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Poll: Bomber vs First?Bomber Wins (8) 62% First Wins (5) 38% 13 total votes Your vote: Bomber vs First? (Vote): Bomber Wins
(Vote): First Wins
Poll: Symbol vs HurricaneHurricane Wins (8) 53% Symbol Wins (7) 47% 15 total votes Your vote: Symbol vs Hurricane (Vote): Symbol Wins
(Vote): Hurricane Wins
Poll: Sacsri vs CureCure Wins (9) 60% Sacsri Wins (6) 40% 15 total votes Your vote: Sacsri vs Cure (Vote): Sacsri Wins
(Vote): Cure Wins
Poll: Fantasy vs SanFantasy Wins (15) 94% San Wins (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Fantasy vs San (Vote): Fantasy Wins
(Vote): San Wins
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It's not the GomTvT Era. Those were LONG days.
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Hype
Then Chelsea vs. Red Bulls tonight
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WCS Predictor 2015
GSL Code A Season 3 Day 7   Bomber vs  First in in GSL Code A Season 3 round of 48. Bomber is at 0.39% Blizzcon Chances, with a 50.23% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.77%, or 0.01% if they lose. First is at 0.03% Blizzcon Chances, with a 49.77% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.06%, or 0.01% if they lose.  Symbol vs Hurricane in in GSL Code A Season 3 round of 48. Symbol is at 0.01% Blizzcon Chances, with a 39.66% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.02%, or 0.01% if they lose. Hurricane is at 0.07% Blizzcon Chances, with a 60.34% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.11%, or 0.01% if they lose. Sacsri vs Cure in in GSL Code A Season 3 round of 48. Sacsri is at 0.24% Blizzcon Chances, with a 49.6% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.48%, or 0.01% if they lose. Cure is at 0.09% Blizzcon Chances, with a 50.4% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.18%, or 0.01% if they lose. FanTaSy vs San in in GSL Code A Season 3 round of 48. FanTaSy is at 40.97% Blizzcon Chances, with a 58.87% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 51.28%, or 26.21% if they lose. San is at 0.27% Blizzcon Chances, with a 41.13% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.64%, or 0.01% if they lose. + Show Spoiler [Code A Winning Chances] + Zest has a 73.3% chance to win ----going from 96.63% to 97.95% if they get 1st, or 92.98% if they don't. herO has a 64.06% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Hurricane has a 60.34% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 0.11% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 58.87% chance to win ----going from 40.97% to 51.28% if they get 1st, or 26.21% if they don't. HyuN has a 52.82% chance to win ----going from 30.01% to 38.94% if they get 1st, or 20.01% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] + Cure has a 50.4% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 0.18% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Bomber has a 50.23% chance to win ----going from 0.39% to 0.77% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. First has a 49.77% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 0.06% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Sacsri has a 49.6% chance to win ----going from 0.24% to 0.48% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. GuMiho has a 47.18% chance to win ----going from 3.74% to 7.16% if they get 1st, or 0.68% if they don't. San has a 41.13% chance to win ----going from 0.27% to 0.64% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Symbol has a 39.66% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Armani has a 35.94% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Patience has a 26.7% chance to win ----going from 0.44% to 1.48% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. Solar, Bbyong, Flash, GuMiho, Sacsri, MMA, Bomber, San, and Patience must win this tournament! PartinG has a 9.23% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. soO has a 8.18% chance to win ----going from 18.39% to 99.39% if they get 1st, or 11.17% if they don't. INnoVation has a 7.4% chance to win ----going from 83.8% to 100% if they get 1st, or 82.51% if they don't. Rain has a 7.36% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Classic has a 6.72% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] + Maru has a 6.27% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Dark has a 5.32% chance to win ----going from 61.23% to 100% if they get 1st, or 59.05% if they don't. Life has a 4.78% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. sOs has a 4.29% chance to win ----going from 46.62% to 100% if they get 1st, or 44.23% if they don't. Solar has a 3.64% chance to win ----going from 3.75% to 79.36% if they get 1st, or 0.89% if they don't. Zest has a 3.51% chance to win ----going from 96.63% to 100% if they get 1st, or 96.5% if they don't. Dear has a 3.34% chance to win ----going from 18.49% to 99.95% if they get 1st, or 15.67% if they don't. Bbyong has a 3.23% chance to win ----going from 4.84% to 95.68% if they get 1st, or 1.81% if they don't. Curious has a 2.94% chance to win ----going from 11.62% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 8.94% if they don't. ByuL has a 2.76% chance to win ----going from 90.48% to 100% if they get 1st, or 90.21% if they don't. herO has a 2.52% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Rogue has a 2.38% chance to win ----going from 65.1% to 100% if they get 1st, or 64.25% if they don't. Flash has a 2.11% chance to win ----going from 0.61% to 24.82% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't. FanTaSy has a 1.97% chance to win ----going from 40.97% to 100% if they get 1st, or 39.78% if they don't. HyuN has a 1.83% chance to win ----going from 30.01% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 28.7% if they don't. MyuNgSiK has a 1.16% chance to win ----going from 8.19% to 99.94% if they get 1st, or 7.11% if they don't. GuMiho has a 1.09% chance to win ----going from 3.74% to 99.96% if they get 1st, or 2.67% if they don't. Trust has a 0.99% chance to win ----going from 0.04% to 4.12% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Sacsri has a 0.91% chance to win ----going from 0.24% to 22.63% if they get 1st, or 0.03% if they don't. MMA has a 0.73% chance to win ----going from 0.69% to 70.71% if they get 1st, or 0.18% if they don't. Cure has a 0.7% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 11.62% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Pigbaby has a 0.6% chance to win ----going from 0.02% to 3.43% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Hurricane has a 0.58% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 10.38% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Bomber has a 0.57% chance to win ----going from 0.39% to 53.6% if they get 1st, or 0.09% if they don't. San has a 0.51% chance to win ----going from 0.27% to 43.52% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't. Losira has a 0.47% chance to win ----going from 0.07% to 11.99% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. First has a 0.36% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 7.09% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Hack has a 0.32% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 2.81% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. sKyHigh has a 0.31% chance to win ----going from 0.03% to 7.46% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Armani has a 0.3% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 2.02% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Patience has a 0.25% chance to win ----going from 0.44% to 89.07% if they get 1st, or 0.22% if they don't. Stork has a 0.15% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.76% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Symbol has a 0.11% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 7.16% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. Sleep has a 0.1% chance to win ----going from 0.01% to 0.55% if they get 1st, or 0.01% if they don't. (I had to take out the players that are already 100% to make it fit) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A7VnTww.png)
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I want both Bomber and First to advance  .
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On July 22 2015 17:32 Roadog wrote:
Hype
Then Chelsea vs. Red Bulls tonight
Haha yes, but for me it will require to stay up until 1:30am for kick off
I am going to try it though, but work will be a killer in the morning
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Fantasy, please build vikings this time.
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Moonglade & Artosis? This should be sick city!
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is this actually starting now lol?
nvm lol edit
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On July 22 2015 17:37 Wrathsc2 wrote:
is this actually starting now lol?
4 matches, so earlier start I guess...
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First played 1 game in Proleague. In March.
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Double pylon cuz, fuck u are u denying it xD
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That was a rather effective oracle :O
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Losing 9 SCVs to an Oracle as a pro must feel pretty humuliating in the first place
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lol how has the rottibuild become part of the meta
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Poll: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 1Excellent Game (5) 38% Meh Game (3) 23% Bad Game (3) 23% Good Game (2) 15% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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proxy oracle every game it feels
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First has the right strategy. Bomber always so bad at scouting and defending cheese.
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Korean Zergs have Catz, Korean Protosses have Rotti. Who is the Terran savior?
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So Bomber scouts no natural nexus and double gas and has no defenses for anything?
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
On July 22 2015 17:44 Elentos wrote:
So Bomber scouts no natural nexus and double gas and has no defenses for anything?
Not only that, he scouted 0 pylons pretty much in the main as well due to double pylon on the proxy stargate :')
Joke, still making factory and no ebay!
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Bomber reminded me of Marineking in game 1, couldn't tell you why...
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On July 22 2015 17:43 deacon.frost wrote:
Korean Zergs have Catz, Korean Protosses have Rotti. Who is the Terran savior?
 RuFF
+ Show Spoiler +
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Proxy oracle for the 2nd time.
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On July 22 2015 17:34 Pandemona wrote:Haha yes, but for me it will require to stay up until 1:30am for kick off I am going to try it though, but work will be a killer in the morning
you are lucky, thats the usual time for me to watch CL and midweek fixtures
i need to stay until 6 am to watch today's match :\
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I love when widow mines kill observers
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Terrans aren't smart enough to produce players like sOs
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
On July 22 2015 17:49 BeaTeR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 17:34 Pandemona wrote:On July 22 2015 17:32 Roadog wrote:
Hype
Then Chelsea vs. Red Bulls tonight Haha yes, but for me it will require to stay up until 1:30am for kick off I am going to try it though, but work will be a killer in the morning you are lucky, thats the usual time for me to watch CL and midweek fixtures i need to stay until 6 am to watch today's match :\
Poor beater. Passhuurrn though <3
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that's the 3rd time out of 2 games that the worker kill counter showed 9 lol
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Funny how tehse days, 9 dead workers is a lot. Remeber the glorious days of 200 dead SCVs per game when hellbats were good.
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Game over, man! Game over!
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Poll: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 2Meh Game (4) 44% Good Game (3) 33% Excellent Game (1) 11% Bad Game (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Bomber floated 1200 minerals when controlling 3 medivacs :O
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On July 22 2015 17:53 opisska wrote:
Funny how tehse days, 9 dead workers is a lot. Remeber the glorious days of 200 dead SCVs per game when hellbats were good.
Some of the large map macro games. Sub-200 dead workers were rare. I kind of miss those days.
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Bomber is better in a macro game. If First wants to win he has to go for cheeses.
(I put my Liquibet on Bomber though, I don't believe that First can do that)
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Moonglade: beats Dream and Bomber, loses to elfi
RIP
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On July 22 2015 17:57 Elentos wrote:
Moonglade: beats Dream and Bomber, loses to elfi
RIP
This just shows how good Elfi actually is!
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Holy shit, if Bomber doesn't scout it this time....
Also, it's nice to see Echo again :D
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Nobody expects this TWICE
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move your fucking marines bomber
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this series is both awful and great
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Protoss is a Warcraft race, Moonglade.
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WHy not go for factory and mines and tech to starport?
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he was attacking the rocks...
this series...
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does Bomber not have stim?
guess not lol
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Bomber should really get take some SCV to build starports out on the map.
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Which is worse : Panic/Blaze vs Sleep or this series ?
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On July 22 2015 18:04 Durnuu wrote:
Which is worse : Panic/Blaze vs Sleep or this series ?
Definitely this.
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I think this is a good build by First, it exposes the bad game design. I hope First wins this, he deserves it.
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Jesus Christ, WCS Challenger is gonna look high level compared to this series
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On July 22 2015 18:05 Spinoza wrote:
I think this is a good build by First, it exposes the bad game design. I hope First wins this, he deserves it.
what bad game design lol?
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On July 22 2015 18:05 Spinoza wrote:
I think this is a good build by First, it exposes the bad game design. I hope First wins this, he deserves it.
You mean the bad game design of Bomber blindly ddoing the same build over and over again and not ever scouting around the map?
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Just build tons of marines, win.
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How could he possibly loose that?
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 3Excellent Game (10) 67% Bad Game (4) 27% Good Game (1) 7% Meh Game (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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lol such a poor execution
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On July 22 2015 18:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Jesus Christ, WCS Challenger is gonna look high level compared to this series
woa, slow down there
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I need rotti's expert analysis of this build
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
On July 22 2015 18:07 Pandemona wrote:Poll: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 3Excellent Game (10) 67% Bad Game (4) 27% Good Game (1) 7% Meh Game (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Sneak a hidden base. Would make the proxy Tempest sort of hilarious.
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On July 22 2015 18:07 Heartland wrote:
I need rotti's expert analysis of this build
make an offensive nexus and a mothership core instead of stalkers. and more tempest
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"Everything you can possibly imagine about war!" lol, that's not all good for a game...
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I still think that on this map carriers would be better.
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On July 22 2015 18:08 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Sneak a hidden base. Would make the proxy Tempest sort of hilarious.
i remember a game where rotti took the terran's third and defended using motership core and cannons while he got his tempest count up.
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On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better.
carriers are always better in my heart
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On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better.
the marines and any turrets would just kill the interceptors
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On July 22 2015 18:10 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better. carriers are always better in my heart
Yup, I remember MC(I think) doing 2 carrier (c)rush. It was beautiful 
On July 22 2015 18:11 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better. the marines and any turrets would just kill the interceptors
Yes, that's why you would need to attack earlier and "screw oracles". Bomber doesn't build turrets otherwise anyway.
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On July 22 2015 18:11 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:10 Die4Ever wrote:On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better. carriers are always better in my heart Yup, I remember MC(I think) doing 2 carrier (c)rush. It was beautiful Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:11 Heartland wrote:On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better. the marines and any turrets would just kill the interceptors Yes, that's why you would need to attack earlier and "screw oracles". Bomber doesn't build turrets otherwise anyway.
Carrier build time is basically 20 minutes tho.
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HeyGuys just gonna say that entering Venice by boat is marvellous. Oh and go Bomber. My body is about to erupt from heat.
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On July 22 2015 18:14 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:11 deacon.frost wrote:On July 22 2015 18:10 Die4Ever wrote:On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better. carriers are always better in my heart Yup, I remember MC(I think) doing 2 carrier (c)rush. It was beautiful On July 22 2015 18:11 Heartland wrote:On July 22 2015 18:10 deacon.frost wrote:
I still think that on this map carriers would be better. the marines and any turrets would just kill the interceptors Yes, that's why you would need to attack earlier and "screw oracles". Bomber doesn't build turrets otherwise anyway. Carrier build time is basically 20 minutes tho.
You have to believe! If you believe anything can happen!
But I can see why First doesn't trust Carriers after Life hit him 
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On July 22 2015 18:14 Wintex wrote:
HeyGuys just gonna say that entering Venice by boat is marvellous. Oh and go Bomber. My body is about to erupt from heat.
jelly as hell right now
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On July 22 2015 18:14 Wintex wrote:
HeyGuys just gonna say that entering Venice by boat is marvellous. Oh and go Bomber. My body is about to erupt from heat.
'tis the only way to travel there! quite the place.
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It's because we're going somewhere
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On July 22 2015 18:14 Wintex wrote:
HeyGuys just gonna say that entering Venice by boat is marvellous. Oh and go Bomber. My body is about to erupt from heat.
ha do you even get to watch GSL on PC? NERD!
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So... tempests are a late game unit, right? If you rush to tempests of 1 base, is that a rush to late game? <.<
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On July 22 2015 18:16 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:14 Wintex wrote:
HeyGuys just gonna say that entering Venice by boat is marvellous. Oh and go Bomber. My body is about to erupt from heat. 'tis the only way to travel there! quite the place.
I walked over the birdge, was not that bad either.
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HEY. Chocolate milk is delicious. One does not simply grow out of chocolate milk.
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On July 22 2015 18:19 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:16 Larkin wrote:On July 22 2015 18:14 Wintex wrote:
HeyGuys just gonna say that entering Venice by boat is marvellous. Oh and go Bomber. My body is about to erupt from heat. 'tis the only way to travel there! quite the place. I walked over the birdge, was not that bad either.
mm I've driven over the bridge, but it doesn't quite beat the water taxi
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none of these people will survive the first round in code s if they play like this
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On July 22 2015 18:21 Heartland wrote:
none of these people will survive the first round in code s if they play like this
you could draw a group of Sleep, Pigbaby and Hack
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On July 22 2015 18:22 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:21 Heartland wrote:
none of these people will survive the first round in code s if they play like this you could draw a group of Sleep, Pigbaby and Hack
At least Hack, Pigbaby and Sleep had some pretty good moments in their Code A matches T.T
Also is that group even possible? Is there no seeding in Ro32 groups?
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zealots stuck in the back behind collossi X__X
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first had some nice builds but dear god his execution is absolutely terrible
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How is First on KT wtf? Is he the tea boy? Washing up guy or something holy hell. Just got rekt by BOMBER....old man Terran. Would be equivalent of White Ra winning HSC lol.
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Epic zealots position............
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Wow.
Well I guess that explains why Flash has been pulling SCVs more again.
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Welp, that's enough for me today. This series has killed my passion for at least 5 or 6 hours.
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Poll: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 4Bad Game (5) 63% Good Game (2) 25% Excellent Game (1) 13% Meh Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 4 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 5Bad Game (5) 63% Excellent Game (1) 13% Good Game (1) 13% Meh Game (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs First Game 5 (Vote): Excellent Game
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On July 22 2015 18:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Welp, that's enough for me today. This series has killed my passion for at least 5 or 6 hours.
How could you lack the Passun! What has this generation come up to 
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On July 22 2015 18:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Welp, that's enough for me today. This series has killed my passion for at least 5 or 6 hours.
Wow your passion is weak!
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this sucks. i wanted to see one of our b-teamers actually do well. at least we have sleep i guess.. kt isn't exactly an incubator for talent these days
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My passion isn't that weak when you consider its 3:30 AM and I want to watch WCS tomorrow since it'll probably be higher level than that last series.
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On July 22 2015 18:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Welp, that's enough for me today. This series has killed my passion for at least 5 or 6 hours. Wow your passion is weak!
He tagged me in
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On July 22 2015 18:31 dazed25 wrote:
this sucks. i wanted to see one of our b-teamers actually do well. at least we have sleep i guess.. kt isn't exactly an incubator for talent these days
So is jinair it seems like. It's sad. Then again, dark and other b-teamers were like that last year behind the mighty rain, parting, soulkey, soo. Even classic was not that good.
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On July 22 2015 18:39 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:31 dazed25 wrote:
this sucks. i wanted to see one of our b-teamers actually do well. at least we have sleep i guess.. kt isn't exactly an incubator for talent these days So is jinair it seems like. It's sad. Then again, dark and other b-teamers were like that last year behind the mighty rain, parting, soulkey, soo. Even classic was not that good.
that skt team was ridiculously stacked. even the castoffs could form a competitive pl team: fanta, rain, soulkey, parting.. oh well at least our main guns are finally performing (somewhat).
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Huh, I didn't even realise until today that GSL's main sponsor is Hot6 again instead of SBENU.
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Making proxy hatcheries at non-natural expansion locations is surprisingly trendy now
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Someone build a hatch in that place yesterday in diamond league. Made roaches and queens and killed me while I was going dt into expand.
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This is hilarious, Hurricane scouted everything except the place where the hatch is
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On July 22 2015 18:43 Elentos wrote:
Huh, I didn't even realise until today that GSL's main sponsor is Hot6 again instead of SBENU.
Sbenu is still sponsoring Proleague and SSL. The passion is real!
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I feel like I'm watching bronzr league heroes
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On July 22 2015 18:46 D-light wrote:
Someone build a hatch in that place yesterday in diamond league. Made roaches and queens and killed me while I was going dt into expand.
you went dt into expand in pvz?
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On July 22 2015 18:46 deacon.frost wrote:This is hilarious, Hurricane scouted everything except the place where the hatch is
However he must have known that there is a hatch somewhere after seeing nothing else anywhere. Should have prepared better.
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Nicely done by Symbol, but I'm surprised that he didn't just kill the pylon instead of focusing each cannon before anything else
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On July 22 2015 18:45 opisska wrote:
Making proxy hatcheries at non-natural expansion locations is surprisingly trendy now
It's powerful against a lot of Protoss openings. It's been powerful since 2011, frankly.
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On July 22 2015 18:46 deacon.frost wrote:This is hilarious, Hurricane scouted everything except the place where the hatch is
I am so confused why he didn't scout that one. Could have even cannoned that from behind the mineral line.
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On July 22 2015 18:48 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:46 D-light wrote:
Someone build a hatch in that place yesterday in diamond league. Made roaches and queens and killed me while I was going dt into expand. you went dt into expand in pvz?
I like to be creative.
Also my wall was way better.
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I guess what happened was that Hurricane believed it was a gold base, which wouldn't have this spine push, so that's why he didn't react correctly. Cool mind game from Symbol!
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On July 22 2015 18:49 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:48 Heartland wrote:On July 22 2015 18:46 D-light wrote:
Someone build a hatch in that place yesterday in diamond league. Made roaches and queens and killed me while I was going dt into expand. you went dt into expand in pvz? I like to be creative. Also my wall was way better.
Wow, you're literally tlo
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On July 22 2015 18:47 Hassybaby wrote:
This got weird
Since when do you watch SC2 again?
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On July 22 2015 18:49 Heartland wrote:
I guess what happened was that Hurricane believed it was a gold base, which wouldn't have this spine push, so that's why he didn't react correctly. Cool mind game from Symbol!
But he scouted both golds :S
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On July 22 2015 18:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:49 Heartland wrote:
I guess what happened was that Hurricane believed it was a gold base, which wouldn't have this spine push, so that's why he didn't react correctly. Cool mind game from Symbol! But he scouted both golds :S
Ah, did he? Then that was just not a good response
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On July 22 2015 18:49 Heartland wrote:
I guess what happened was that Hurricane believed it was a gold base, which wouldn't have this spine push, so that's why he didn't react correctly. Cool mind game from Symbol!
He scouted both gold bases though, didn't he? This happens so rarely but once you lose to it you will never more. In my case I lost to roach rush from my third, but still, from that day I was scouting both thirds(Overgrowth back then) and I still do even today.
You cannot trust the Zerg player.
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Now what build has Coach Stork bestowed upon Hurricane for this situation?
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On July 22 2015 18:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:Since when do you watch SC2 again?
Other things are boring
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In these positions you can kill larvae with Oracles if they Zerg defends perfectly That's the power of dark side!
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Say what you will of ZvP but at least Z plays in a far more fun and #creative way than all the other years combined
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Stork has better PvZ than Hurricane and Stork is a playing coach <.<
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Another day, another great Code A
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On July 22 2015 18:55 Heartland wrote:
Say what you will of ZvP but at least Z plays in a far more fun and #creative way than all the other years combined
I missed the times when Protoss had to play fun multitask strats and use mothership to combat BL/infestor
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On July 22 2015 18:57 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 18:55 Heartland wrote:
Say what you will of ZvP but at least Z plays in a far more fun and #creative way than all the other years combined I missed the times when Protoss had to play fun multitask strats and use mothership to combat BL/infestor
We had these games with swarmhosts ,-)
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LotV needs to bring back baneling drops somehow
and Fruitdealer
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Colossi? Hurricane pls that's not an actual unit against roach/hydra.
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Symbol make some mutas or corruptors..
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Two Mutas + Burrow. 500/500 that will more than pay for itself in a Macro game.
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wow hurricane has pretty impressive control
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I watch all of these with my breakfast ...
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By the time the games finish it is dinner time though xD
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No hot pick up achievement for that stalker !
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On July 22 2015 19:13 opisska wrote:
I watch all of these with my breakfast ...
#studentsineurope
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Hurricane going collossus vs Zerg like he was a foreigner
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On July 22 2015 19:15 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 19:13 opisska wrote:
I watch all of these with my breakfast ... #studentsineurope
Indeed, I am, technically, a student
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hmm, I wonder if that was worth it
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On July 22 2015 19:20 Heartland wrote:
hmm, I wonder if that was worth it
Totally worth it. 100 vs 200 supply. Just a move to victory
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For the zerg, it definitely was. with roach-hydra, you just send wave after wave until the kill count overflows.
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On July 22 2015 19:21 deacon.frost wrote:Totally worth it. 100 vs 200 supply. Just a move to victory
I guess it's what happens if you play Colossus, it's easy to get wiped out like this
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On July 22 2015 19:21 opisska wrote:
For the zerg, it definitely was. with roach-hydra, you just send wave after wave until the kill count overflows.
AKA Zapp Brannigan tactic!
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Hell yeah!1 more Symbol!
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He would have been better if the attack came 3-4 mins later, he needed few more colli, but he didn't have enough thus gets wiped quicker if not he holds easily. Especially with +3 attack that was done by time 2nd wave came. Alas, he didn't and gets killed.
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On July 22 2015 19:22 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 19:21 opisska wrote:
For the zerg, it definitely was. with roach-hydra, you just send wave after wave until the kill count overflows. AKA Zapp Brannigan tactic!
Oh I remember that guy; Mr. "Sham-pa-gan"
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"something like 60%" - that doesn't sound remotely accurate at all
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4 bases on hatchery tech and 7 army supply
Snute is that you
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Ah, the nice Code A live-watcher shoutout. Thanks Artosis!
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On July 22 2015 19:38 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Wow ventral sacs cool!
Well, no one is going to expect it. That's for sure.
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A single Void Ray would have a field day with that huge Overlord line
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Overlord train the new Soul Train, choo choo!
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On July 22 2015 19:42 Ej_ wrote:
yeah so drops still suck
Zerg doesn't have any good Anti-Building units. That's really the problem with it. (And lack of practice for the decision making also tends to show.)
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Just drope dead Hurricane...Jesus...
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Major tech buildings have to be sniped if you're going to commit to that. So many Protoss living off just 1 Robo really makes it an important target. Getting the Robo, Core and Templar Archives would be a great haul.
Edit: And there's a lot of times when Terran would be wise to snipe Tech buildings more often, as well.
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Protoss.
3rd base ? Check.
Gate rush ? Check.
Win ? Check.
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Just retire already...end the suffering. 
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Lets go Sacsri!
And then San if I'm not here for the games!
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I'm kinda surprised though that he played so badly with his lings doing nothing for a good 5 sec around the FFs. Was he browsing tl.net ?
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On July 22 2015 20:00 RaiZ wrote:
I'm kinda surprised though that he played so badly with his lings doing nothing for a good 5 sec around the FFs. Was he browsing tl.net ?
Sick internet connection and reading skills then.
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Artosis is right, I expected so much from Cure back in the Day, but then he just.... didn't do anything O_O
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So who also think Sacsri is gonna crush Cure?
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I can't believe I'm so messed up already when it comes to liquibets
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On July 22 2015 20:11 ejozl wrote:
So who also think Sacsri is gonna crush Cure?
I do, I have to
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On July 22 2015 20:12 Noonius wrote:
I can't believe I'm so messed up already when it comes to liquibets
I am not alone, yay!
Edit>
Also - who was there on the screen? I didn't catch the pro
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On July 22 2015 20:11 ejozl wrote:
So who also think Sacsri is gonna crush Cure?
im pretty sure sacsri is the better player right now 2bh. We will see.
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Did you ever notice that you can't start an upgrade if it is queued in another evo? Why the hell is that, it should let you start it and then fail when it comes up in the other queue.
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Sacsri thought he was playing mech, didn't he?
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That Cure macro is pretty beastly.
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On July 22 2015 20:20 Ej_ wrote:
Sacsri thought he was playing mech, didn't he?
Yeah definitely. Probably because he saw Cure made more hellions after losing them at Sacsri's 3rd.
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On July 22 2015 20:20 Ej_ wrote:
Sacsri thought he was playing mech, didn't he?
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
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On July 22 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
Did you ever notice that you can't start an upgrade if it is queued in another evo? Why the hell is that, it should let you start it and then fail when it comes up in the other queue.
hmm one problem with that is that you could have 200/200 invested in +1 melee without knowing, because you're making it 2 places.
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On July 22 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
Did you ever notice that you can't start an upgrade if it is queued in another evo? Why the hell is that, it should let you start it and then fail when it comes up in the other queue.
I agree, It feels like SC2 is all about battling that interface ;-)
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I like adrenal and ultras over 3/3. Definitely packs a lot more punch.
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On July 22 2015 20:21 ejozl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
Did you ever notice that you can't start an upgrade if it is queued in another evo? Why the hell is that, it should let you start it and then fail when it comes up in the other queue. hmm one problem with that is that you could have 200/200 invested in +1 melee without knowing, because you're making it 2 places.
But you kinda have it the same in the current way, the money is lying somewhere not doing anything. Sacsri noticed quickly, but it obviously happens even to pros.
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On July 22 2015 20:24 Ej_ wrote:
I like adrenal and ultras over 3/3. Definitely packs a lot more punch.
Adrenal is essentially a +3 attack, only better.
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Oh no, you can't just lose all the banelings to kill a base in this situation!
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Sacsri gonna lose I think, almost no army and weak eco vs 4 base Terran
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The center of the map is terrible in HoTS and awesome in LoTV, because of Lurkers.
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this game is so close. The adding in on mutas is rly good here.
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On July 22 2015 20:30 ejozl wrote:
this game is so close. The adding in on mutas is rly good here.
Cure has a really big lead just needs to make sure he doesn't mess up a fight.
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oh yeah biomine tvz give it to me baby, thats how I like it
why can't we make every matchup like this?
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myi vs yfw showmatch needs to happen
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wow gasless into LBM, now that's oldschool
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rofl Cure is like "bitch I saw Dream vs Dark". Or did he scout gasless?
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On July 22 2015 20:36 ilovegroov wrote:
oh yeah biomine tvz give it to me baby, thats how I like it
why can't we make every matchup like this?
Nah that would be just boring wouldn't it, I've been trying to get a friend into SC2 recently, and he honestly really dislikes TvZ since he thinks its always just the same unless they go mech, then he's interested again =P
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On July 22 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 20:36 ilovegroov wrote:
oh yeah biomine tvz give it to me baby, thats how I like it
why can't we make every matchup like this? Nah that would be just boring wouldn't it, I've been trying to get a friend into SC2 recently, and he honestly really dislikes TvZ since he thinks its always just the same unless they go mech, then he's interested again =P
Yup, exactly my case too.
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Queens harassing SCV's? I love it!
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ok, reminder to self: never bet against a terran ever again... unless it's THAT terran
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On July 22 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 20:36 ilovegroov wrote:
oh yeah biomine tvz give it to me baby, thats how I like it
why can't we make every matchup like this? Nah that would be just boring wouldn't it, I've been trying to get a friend into SC2 recently, and he honestly really dislikes TvZ since he thinks its always just the same unless they go mech, then he's interested again =P
Yeah but once he watched the game for 5 years he has seen everything and then he will just want to watch the intensive matchups which won't involve turtle all the time. When I was new I thought all long macro games were awesome too...
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cure so stronk
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On July 22 2015 20:47 ilovegroov wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On July 22 2015 20:36 ilovegroov wrote:
oh yeah biomine tvz give it to me baby, thats how I like it
why can't we make every matchup like this? Nah that would be just boring wouldn't it, I've been trying to get a friend into SC2 recently, and he honestly really dislikes TvZ since he thinks its always just the same unless they go mech, then he's interested again =P Yeah but once he watched the game for 5 years he has seen everything and then he will just want to watch the intensive matchups which won't involve turtle all the time. When I was new I thought all long macro games were awesome too...
Well I sorta pick out the best matches still right now, we are at that stage, sooooo not too much too long turtling.
Tbh. one of the biggest reason I think he enjoys other MU more (especially PvZ which he loves) is that he only plays 2v2 or customs with me, and like never 1v1, so he doesn't understand or know the constant frustration that both Protoss and Zerg feel with basically everything their opponnent is doing, which makes it a lot more enjoyable haha
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Well this one is in the bag for Sacsi.
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<.< Cure you were supposed to win 3-0 so I can cry about Fantasy failing again
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On July 22 2015 21:00 Arvendilin wrote:<.< Cure you were supposed to win 3-0 so I can cry about Fantasy failing again
If Fantasy doesn't beat San, he really doesn't deserve to be in Code S.
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On July 22 2015 21:02 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:00 Arvendilin wrote:<.< Cure you were supposed to win 3-0 so I can cry about Fantasy failing again If Fantasy doesn't beat San, he really doesn't deserve to be in Code S.
this new Code A format is so stupid. i wish we'd still have up and down matches.
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Backlit keyboards, Artosis. You praised the G9x, which is a pretty ricey and excessive mouse, how could you not know about backlit keyboards
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On July 22 2015 21:02 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:00 Arvendilin wrote:<.< Cure you were supposed to win 3-0 so I can cry about Fantasy failing again If Fantasy doesn't beat San, he really doesn't deserve to be in Code S.
I aggree, and I'm hoping for him to make it, Stork can't win a big tournament against anyone but another major Kong =P
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"How about I will not rebuild the wall against Zerg" - WTF?!
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just sat on creep waiting, wtf cure?
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"You're out of racks, your macro lacks"
Glad I tuned in today.
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Sucksri sucks lol, garbage player
User was warned for this post
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3/3 correct ! Come on Fantasy ! Made my liquibet day !!
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Hey pretty good set of games today actually, pleasantly surprised and entertained.
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On July 22 2015 21:25 mandor wrote:
Sucksri sucks lol, garbage player
I see you have decided to spend both of your posts so far for shit.
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TERRRRRRAAAAAAANNNNNN.tasteless
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Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest.
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On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest.
Why do you hate on him so much anyway?
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On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway?
I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it.
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On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it.
Fantasy is far from overrated.
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On July 22 2015 21:40 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it. Fantasy is far from overrated.
Can you show any results to back that statement up? And I don't take "man, he looked so great in that one game at a rather early stage of a tournament" as "results".
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How is Fantasy overrated?
The only time i think i saw him being over-hyped was in the polls for who to win Dreamhack Valencia recently.
Other than that i think he has been performing better than most people expected this year.
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On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it.
Well, I can name one or two other than Fantasy, but why start the flame
On July 22 2015 21:42 Kaizor wrote:
How is Fantasy overrated?
The only time i think i saw him being over-hyped was in the polls for who to win Dreamhack Valencia recently.
Other than that i think he has been performing better than most people expected this year.
It's getting better since he left T1.
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On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it.
I said hate on him, not hate him, that's a difference. "However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest." considering who his opponent is makes it clear that you don't like him though.
Nevermind the fact that his improved performances after leaving SKT and joining dPix, starting with his Ro8 result at IEM Katowice, gave his fans hope.
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I really wonder if people were that crazy about a guy with exactly same results in SC2 who weren't a BW legend.
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On July 22 2015 21:42 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:40 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it. Fantasy is far from overrated. Can you show any results to back that statement up? And I don't take "man, he looked so great in that one game at a rather early stage of a tournament" as "results".
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/FanTaSy/Results
top8 IEM WC
top8 Kespa Cup
top12 GSL
top8 DH Valencia
nobody calls him top5 Terran, but calling him overrated when he's been consistently performing in Korea is BS and you should know that
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On July 22 2015 21:42 Kaizor wrote:
How is Fantasy overrated?
The only time i think i saw him being over-hyped was in the polls for who to win Dreamhack Valencia recently.
Other than that i think he has been performing better than most people expected this year.
I agree. I think most people expected him to get worse since he left SKT.
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Fantasy is a good player (definitely vastly improving as of late), and has a cool, weird style. What's not to love?
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rip my lickybet 3/4 wrong so far
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man fantasy loves his mines
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On July 22 2015 21:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:42 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it. Fantasy is far from overrated. Can you show any results to back that statement up? And I don't take "man, he looked so great in that one game at a rather early stage of a tournament" as "results". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/FanTaSy/Resultstop8 IEM WC top8 Kespa Cup top12 GSL top8 DH Valencia nobody calls him top5 Terran, but calling him overrated when he's been consistently performing in Korea is BS and you should know that
Also qualified for the 2nd KeSPA Cup which is more than other "relevant" players can say.
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On July 22 2015 21:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:45 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:42 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it. Fantasy is far from overrated. Can you show any results to back that statement up? And I don't take "man, he looked so great in that one game at a rather early stage of a tournament" as "results". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/FanTaSy/Resultstop8 IEM WC top8 Kespa Cup top12 GSL top8 DH Valencia nobody calls him top5 Terran, but calling him overrated when he's been consistently performing in Korea is BS and you should know that Also qualified for the 2nd KeSPA Cup which is more than other "relevant" players can say.
he had a fairly easy bracket there TBH
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On July 22 2015 21:51 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:50 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:45 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:42 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:40 opisska wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:37 opisska wrote:
Organising travel and buying plane tickets has made me miss some games. However I see I am coming back in time to see the idea that Fantasy is relevant in SC2 to be finally put to rest. Why do you hate on him so much anyway? I don't hate him. You don't just start hating people you have never even met, do you? But I have just heard so much talk about him! I really can't see anyone who would be as overrated at this moment as Fantasy. I don't really wish anything bad for him, but I kinda wish that the people who keep hyping him up for months to no end finally be proven wrong so that everyone can see it. Fantasy is far from overrated. Can you show any results to back that statement up? And I don't take "man, he looked so great in that one game at a rather early stage of a tournament" as "results". http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/FanTaSy/Resultstop8 IEM WC top8 Kespa Cup top12 GSL top8 DH Valencia nobody calls him top5 Terran, but calling him overrated when he's been consistently performing in Korea is BS and you should know that Also qualified for the 2nd KeSPA Cup which is more than other "relevant" players can say. he had a fairly easy bracket there TBH
You have to make it through first even with the easy brackets. INnoVation lost to Ryung in San's bracket.
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On July 22 2015 21:45 opisska wrote:
I really wonder if people were that crazy about a guy with exactly same results in SC2 who weren't a BW legend.
Obv. not, because you have to be a legend to be overhyped. That's how it works. If Boxer returns he would be so overhyped...
You cannot overhype an unknown player, that's impossible.
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Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer".
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If that 1st game was any indication of San's form,
I'm going to be 4/4 on Liquibets for the day. Gogogo
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On July 22 2015 21:49 opisska wrote:
Admitedly, San is not looking like proving anythign about anyone today ...
He reached top 12 last season, did you in all honesty expect him to lose to San who's done almost nothing this year?
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On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer".
So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right?
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On July 22 2015 21:53 Kaizor wrote:
If that 1st game was any indication of San's form,
I'm going to be 4/4 on Liquibets for the day. Gogogo
dang it, I picked Symbol over Hurricane
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artosis showing some love for moonglade's figure <3
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On July 22 2015 21:54 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right?
I am definitely not going to argue against this statement.
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On July 22 2015 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:53 Kaizor wrote:
If that 1st game was any indication of San's form,
I'm going to be 4/4 on Liquibets for the day. Gogogo dang it, I picked Symbol over Hurricane
what a fool
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On July 22 2015 21:55 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:54 deacon.frost wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right? I am definitely not going to argue against this statement.
OK, if you are consistent you have the right to have this opinion. Though it's better to not care like I do and wait for salt <insert evil laugh>
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On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer".
Weren't you in the DH LR thread basically saying that Fantasy losing in his worst matchup to a teammate proved he's overrated?
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On July 22 2015 21:53 Kaizor wrote:
If that 1st game was any indication of San's form,
I'm going to be 4/4 on Liquibets for the day. Gogogo
right there with you =/
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On July 22 2015 21:55 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 Kaizor wrote:
If that 1st game was any indication of San's form,
I'm going to be 4/4 on Liquibets for the day. Gogogo dang it, I picked Symbol over Hurricane what a fool
I didn't catch the games but the score seems to imply that it was close.
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On July 22 2015 21:57 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:55 Ej_ wrote:On July 22 2015 21:54 c0ldfusion wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 Kaizor wrote:
If that 1st game was any indication of San's form,
I'm going to be 4/4 on Liquibets for the day. Gogogo dang it, I picked Symbol over Hurricane what a fool I didn't catch the games but the score seems to imply that it was close.
Symbol won on Iron Fortress and with a spine rush
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On July 22 2015 21:57 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". Weren't you in the DH LR thread basically saying that Fantasy losing in his worst matchup to a teammate proved he's overrated?
Excuses, so many excuses ...
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WTF was that?
Has San never played against mines before?
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Katowice25012 Posts
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mega damage. praise terran
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How can you not react to that? wtf
well he did but it was too late
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Ha, these are probably the best windowmine hits I've ever seen.
Edit: Except for the ones from ForGG vs. Stephano.
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I don't understand.
Fanta _always_ goes mines. Always. WTF San?
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On July 22 2015 21:58 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:57 Elentos wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". Weren't you in the DH LR thread basically saying that Fantasy losing in his worst matchup to a teammate proved he's overrated? Excuses, so many excuses ...
yeah Fantasy is basically trash, so many better Terrans around, like Bravo or Skyhigh :/
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
That player in the studio with his girlfriend is Parting or is he just putting attention on himself? (I've missed the shot on the player actually)
THOSE MINES! oO
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Bravo is actually not bad.
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On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer".
Would have possibly gone higher if Hyun didn't pull a bitch move.
Edit: Nvm mixed up valencia with tours.
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Fantasy really doesn't like probes
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Conscientious objector mine.
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On July 22 2015 22:01 Heartland wrote:
Fantasy really doesn't like probes
Probes and nexus. All Terrans like destroying them.
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San that dirty cheeser gets exactly what he deserves.
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On July 22 2015 22:01 Heartland wrote:
Fantasy really doesn't like probes
Ninja probe! It's a prove of evolution. You massacre probes with mines so long that then one of the probes evolves in a ninja probe. Abathur would be proud, Fantasy!
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Matchfixer makes Fantasy look good :D
User was banned for this post.
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San is trying to make this look rigged. Wtf is he doing?
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On July 22 2015 22:03 deacon.frost wrote:Ninja probe! It's a prove of evolution. You massacre probes with mines so long that then one of the probes evolves in a ninja probe. Abathur would be proud, Fantasy!
Probes are just mechanical kittens
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San gonna go down 0-3 just like in KeSPA Cup and SSL Challenger :/
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On July 22 2015 21:54 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right?
If anything flash is underhyped these days.
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On July 22 2015 22:04 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:54 deacon.frost wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right? If anything flash is underhyped these days.
Flash hype yo-yos like the public perception of FFVII
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Great, missed the only series I was interested in because of a power outage and now all I get from this series is San playing like shit.
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On July 22 2015 22:03 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 22:03 deacon.frost wrote:On July 22 2015 22:01 Heartland wrote:
Fantasy really doesn't like probes Ninja probe! It's a prove of evolution. You massacre probes with mines so long that then one of the probes evolves in a ninja probe. Abathur would be proud, Fantasy! Probes are just mechanical kittens
That can do evolution! Protoss technology stronk!
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is he going to defend against mines this time?
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On July 22 2015 22:04 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 21:54 deacon.frost wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right? If anything flash is underhyped these days.
Lets wait for the hype train #9151059151
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On July 22 2015 22:05 Roadog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 22:04 Scarecrow wrote:On July 22 2015 21:54 deacon.frost wrote:On July 22 2015 21:53 opisska wrote:Bascially he's pretty good in qualifiers? Ro16 GSL is at least something, that I have to admit. But "top8 DH Valencia" is the equivalent of "did not go full foreginer". So by that definition is Flash so overhyped it's not even nice, right? If anything flash is underhyped these days. Flash hype yo-yos like the public perception of FFVII
I liked FFVI always more anyways, I guess thats a metaphor for Bisu? ._.
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Somebody needs to do a poll on whether Fantasy is going to drop mines this game.
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On July 22 2015 22:07 Kaizor wrote:
Somebody needs to do a poll on whether Fantasy is going to drop mines this game.
Poll: Mines?Yes (7) 88% Nah (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Mines? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): Nah
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On July 22 2015 22:07 Kaizor wrote:
Somebody needs to do a poll on whether Fantasy is going to drop mines this game.
More likely on how many probes will die to mines - 20/40/60/infinity/infinity + 20
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If the game goes on for that long ...
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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if this was anybody but San I'd be worried about betting line bs
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WTF?! Well this escalated quickly.
Clump those probes, San, channel the flame through them!
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Picking up the SCVs for transfer was soooo cooool =D
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this is some sexiness from Fanta
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Cool medivac micro from Fantasy to save the units !
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Okay, uhh so this is over now, huh?
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san got stomped into the ground this series
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I like how the observer is picking up more of the action than San is... I mean....
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I have no idea why Artosis likes San so much. He must like Cheese and all-ins.
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This is worse than Prime vs. XY
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this is some seriously good observing man... so good
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That oracle detection range is pretty sick.
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that was a bad Code A day
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San did not show up to play.
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San looking like "old San".
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Thrilling climax to the day.
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So onesided, wp FanTaSy!
Flash, Stork and Fanta in Code S? Hype!
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On July 22 2015 22:14 Ej_ wrote:
that was a bad Code A day
How was Sacsri vs Cure? No polls in the OP :S
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On July 22 2015 22:14 Roadog wrote:
Thrilling climax to the day.
at least we saw sexy defense from Fanta
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This is crazy how bad San and jjakji became. One of the most one-sided series ever.
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Thats a slump if i ever saw one. Probably about as worse as Prime's performance in Proleague this year.
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On July 22 2015 22:15 Elentos wrote:How was Sacsr vs Cure? No polls in the OP :S
pretty good actually.
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San looking like the San that blocked his own Nexus.
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Well, atleast tomorrow we will have a great SSSL group, didn't they say they have a like oldschool intro for all the players like in the BW days this time? Can't wait!
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how come Moonglade doesn't tell us that he loves us?
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So if we take KeSPA Cup, S2SL and Code A into consideration... San doesn't have a good matchup, I guess?
On July 22 2015 22:17 c0ldfusion wrote:
how come Moonglade doesn't tell us that he loves us?
That's the job of Sunglade.
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On July 22 2015 22:16 Arvendilin wrote:
Well, atleast tomorrow we will have a great SSSL group, didn't they say they have a like oldschool intro for all the players like in the BW days this time? Can't wait!
Those guys are absolutely on point with the production.
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On July 22 2015 22:15 Elentos wrote:How was Sacsri vs Cure? No polls in the OP :S
Very lacklustre op work today
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why there is no S2SL tomorrow in calendar? who is playing? ?!?!?
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On July 22 2015 22:18 repomaniak wrote:
why there is no S2SL tomorrow in calendar? who is playing? ?!?!?
Stats - ByuL
Maru - Zest
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Damn, Fantasy looked awesome. Sure, San looked pretty weak, but Fantasy still made that a delicious series.
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fantasy with those marine pick ups in the main was just out of this world
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On July 22 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 22:18 repomaniak wrote:
why there is no S2SL tomorrow in calendar? who is playing? ?!?!? Stats - ByuL Maru - Zest
holy shit cant wait. MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Cure is looking to be your next gsl champion. Ezpz
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On July 23 2015 06:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Cure is looking to be your next gsl champion. Ezpz
I guess we all have our dreams that don't come true.
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On July 23 2015 06:08 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Cure is looking to be your next gsl champion. Ezpz I guess we all have our dreams that don't come true.
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On July 23 2015 06:17 Alucen-Will- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:08 Elentos wrote:On July 23 2015 06:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Cure is looking to be your next gsl champion. Ezpz I guess we all have our dreams that don't come true.
I really like Cure but for him to become a GSL champ, he not only has to get back into his 2014 season 3 form but also get a bracket that allows him to avoid a lot of players who'd beat him even in that form.
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On July 23 2015 06:25 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 06:17 Alucen-Will- wrote:On July 23 2015 06:08 Elentos wrote:On July 23 2015 06:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Cure is looking to be your next gsl champion. Ezpz I guess we all have our dreams that don't come true. I really like Cure but for him to become a GSL champ, he not only has to get back into his 2014 season 3 form but also get a bracket that allows him to avoid a lot of players who'd beat him even in that form.
Yeah of course. I'm just hoping to see him back in his best form. Even if it's just ro16/ro8 I love him lol.
Nice to see that Flash/Cure seem to be playing better these days ^.^ makes me happy
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Sorry if I a little of topic. I am in Asia now and want to go to Seoul and watch some sc2 during the first week of august. But no matter how hard I try, I cant seem to be able to find a schedule for august. It is only one week away so I vant imagine there not existing one by now. Can someone please help? I have to decide which days to go to Seoul and by plane tickets.
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