From duckk: You know nothing about this game. If you want to play me at 50% handicap and get embarassed let me know. You are biased and unskilled. Please do not comment on what you do not know little gold leaguer, thank you.
Original Message From duckk: You know nothing about this game. If you want to play me at 50% handicap and get embarassed let me know. You are biased and unskilled. Please do not comment on what you do not know little gold leaguer, thank you.
This is what he pm'd me... LOOOOOL
This sounds like a time to pm back with the navy seals copy pasta
Original Message From duckk: You know nothing about this game. If you want to play me at 50% handicap and get embarassed let me know. You are biased and unskilled. Please do not comment on what you do not know little gold leaguer, thank you.
Original Message From duckk: You know nothing about this game. If you want to play me at 50% handicap and get embarassed let me know. You are biased and unskilled. Please do not comment on what you do not know little gold leaguer, thank you.
On August 09 2015 01:32 Big J wrote: Mech solved. Just upgrade drops, easypeasy!
Or just flank Or attack the base that doesn't have the entire mech army sittign in it.
You mean.. zerg doesn't have too attack straight into a sieged army? : O
Someone tell duckk about this new strategy already
Original Message From duckk: You know nothing about this game. If you want to play me at 50% handicap and get embarassed let me know. You are biased and unskilled. Please do not comment on what you do not know little gold leaguer, thank you.
This is what he pm'd me... LOOOOOL
Really cool guy it seems!
Nice guys don't get to brag about beating pro players on ladder.
Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
You can bet 10k on your dick size but you can't find a replay?
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
I'm guessing those 10k are the minerals you have by five minutes into the game?
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
I'm guessing those 10k are the minerals you have by five minutes into the game?
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
I thought I was special when I received not one but two PMs filled with insults and calling me out by duckk. Seems like I am just one of his many online interests.
On August 09 2015 01:43 Heartland wrote: I thought I was special when I received not one but two PMs filled with insults and calling me out by duckk. Seems like I am just one of his many online interests.
All I get is a certain KT fan complaing about trash talk
On August 09 2015 01:43 Heartland wrote: I thought I was special when I received not one but two PMs filled with insults and calling me out by duckk. Seems like I am just one of his many online interests.
All I get is a certain KT fan complaing about trash talk
On August 09 2015 01:43 Heartland wrote: I thought I was special when I received not one but two PMs filled with insults and calling me out by duckk. Seems like I am just one of his many online interests.
All I get is a certain KT fan complaing about trash talk
lmao that guy cracks me up.
I hope you mean me and not the "Life got caught off guard by the mech build bbyong has been using for 20 years guy"
On August 09 2015 01:39 duckk wrote: Well I figured it was better than posting it here, heartland and deathstar talk a lot here but get scared and dont say shit when asked to back it up in a 1v1. I will even offer a 1v2 heartland and deathstar vs me. Bo3 I will put 10k of my own money on the series.
On August 09 2015 01:43 Heartland wrote: I thought I was special when I received not one but two PMs filled with insults and calling me out by duckk. Seems like I am just one of his many online interests.
All I get is a certain KT fan complaing about trash talk
lmao that guy cracks me up.
I hope you mean me and not the "Life got caught off guard by the mech build bbyong has been using for 20 years guy"
The KT guy that cries every other thread cracks me up.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 01:43 Heartland wrote: I thought I was special when I received not one but two PMs filled with insults and calling me out by duckk. Seems like I am just one of his many online interests.
All I get is a certain KT fan complaing about trash talk
lmao that guy cracks me up.
I hope you mean me and not the "Life got caught off guard by the mech build bbyong has been using for 20 years guy"
The KT guy that cries every other thread cracks me up.
On August 09 2015 01:46 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio vs MMA looks like duckk vs soO
That's how the game would look yes.
sadly I have a winning record vs soo.
Sadly you never share the replay, same thing for your """"matches""" against Life.
Publicly sharing replays is a great way to never practice with people again...
Yeah the only reason Life is slumping is because i beat the shit out of him in practice games. Sadly i cant share the replays. But i am sure you understand
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (4)
44%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
44%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
43%
★★★- Good game (3)
43%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Nerchio vs MMA Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
I think MMA beats his semis opponent in early game.
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
Are teamkills supposed to be great? Most of the time we can't see the mindgames and someone just unceremoniously dies for no obvious reasons.
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
You just hit injects harder, duh. Won't they both mech?
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
Are teamkills supposed to be great? Most of the time we can't see the mindgames and someone just unceremoniously dies for no obvious reasons.
Nerchio vs MMA isn't a teamkill becaus they don't practice together. MMA stays in Korea and practices on SBENU, Nerchio doesn't even play HotS. Patience vs Fantasy was a trainwreckich display of a teamkill.
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
Are teamkills supposed to be great? Most of the time we can't see the mindgames and someone just unceremoniously dies for no obvious reasons.
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
Are teamkills supposed to be great? Most of the time we can't see the mindgames and someone just unceremoniously dies for no obvious reasons.
Nerchio vs MMA isn't a teamkill becaus they don't practice together. MMA stays in Korea and practices on SBENU, Nerchio doesn't even play HotS. Patience vs Fantasy was a trainwreckich display of a teamkill.
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
You just hit injects harder, duh. Won't they both mech?
I predict Innovation goes greedy mech 3 base and MMA drops his whole army in innovations main and then he clears it up but has no production and they both float their buildings and build vikings with mule mining money
On August 09 2015 02:04 Ej_ wrote: Nerchio got crushed in macro, mechanics still not there.
Nah, if MMA played mech he would have lost, bio is just so strong. There's nothing you can do as a zerg. Hit injects? Nah, they make marines. Make drones? Good luck vs banshees ;___;
On a serious note, will Innovation meet MMA in the big mech vs bio match of the century with wierd ex-teamkill mindgames?? It will be so great
Are teamkills supposed to be great? Most of the time we can't see the mindgames and someone just unceremoniously dies for no obvious reasons.
Nerchio vs MMA isn't a teamkill becaus they don't practice together. MMA stays in Korea and practices on SBENU, Nerchio doesn't even play HotS. Patience vs Fantasy was a trainwreckich display of a teamkill.
couldnt watch it, how was it
A lot of cheese, a lot of multitasking, a lot of medivacs dying for no reason.
If the games last more than 10 minutes -> Innovation wins Less forGG.
ForGG does not have the mechanics to stand against innovation, but what he does have is a better insight than him in TvT, he knows when to make the kill and he has a better army movement when it comes to small skirmish.
Someone called when I was listenign to the gamescon stream. David Kim was talking about automated tournaments. You can do an 8 player one over an hour-2 hours or so, and a longer one with group stages. Then the phone rang. What did he say afterwards, anyone know?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (7)
78%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
22%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
this reminds me of a ladder game where the bio player attacked me and I wanted to siege my tanks but I accidentally clicked on my hellbats instead of my tanks and they all transformed into hellions...
I'm not sure whats impressing me more. The fact that bogus literally did the only thing that could have possibly lost him this game or that he managed to hold.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★- Good game (3)
30%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
60%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
He might have been able to sneak a third too.
He already had it.
Wasn't he just landing it when he tried to break the contain?
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
He might have been able to sneak a third too.
He already had it.
Wasn't he just landing it when he tried to break the contain?
Huh? I'm talking when he sacked all his hellions into the nat and main of ForGG.
On August 09 2015 03:00 GumBa wrote: It wouldn't be an INno series without a massive throw mixed in xP
im still crying from the "fly medivacs into mutalisks on daybreak" moment
Bogus is the only player that made me lose my voice twice. When he flew his medivac into mutas and just now when he unseiged. Both times I yelled, "why the fuck would you do that?!". The only other player to do that was when Flash salvaged.
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
He might have been able to sneak a third too.
He already had it.
Wasn't he just landing it when he tried to break the contain?
Huh? I'm talking when he sacked all his hellions into the nat and main of ForGG.
On August 09 2015 03:00 GumBa wrote: It wouldn't be an INno series without a massive throw mixed in xP
im still crying from the "fly medivacs into mutalisks on daybreak" moment
Bogus is the only player that made me lose my voice twice. When he flew his medivac into mutas and just now when he unseiged. Both times I yelled, "why the fuck would you do that?!". The only other player to do that was when Flash salvaged.
I actually think the medivacs suicide was the one biggest throw of all of Starcraft ever.
On August 09 2015 03:02 GumBa wrote: I also think INno shouldn't have sacked all his hellions. All those hellbat and no random unsiege and I dont think ForGG can break him and he was a base up.
He might have been able to sneak a third too.
He already had it.
Wasn't he just landing it when he tried to break the contain?
Huh? I'm talking when he sacked all his hellions into the nat and main of ForGG.
I tuned in after that.
Ah well INno basically had the game won imo then a massive wtf moment happened.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (4)
57%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Ok soO pls go slap INno now. It would be so typical INno to outplay his opponent in 2 games just to throw the 2nd game go full tilt then lose the series.
On August 09 2015 03:09 GumBa wrote: Ok soO pls go slap INno now. It would be so typical INno to outplay his opponent in 2 games just to throw the 2nd game go full tilt then lose the series.
Bogus should play poker. Even though he's mentally broken, he still has an impassive facade.
On August 09 2015 03:09 GumBa wrote: Ok soO pls go slap INno now. It would be so typical INno to outplay his opponent in 2 games just to throw the 2nd game go full tilt then lose the series.
On August 09 2015 03:12 The_Templar wrote: I'm not sure what twitch has to gain here by showing me the same commercial for some stupid game four times in a row.
I can't believe that game 2. ForGG could have done nothing to win that game. Bogus could have done anything at all but that unsiege and he would have won. Frankly, its kind of impressive that he managed to lose in hindsight.
On August 09 2015 03:11 Ej_ wrote: nobody here watching Bunny actually win games with mech?
BUNNY WON WITH MECH?!?! HOW!?! I swear to god that literally hasn't happened before ever. #mechimbaconfirmation
I didn't see 1st series, but they are playing a rematch now and Bunny lost this game 30min ago to speedlings and now has raven/thor/viking vs ultras and vipers
On August 09 2015 03:14 royalroadweed wrote: I can't believe that game 2. ForGG could have done nothing to win that game. Bogus could have done anything at all but that unsiege and he would have won. Frankly, its kind of impressive that he managed to lose in hindsight.
On August 09 2015 03:17 royalroadweed wrote: Seeing bogus throw like that again got me thinking about soulkey. Haven't seen him since he got rekt by creator. Is he retired?
On August 09 2015 03:17 royalroadweed wrote: Seeing bogus throw like that again got me thinking about soulkey. Haven't seen him since he got rekt by creator. Is he retired?
"Taking a break," yeah. Not that he was a hard worker to begin with, really. Not sure he really wants to play anymore. Even when he wasn't on "break" he was just kind of blowing off clan war stuff and not playing well.
On August 09 2015 03:17 royalroadweed wrote: Seeing bogus throw like that again got me thinking about soulkey. Haven't seen him since he got rekt by creator. Is he retired?
"Taking a break," yeah. Not that he was a hard worker to begin with, really. Not sure he really wants to play anymore. Even when he wasn't on "break" he was just kind of blowing off clan war stuff and not playing well.
here's to hope he switches to BW instead of retiring/sucking at SC2
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★- Good game (3)
38%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
38%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 03:35 Kimb3r wrote: Why the hack do they use this useless overlay with no information... jesus, those amateurs. Just do it like the Koreans pls...
On August 09 2015 03:35 Kimb3r wrote: Why the hack do they use this useless overlay with no information... jesus, those amateurs. Just do it like the Koreans pls...
Yeah! It would be so much better if they hid the timer.
On August 09 2015 03:35 Kimb3r wrote: Why the hack do they use this useless overlay with no information... jesus, those amateurs. Just do it like the Koreans pls...
On August 09 2015 03:35 Kimb3r wrote: Why the hack do they use this useless overlay with no information... jesus, those amateurs. Just do it like the Koreans pls...
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★- Good game (6)
86%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs INnoVation Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On August 09 2015 03:46 GumBa wrote: soO Fanta MMA INno at a single tournament is my wet dream so close to me but no jk got a fucking job which fucking destroyed my life.
On August 09 2015 03:46 GumBa wrote: soO Fanta MMA INno at a single tournament is my wet dream so close to me but no jk got a fucking job which fucking destroyed my life.
On sunday? impressive but sad rip passion
I dont have to work this sunday but my shift gets set on a week to week basis so I cant prebook TT
On August 09 2015 03:46 GumBa wrote: soO Fanta MMA INno at a single tournament is my wet dream so close to me but no jk got a fucking job which fucking destroyed my life.
On August 09 2015 08:59 ChoDing wrote: Former SKT1 vs Current SKT1 on both sides...
SKT1 all day every day....sigh
MMA is former SlayerS, he was only in SKT for like a brief time in 2008 & 2009 because he knew Boxer, then he started his career basically in SlayerS, so MMA doesn't count.
On August 09 2015 08:59 ChoDing wrote: Former SKT1 vs Current SKT1 on both sides...
SKT1 all day every day....sigh
MMA is former SlayerS, he was only in SKT for like a brief time in 2008 & 2009 because he knew Boxer, then he started his career basically in SlayerS, so MMA doesn't count.
But still, SKT, all day everyday (Yaaaaaaay)
SKT for a few months still super counts because he was still on SKT. Although he was on SKT for BW.
On August 09 2015 08:59 ChoDing wrote: Former SKT1 vs Current SKT1 on both sides...
SKT1 all day every day....sigh
MMA is former SlayerS, he was only in SKT for like a brief time in 2008 & 2009 because he knew Boxer, then he started his career basically in SlayerS, so MMA doesn't count.
But still, SKT, all day everyday (Yaaaaaaay)
SKT for a few months still super counts because he was still on SKT. Although he was on SKT for BW.
SKT should organise a SC2 league or tourney within the team house.
Seriously, I would so watch a slug fest between Inno, soO, Dark, Classic, Dream... well, maybe also extend the invitation to all former SKT players like Rain, Parting, Soulkey, Fantasy.... and maybe also mix up with some BW games and invite Bisu...
Conclusions: Nerchio is the foreign hope, MMA and especially patience are the shame of Korea.
Note: I didn't include open bracket, as it presumably is full of lower level foreigners, and wouldn't be a fair comparison. In practice it'd be another 6-0 for Patience.
Biggest Winners FanTaSy went up by 20.99%, going from 67.78% to 88.78% sOs went up by 8.25%, going from 23.47% to 31.72% HyuN went up by 5.43%, going from 27.01% to 32.44% MyuNgSiK went up by 5.1%, going from 3.16% to 8.26% INnoVation went up by 3.83%, going from 94.03% to 97.86% soO went up by 2.54%, going from 14.51% to 17.05% Bbyong went up by 1.73%, going from 4.2% to 5.93% MMA went up by 0.25%, going from 0.88% to 1.13%
Biggest Losers Dear went down by 12.98%, going from 16.95% to 3.97% Lilbow went down by 5.49%, going from 19.02% to 13.54% Dark went down by 4.95%, going from 64.77% to 59.82% Rogue went down by 4.74%, going from 67.69% to 62.96% ForGG went down by 3.4%, going from 15.94% to 12.54% Solar went down by 2.33%, going from 12.14% to 9.81% Stats went down by 2.26%, going from 7.34% to 5.08% + Show Spoiler [More Losers] +
TY went down by 2.11%, going from 10.16% to 8.05% GuMiho went down by 1.91%, going from 5.87% to 3.96% Curious went down by 1.26%, going from 10.12% to 8.87% Jaedong went down by 0.99%, going from 10.18% to 9.19% MaNa went down by 0.93%, going from 1.32% to 0.39% Snute went down by 0.9%, going from 7.83% to 6.93% Bomber went down by 0.67%, going from 0.68% to 0.01% Bunny went down by 0.55%, going from 1.32% to 0.78% MarineLorD went down by 0.4%, going from 4.14% to 3.74% uThermal went down by 0.28%, going from 0.84% to 0.56% Harstem went down by 0.26%, going from 0.99% to 0.74% ShoWTimE went down by 0.25%, going from 2.39% to 2.13% Petraeus went down by 0.22%, going from 1.22% to 0.99% ByuL went down by 0.21%, going from 99.46% to 99.26% Soulkey went down by 0.15%, going from 0.31% to 0.16% Flash went down by 0.13%, going from 0.37% to 0.23% TRUE went down by 0.13%, going from 0.26% to 0.13% viOLet went down by 0.13%, going from 0.57% to 0.44%
Chances of 1+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 39.12% down to 31.18% Chances of 2+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 2.68% down to 1.05%
soO vs FanTaSyin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. soO has the #2 Headband. soO is at 17.05% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.7% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 20.4%, or 12.83% if they lose. FanTaSy is at 88.78% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.3% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 95.4%, or 83.51% if they lose.
MMA vs INnoVationin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. MMA is at 1.13% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.91% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 1.63%, or 0.84% if they lose. INnoVation is at 97.86% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.09% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.01%, or 95.9% if they lose.
INnoVation has a 34.07% chance to win ----going from 97.86% to 99.78% if they get 1st, or 96.87% if they don't. soO has a 33.13% chance to win ----going from 17.05% to 23.48% if they get 1st, or 13.86% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 21.53% chance to win ----going from 88.78% to 98.76% if they get 1st, or 86.04% if they don't. MMA has a 11.28% chance to win ----going from 1.13% to 2.63% if they get 1st, or 0.94% if they don't.
Branch #3166 -If soO wins IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 23.48% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 50.05% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 95.12% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 49.46%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 4th in GSL, he goes up to 19.03% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 70.64% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 31.92%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 12.83% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4nd in GSL, he goes down to 12.12% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 45.39% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 26.55%
Branch #3170 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, then he goes down to 83.51% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 32nd in GSL, he goes down to 67.72% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 16th in GSL, he goes to 90.47% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 8th in GSL, he goes up to 98.75 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 98.52%
Branch #3175 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL, then he goes down to 77.77% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 67.72 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes to 83.97% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 1st in IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 97.21% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 8th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 94.77%
Branch #3168 -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom, then he goes up to 2.63% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes up to 4.13% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 18.64% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 75.74% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins GSL, he goes up to 100% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 27.76%
Branch #3174 -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL, then he goes down to 79.43% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 16th place in MSI Masters, he goes down to 60.32% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in MSI Masters, he goes to 90.95% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes to 98.42%
Biggest Winners FanTaSy went up by 20.99%, going from 67.78% to 88.78% sOs went up by 8.25%, going from 23.47% to 31.72% HyuN went up by 5.43%, going from 27.01% to 32.44% MyuNgSiK went up by 5.1%, going from 3.16% to 8.26% INnoVation went up by 3.83%, going from 94.03% to 97.86% soO went up by 2.54%, going from 14.51% to 17.05% Bbyong went up by 1.73%, going from 4.2% to 5.93% MMA went up by 0.25%, going from 0.88% to 1.13%
Biggest Losers Dear went down by 12.98%, going from 16.95% to 3.97% Lilbow went down by 5.49%, going from 19.02% to 13.54% Dark went down by 4.95%, going from 64.77% to 59.82% Rogue went down by 4.74%, going from 67.69% to 62.96% ForGG went down by 3.4%, going from 15.94% to 12.54% Solar went down by 2.33%, going from 12.14% to 9.81% Stats went down by 2.26%, going from 7.34% to 5.08% + Show Spoiler [More Losers] +
TY went down by 2.11%, going from 10.16% to 8.05% GuMiho went down by 1.91%, going from 5.87% to 3.96% Curious went down by 1.26%, going from 10.12% to 8.87% Jaedong went down by 0.99%, going from 10.18% to 9.19% MaNa went down by 0.93%, going from 1.32% to 0.39% Snute went down by 0.9%, going from 7.83% to 6.93% Bomber went down by 0.67%, going from 0.68% to 0.01% Bunny went down by 0.55%, going from 1.32% to 0.78% MarineLorD went down by 0.4%, going from 4.14% to 3.74% uThermal went down by 0.28%, going from 0.84% to 0.56% Harstem went down by 0.26%, going from 0.99% to 0.74% ShoWTimE went down by 0.25%, going from 2.39% to 2.13% Petraeus went down by 0.22%, going from 1.22% to 0.99% ByuL went down by 0.21%, going from 99.46% to 99.26% Soulkey went down by 0.15%, going from 0.31% to 0.16% Flash went down by 0.13%, going from 0.37% to 0.23% TRUE went down by 0.13%, going from 0.26% to 0.13% viOLet went down by 0.13%, going from 0.57% to 0.44%
Chances of 1+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 39.12% down to 31.18% Chances of 2+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 2.68% down to 1.05%
soO vs FanTaSyin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. soO has the #2 Headband. soO is at 17.05% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.7% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 20.4%, or 12.83% if they lose. FanTaSy is at 88.78% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.3% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 95.4%, or 83.51% if they lose.
MMA vs INnoVationin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. MMA is at 1.13% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.91% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 1.63%, or 0.84% if they lose. INnoVation is at 97.86% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.09% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.01%, or 95.9% if they lose.
INnoVation has a 34.07% chance to win ----going from 97.86% to 99.78% if they get 1st, or 96.87% if they don't. soO has a 33.13% chance to win ----going from 17.05% to 23.48% if they get 1st, or 13.86% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 21.53% chance to win ----going from 88.78% to 98.76% if they get 1st, or 86.04% if they don't. MMA has a 11.28% chance to win ----going from 1.13% to 2.63% if they get 1st, or 0.94% if they don't.
Branch #3166 -If soO wins IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 23.48% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 50.05% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 95.12% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 49.46%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 4th in GSL, he goes up to 19.03% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 70.64% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 31.92%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 12.83% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4nd in GSL, he goes down to 12.12% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 45.39% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 26.55%
Branch #3170 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, then he goes down to 83.51% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 32nd in GSL, he goes down to 67.72% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 16th in GSL, he goes to 90.47% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 8th in GSL, he goes up to 98.75 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 98.52%
Branch #3175 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL, then he goes down to 77.77% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 67.72 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes to 83.97% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 1st in IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 97.21% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 8th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 94.77%
Branch #3168 -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom, then he goes up to 2.63% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes up to 4.13% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 18.64% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 75.74% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins GSL, he goes up to 100% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 27.76%
Branch #3174 -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL, then he goes down to 79.43% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 16th place in MSI Masters, he goes down to 60.32% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in MSI Masters, he goes to 90.95% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes to 98.42%
Thanks! What's the probability of soo going to the GSL final?
When the branches are calculated several games ahead, do they take into account the changed ELO from the first games, or are they calculated with fix ELO through all games?
Biggest Winners FanTaSy went up by 20.99%, going from 67.78% to 88.78% sOs went up by 8.25%, going from 23.47% to 31.72% HyuN went up by 5.43%, going from 27.01% to 32.44% MyuNgSiK went up by 5.1%, going from 3.16% to 8.26% INnoVation went up by 3.83%, going from 94.03% to 97.86% soO went up by 2.54%, going from 14.51% to 17.05% Bbyong went up by 1.73%, going from 4.2% to 5.93% MMA went up by 0.25%, going from 0.88% to 1.13%
Biggest Losers Dear went down by 12.98%, going from 16.95% to 3.97% Lilbow went down by 5.49%, going from 19.02% to 13.54% Dark went down by 4.95%, going from 64.77% to 59.82% Rogue went down by 4.74%, going from 67.69% to 62.96% ForGG went down by 3.4%, going from 15.94% to 12.54% Solar went down by 2.33%, going from 12.14% to 9.81% Stats went down by 2.26%, going from 7.34% to 5.08% + Show Spoiler [More Losers] +
TY went down by 2.11%, going from 10.16% to 8.05% GuMiho went down by 1.91%, going from 5.87% to 3.96% Curious went down by 1.26%, going from 10.12% to 8.87% Jaedong went down by 0.99%, going from 10.18% to 9.19% MaNa went down by 0.93%, going from 1.32% to 0.39% Snute went down by 0.9%, going from 7.83% to 6.93% Bomber went down by 0.67%, going from 0.68% to 0.01% Bunny went down by 0.55%, going from 1.32% to 0.78% MarineLorD went down by 0.4%, going from 4.14% to 3.74% uThermal went down by 0.28%, going from 0.84% to 0.56% Harstem went down by 0.26%, going from 0.99% to 0.74% ShoWTimE went down by 0.25%, going from 2.39% to 2.13% Petraeus went down by 0.22%, going from 1.22% to 0.99% ByuL went down by 0.21%, going from 99.46% to 99.26% Soulkey went down by 0.15%, going from 0.31% to 0.16% Flash went down by 0.13%, going from 0.37% to 0.23% TRUE went down by 0.13%, going from 0.26% to 0.13% viOLet went down by 0.13%, going from 0.57% to 0.44%
Chances of 1+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 39.12% down to 31.18% Chances of 2+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 2.68% down to 1.05%
soO vs FanTaSyin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. soO has the #2 Headband. soO is at 17.05% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.7% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 20.4%, or 12.83% if they lose. FanTaSy is at 88.78% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.3% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 95.4%, or 83.51% if they lose.
MMA vs INnoVationin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. MMA is at 1.13% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.91% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 1.63%, or 0.84% if they lose. INnoVation is at 97.86% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.09% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.01%, or 95.9% if they lose.
INnoVation has a 34.07% chance to win ----going from 97.86% to 99.78% if they get 1st, or 96.87% if they don't. soO has a 33.13% chance to win ----going from 17.05% to 23.48% if they get 1st, or 13.86% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 21.53% chance to win ----going from 88.78% to 98.76% if they get 1st, or 86.04% if they don't. MMA has a 11.28% chance to win ----going from 1.13% to 2.63% if they get 1st, or 0.94% if they don't.
Branch #3166 -If soO wins IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 23.48% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 50.05% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 95.12% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 49.46%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 4th in GSL, he goes up to 19.03% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 70.64% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 31.92%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 12.83% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4nd in GSL, he goes down to 12.12% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 45.39% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 26.55%
Branch #3170 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, then he goes down to 83.51% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 32nd in GSL, he goes down to 67.72% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 16th in GSL, he goes to 90.47% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 8th in GSL, he goes up to 98.75 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 98.52%
Branch #3175 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL, then he goes down to 77.77% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 67.72 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes to 83.97% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 1st in IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 97.21% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 8th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 94.77%
Branch #3168 -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom, then he goes up to 2.63% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes up to 4.13% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 18.64% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 75.74% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins GSL, he goes up to 100% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 27.76%
Branch #3174 -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL, then he goes down to 79.43% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 16th place in MSI Masters, he goes down to 60.32% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in MSI Masters, he goes to 90.95% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes to 98.42%
Thanks! What's the probability of soo going to the GSL final?
When the branches are calculated several games ahead, do they take into account the changed ELO from the first games, or are they calculated with fix ELO through all games?
7.86% of the time. soO gets 1st place in GSL Code S Season 3 This would change soO's chances from 17.05% to 99.97%
5.58% of the time. soO gets 2nd place in GSL Code S Season 3 This would change soO's chances from 17.05% to 67.55%
So 13.44% chance for soO to make the GSL finals.
The Aligulac ratings (it's similar to Elo but not exactly the same) are not adjusted for simulated/predicted matches. If they were then it would be too easy for players to snowball up or down in rating and make most of the simulations one-sided. Also the matches are not strictly simulated in chronological order, it does 1 tournament at a time. Many times matches aren't scheduled yet so it'd be impossible to do that anyways.
Conclusions: Nerchio is the foreign hope, MMA and especially patience are the shame of Korea.
Note: I didn't include open bracket, as it presumably is full of lower level foreigners, and wouldn't be a fair comparison. In practice it'd be another 6-0 for Patience.
Patience has some work to do, but the shame of Korea title are for the JAGW players who all lost to foreigners like Morrow and Arium at DH. Nice summary
Biggest Winners FanTaSy went up by 20.99%, going from 67.78% to 88.78% sOs went up by 8.25%, going from 23.47% to 31.72% HyuN went up by 5.43%, going from 27.01% to 32.44% MyuNgSiK went up by 5.1%, going from 3.16% to 8.26% INnoVation went up by 3.83%, going from 94.03% to 97.86% soO went up by 2.54%, going from 14.51% to 17.05% Bbyong went up by 1.73%, going from 4.2% to 5.93% MMA went up by 0.25%, going from 0.88% to 1.13%
Biggest Losers Dear went down by 12.98%, going from 16.95% to 3.97% Lilbow went down by 5.49%, going from 19.02% to 13.54% Dark went down by 4.95%, going from 64.77% to 59.82% Rogue went down by 4.74%, going from 67.69% to 62.96% ForGG went down by 3.4%, going from 15.94% to 12.54% Solar went down by 2.33%, going from 12.14% to 9.81% Stats went down by 2.26%, going from 7.34% to 5.08% + Show Spoiler [More Losers] +
TY went down by 2.11%, going from 10.16% to 8.05% GuMiho went down by 1.91%, going from 5.87% to 3.96% Curious went down by 1.26%, going from 10.12% to 8.87% Jaedong went down by 0.99%, going from 10.18% to 9.19% MaNa went down by 0.93%, going from 1.32% to 0.39% Snute went down by 0.9%, going from 7.83% to 6.93% Bomber went down by 0.67%, going from 0.68% to 0.01% Bunny went down by 0.55%, going from 1.32% to 0.78% MarineLorD went down by 0.4%, going from 4.14% to 3.74% uThermal went down by 0.28%, going from 0.84% to 0.56% Harstem went down by 0.26%, going from 0.99% to 0.74% ShoWTimE went down by 0.25%, going from 2.39% to 2.13% Petraeus went down by 0.22%, going from 1.22% to 0.99% ByuL went down by 0.21%, going from 99.46% to 99.26% Soulkey went down by 0.15%, going from 0.31% to 0.16% Flash went down by 0.13%, going from 0.37% to 0.23% TRUE went down by 0.13%, going from 0.26% to 0.13% viOLet went down by 0.13%, going from 0.57% to 0.44%
Chances of 1+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 39.12% down to 31.18% Chances of 2+ foreigners at Blizzcon went from 2.68% down to 1.05%
soO vs FanTaSyin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. soO has the #2 Headband. soO is at 17.05% Blizzcon Chances, with a 55.7% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 20.4%, or 12.83% if they lose. FanTaSy is at 88.78% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.3% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 95.4%, or 83.51% if they lose.
MMA vs INnoVationin in IEM Gamescom semifinals. MMA is at 1.13% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.91% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 1.63%, or 0.84% if they lose. INnoVation is at 97.86% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.09% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.01%, or 95.9% if they lose.
INnoVation has a 34.07% chance to win ----going from 97.86% to 99.78% if they get 1st, or 96.87% if they don't. soO has a 33.13% chance to win ----going from 17.05% to 23.48% if they get 1st, or 13.86% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 21.53% chance to win ----going from 88.78% to 98.76% if they get 1st, or 86.04% if they don't. MMA has a 11.28% chance to win ----going from 1.13% to 2.63% if they get 1st, or 0.94% if they don't.
Branch #3166 -If soO wins IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 23.48% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 50.05% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 95.12% -If soO wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 49.46%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 15.88% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 4th in GSL, he goes up to 19.03% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 70.64% -If soO gets 2nd in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 31.92%
Branch #3172 -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 12.83% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4nd in GSL, he goes down to 12.12% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 45.39% -If soO gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 2nd in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 26.55%
Branch #3170 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom, then he goes down to 83.51% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 32nd in GSL, he goes down to 67.72% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 16th in GSL, he goes to 90.47% -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 8th in GSL, he goes up to 98.75 -If Fantasy gets 4th in IEM Gamescom and 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 98.52%
Branch #3175 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL, then he goes down to 77.77% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 4th in IEM Gamescom, he goes down to 67.72 -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 2nd in IEM Gamescom, he goes to 83.97% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 1st in IEM Gamescom, he goes up to 97.21% -If Fantasy gets 32nd in GSL and 8th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 94.77%
Branch #3168 -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom, then he goes up to 2.63% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 8th in GSL, he goes up to 4.13% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 4th in GSL, he goes up to 18.64% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and gets 2nd in GSL, he goes up to 75.74% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins GSL, he goes up to 100% -If MMA wins IEM Gamescom and wins DreamHack Stockholm, he goes up to 27.76%
Branch #3174 -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL, then he goes down to 79.43% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 16th place in MSI Masters, he goes down to 60.32% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in MSI Masters, he goes to 90.95% -If Innovation loses in IEM, GSL, and SSL and gets 4th in DreamHack Stockholm, he goes to 98.42%
Thanks! What's the probability of soo going to the GSL final?
When the branches are calculated several games ahead, do they take into account the changed ELO from the first games, or are they calculated with fix ELO through all games?
7.86% of the time. soO gets 1st place in GSL Code S Season 3 This would change soO's chances from 17.05% to 99.97%
5.58% of the time. soO gets 2nd place in GSL Code S Season 3 This would change soO's chances from 17.05% to 67.55%
So 13.44% chance for soO to make the GSL finals.
The Aligulac ratings (it's similar to Elo but not exactly the same) are not adjusted for simulated/predicted matches. If they were then it would be too easy for players to snowball up or down in rating and make most of the simulations one-sided.
OK, ty.
Well, yes it would snowball, but that is how it works. If soo wins IEM, he is more likely to win GSL as well, and that is what your model would say if we asked it after IEM. There is a correlation in reality, and in your model if you plug in the data as already happened, so I don't see why you wouldn't take it into account in your simulations as well. If there are problems with implementing it I understand, it is probably not a big difference. But if by choice, I find it a bit odd.
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not the one from proleague where he just 8 pooled him
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