★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
33%
★★★- Good game (7)
58%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
35%
★★★- Good game (7)
41%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
24%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
23%
★★★- Good game (13)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
19%
26 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (8)
89%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
67%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 21 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote: 2 first matches seem KT favored while the next 2 seem CJ favored. Could go to the ace. Or maybe Flash makes the train roll again ?
Oh fuck the train stopped after Flash making top 4 in KeSPA Cup and making Code S last week? What's the delay, I'm waiting at the station, yo!
On July 21 2015 20:43 [PkF] Wire wrote: 2 first matches seem KT favored while the next 2 seem CJ favored. Could go to the ace. Or maybe Flash makes the train roll again ?
Oh fuck the train stopped after Flash making top 4 in KeSPA Cup and making Code S last week? What's the delay, I'm waiting at the station, yo!
You're right ! Train is still rolling and it's up to herO to see if today is the stop.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
33%
★★★- Good game (7)
58%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
lol kt protoss having trouble in PvP? please. Stats may have fallen off a cliff recently but the KT protoss have been the best in the world in this matchup for the last few months (minus Zest's Creator kryptonite)
On July 21 2015 21:11 Heartland wrote: How many times will Wolf and co bash Stats for this mistake?
Hopefully a few more times... how do you forget thermal lance in PvP or PvAnything, for that matter...
It doesn't work unless you are sOs. Or maybe Has, but I am not sure that Has can play long enough to get to Colossi with range Also that's too mainstream for Has
But I think trust would have won it even with Stats not forgetting colossus range. He had a 4th up and longer double robo production (way more immortals)
On July 21 2015 21:12 dazed25 wrote: lol kt protoss having trouble in PvP? please. Stats may have fallen off a cliff recently but the KT protoss have been the best in the world in this matchup for the last few months (minus Zest's Creator kryptonite)
I don't think Wolf watches anything except Korean offline games, and not all of them
On July 21 2015 21:12 dazed25 wrote: lol kt protoss having trouble in PvP? please. Stats may have fallen off a cliff recently but the KT protoss have been the best in the world in this matchup for the last few months (minus Zest's Creator kryptonite)
Well They have a PvP Savant and a super overperformer (didn't not overperfom today ) That's 40% of the relevant protosses other 3 being Classic Parting and Rain. (If you say herO you haven't seen his pvz recently)
On July 21 2015 21:12 dazed25 wrote: lol kt protoss having trouble in PvP? please. Stats may have fallen off a cliff recently but the KT protoss have been the best in the world in this matchup for the last few months (minus Zest's Creator kryptonite)
I don't think Wolf watches anything except Korean offline games, and not all of them
On July 21 2015 21:15 Silvana wrote: ugh Stats having an off day
but now we're kinda fucked... no I don't have faith in Life, but I hope he proves me wrong!
Life has been more agressive since joining KT. I rofled so hard. Oh crap I was quoting someone. Life has a really low chance to win here. If KT was 0-2 he would almost certainly win tho motivation to look cool and all I guess they can also bribe him by promisng to fly him somewhere.
Yeah Wolf got that wrong, it's the other way around. But now he seems to go back to his root and he is more aggressive again, he withstood the KT brainwash.
On July 21 2015 21:22 PooLsharK wrote: Does anyone know, if there's an alternative twitch chat for proleague? Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.
On July 21 2015 21:22 PooLsharK wrote: Does anyone know, if there's an alternative twitch chat for proleague? Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
35%
★★★- Good game (7)
41%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
24%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
35%
★★★- Good game (7)
41%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
24%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 21 2015 21:22 PooLsharK wrote: Does anyone know, if there's an alternative twitch chat for proleague? Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.
Well there's the Azubu chat
which today seems to consist of people sharing kpop idol pics.
On July 21 2015 21:22 PooLsharK wrote: Does anyone know, if there's an alternative twitch chat for proleague? Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.
Well there's the Azubu chat
which today seems to consist of people sharing kpop idol pics.
and fuck yeah life
Way higher quality than anything that happens in Twitch chat.
On July 21 2015 21:22 PooLsharK wrote: Does anyone know, if there's an alternative twitch chat for proleague? Sorry if this has been asked/answered before.
Well there's the Azubu chat
which today seems to consist of people sharing kpop idol pics.
ain't nothing wrong with that, as long as those are pictures of Choa
On July 21 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote: Dem ads are so wtf I don't even
Those ads are insanely good compared to what America shows to me when I watch NFL.
You're clearly no ready for some football then.
I'm not ready for amount of insurance and food ads. Movies ads are just cringeworthy though, they're good.
I get about all the NFL ads I need come superbowl time, but I'll sit and see when I go back to my parents for dinner or something, the are obnoxious, and so constant.
On July 21 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote: Dem ads are so wtf I don't even
Those ads are insanely good compared to what America shows to me when I watch NFL.
You're clearly no ready for some football then.
I'm not ready for amount of insurance and food ads. Movies ads are just cringeworthy though, they're good.
I get about all the NFL ads I need come superbowl time, but I'll sit and see when I go back to my parents for dinner or something, the are obnoxious, and so constant.
This is literally mirror game from round 3 from Flash anyway. Flash 3 cc stim timing but last time he caught blink stalkers in the middle of the map. herO then cannot move and Flash wins macro game xD
On July 21 2015 21:26 OtherWorld wrote: Dem ads are so wtf I don't even
Those ads are insanely good compared to what America shows to me when I watch NFL.
You're clearly no ready for some football then.
I'm not ready for amount of insurance and food ads. Movies ads are just cringeworthy though, they're good.
US has the worst ads
My dad had a pretty good ad for his ad agency when he was still working, it said, "Our Accountant will kiss your ass until it is white as a soda cracker."
Another one was.
"Bright, young ad agency seeks big dull account to fleece."
On July 21 2015 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote: Flash should have killed that third, there's no reason to allow herO to have it. If that dies, herO dies to an SCV pull. Weak decision from Flash.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
23%
★★★- Good game (13)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
19%
26 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 21 2015 21:43 OtherWorld wrote: SCV pull good strat, how innovative
Don't be too salty about it
But Flash was allowed to do what he wanted basically. It was a helluva lot more impressive when Flash did beat herO in last round of PL on the same map w/o the boys pull though.
On July 21 2015 21:45 [PkF] Wire wrote: It's not over, Zest can have shaky PvT
Bbyong is one of the few top terrans that don't have a winning record against Zest so chances are not so good. I guess being a tricky player isn't that useful versus one of the most intelligent players ever
On July 21 2015 21:45 [PkF] Wire wrote: It's not over, Zest can have shaky PvT
Bbyong is one of the few top terrans that don't have a winning record against Zest so chances are not so good. I guess being a tricky player isn't that useful versus one of the most intelligent players ever
Yeah pretty much. I would be surprised if Zest loses here.
Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
Well Maru into losing has been very popular recently.
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
is that the style he used against dream last time? before he got caught off guard and died to a terrible engagement.
On July 21 2015 21:43 Deathstar wrote: It's too hard to be a CJ fan. Has to be as difficult as being a Jin Air fan.
Which is why you changed you flair, eh?
herO underperforming killed my passion T_T
struggles of supporting a one man team (maybe one and a half if you include post gsl byul)
Rofl You call CJ a one-man team while you just saw a B-teamer beat one the KT big four and potential KT ace, you call CJ a one-man team while they used 3 different aces across the season, all of them somewhat equally? Please.
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
Well Maru into losing has been very popular recently.
I think that style is specifically tailored towards dealing with Maru. He did it on Deadwing as well against him and did fairly well from an early deficit, then got a bit unlucky not spotting a big drop with any of his obs. The build itself though I think is really flexible and strong.
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
is that the style he used against dream last time? before he got caught off guard and died to a terrible engagement.
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
That sounds as if he'd get crushed vs Flash's macro style of PvT
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
all of them practicing hard in anticipation of ZParcraft
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
True that. I was refering to the 1 year of Toss Dominance in Premier Tourneys 2014 and the huge variety of bullshit build orders. You have to agree that Toss has more BS to choose from (2-3 oracles into void rays, DT stuff, Cannonrush, Blink allin that had a way too high success rate etc etc...)
On July 21 2015 21:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: Really curious to see if Zest is gonna try his most recent PvT style again. He takes a very fast third and skips upgrades for a while to stay on a really high colossus/stalker count and defend his bases vs mass drops, then when he's stabilized on his three bases he adds a lot of tech and production at once.
I think it's a very very smart style with lots of potential, but only if your opponent plays a doom dropping style. Don't think it's that good vs standard bio/viking terran.
That sounds as if he'd get crushed vs Flash's macro style of PvT
Yes, it would get crushed by that. It relies a lot on scouting and figuring out what type of style the terran plays.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously. It's their only choice poor things.
Wolf seems to have no idea that the standard way to follow up a reaper into double barracks is to always take your scv's off gas @50 gas for the reactor
>.>
Terran's have done this build about 20 million times over the last few years
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
True that. I was refering to the 1 year of Toss Dominance in Premier Tourneys 2014 and the huge variety of bullshit build orders. You have to agree that Toss has more BS to choose from (2-3 oracles into void rays, DT stuff, Cannonrush, Blink allin that had a way too high success rate etc etc...)
David Kim should introduce Night Elves as the 4th race, and further overlap the Warcraft Universe with the Starcraft Universe a la Marvel Comics.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously. It's their only choice poor things.
You don't need style to play Protoss. You need Swag.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously. It's their only choice poor things.
You don't need style to play Protoss. You need Swag.
No you need style to play protoss. You need swag to actually be good at it.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
On July 21 2015 22:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh 3rax, interesting. Haven't seen that in a while, it's quite out of metagame favor
Most straight bio players like to go 3rd cc before 2nd + 3rd barracks in the modern meta if they don't open factory
3CC is just a very very greedy option, 3rax used to be the standard before factory openings got popular. It's still not bad, just out of the metagame. This is a strong push from Bbyong, Zest has no idea
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
Don't have the mechanics to play zerg or the style to play protoss obviously. It's their only choice poor things.
You don't need style to play Protoss. You need Swag.
No you need style to play protoss. You need swag to actually be good at it.
On July 21 2015 21:44 Firkraag8 wrote: scv allins ruin an otherwise excellent matchup, they're not fun to watch at all.
After years of birng Blink allins and other BS strats, I am happy that Terran can do some bullshit too
You make it sound like terran hasn't had their fair share of controversial builds either.
Terran has never been abusive ever.
Poor Terrans should all get medals of honor, always suffering the other races' bullshit like that without possibility to retaliate. Makes you wonder why there are still people playing Terran out there.
because terran is the only proper race
I always knew Terrans were dirty racists deep inside
On July 21 2015 22:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh 3rax, interesting. Haven't seen that in a while, it's quite out of metagame favor
Most straight bio players like to go 3rd cc before 2nd + 3rd barracks in the modern meta if they don't open factory
3CC is just a very very greedy option, 3rax used to be the standard before factory openings got popular. It's still not bad, just out of the metagame. This is a strong push from Bbyong, Zest has no idea
3cc isn't really as greedy as most people imply b/c a lot of korean protoss open stargate for oracle/phoenix to defend mine drop harass. + if your opponent opens robo you are completely fine.
Blink all-in's can be scouted anyway. And most terran's won't go fast cc on maps that are blink-able
On July 21 2015 22:12 Alucen-Will- wrote: Zest was able to afford templars + double forge that early
He shut down everything => Bbyong HAS to invest into double starport to catch up. He can't doom drop, he lost his initial medivacs. Zest is playing this perfectly.
Zest maxed out army control in this matchup is always so damn good. I think he's the best player I've seen at ALWAYS targeting vikings w/his stalker immediately
On July 21 2015 22:14 Alucen-Will- wrote: Zest maxed out army control in this matchup is always so damn good. I think he's the best player I've seen at ALWAYS targeting vikings w/his stalker immediately
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★- Good game (8)
89%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
67%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend CJ vs KT Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 21 2015 22:14 Alucen-Will- wrote: Zest maxed out army control in this matchup is always so damn good. I think he's the best player I've seen at ALWAYS targeting vikings w/his stalker immediately
*cough*PartinG*cough*
I think Zest is actually better in controlling maxed out 200/200 army's.
PartinG is better at everything else in terms of micro though
On July 21 2015 22:14 Alucen-Will- wrote: Zest maxed out army control in this matchup is always so damn good. I think he's the best player I've seen at ALWAYS targeting vikings w/his stalker immediately
*cough*PartinG*cough*
PartinG is nowhere near Zest in army control, except when only Stalkers and Sentries are involved
On July 21 2015 22:15 DarkLordOlli wrote: Great game by Zest. That was rock solid.
Pretty sure many more things he could have done after scouting the incoming 3 rax semi timing from Bbyong to not donate 15 probes If Bbyong makes his 3rd CC in his base he doesn't cancel it and is behind? Hugely
On July 21 2015 22:14 Alucen-Will- wrote: Zest maxed out army control in this matchup is always so damn good. I think he's the best player I've seen at ALWAYS targeting vikings w/his stalker immediately
*cough*PartinG*cough*
PartinG is nowhere near Zest in army control, except when only Stalkers and Sentries are involved
Nah, PartinG is the best player in the world at controlling almost any army, I just think Zest is best with a completely maxed out army. He's exceptional at always target firing things and keeping colossus alive for as long as possible.
I remember in the KeSPA cup this year FanTaSy dropped 4 medivacs full of bio on Zest's Colossus army and he only lost one because he microed his army so perfectly.
On July 21 2015 22:14 Alucen-Will- wrote: Zest maxed out army control in this matchup is always so damn good. I think he's the best player I've seen at ALWAYS targeting vikings w/his stalker immediately
*cough*PartinG*cough*
Parting most of the times doesn't max out.....he is crushing the terran way before that.
On July 21 2015 22:15 DarkLordOlli wrote: Great game by Zest. That was rock solid.
Pretty sure many more things he could have done after scouting the incoming 3 rax semi timing from Bbyong to not donate 15 probes If Bbyong makes his 3rd CC in his base he doesn't cancel it and is behind? Hugely
He has to lose the probes or he loses his nexus and army and dies. He scouted the 3rax when it was halfway across the map and held it convincingly.
On July 21 2015 22:15 DarkLordOlli wrote: Great game by Zest. That was rock solid.
Pretty sure many more things he could have done after scouting the incoming 3 rax semi timing from Bbyong to not donate 15 probes If Bbyong makes his 3rd CC in his base he doesn't cancel it and is behind? Hugely
He has to lose the probes or he loses his nexus and army and dies. He scouted the 3rax when it was halfway across the map and held it convincingly.
basically yes, Bbyong knows he pretty much wins the game if he kills the nexus so he took the chance. If Zest holds, then he has a pretty nice advantage.
Interesting to note about Bbyong's build: he actually didn't build an ebay or starport and instead invested all of his economic resources into marines/marauders and an 8:30 third base. So his 9:30 timing was stronger than normally and also decently economic.
I'm not a fan of it though; Why would you try to invest all those resources into killing the nexus and also get a third base that early..?
On July 21 2015 22:19 yoshi245 wrote: Bummer no interview, was curious to see who'd go up to get the interview too.
There'd be an argument for all 3 of KT's players, too. Life beat ByuL, Flash beat herO, CJ's ace players, and then Zest got into the top of the winner rankings.
On July 21 2015 22:19 Ej_ wrote: Reminder to everyone who thinks they are bad at FPL: Wolf once had negative score
did he put solar on his main team 5 times or what? oh i bet he put the entire KT roster on his anti.
He had either Flash or MarineKing on anti and they both won that week; as well as having a bunch of players on his main who didn't get fielded that week.
On July 21 2015 22:18 Shinta) wrote: Bbyong just too cheesy of a player... can't make decent decisions in the later game. 1 all in total failure is enough to throw a game you're winning.
Cheese or no chesse, if that Nexus snipe is succesfull Bbyong would have been a much better position...he didn't trew the game he just didn't react accordingly when the opportunity came...Zest deserved to win!!!
On July 21 2015 22:19 Ej_ wrote: Reminder to everyone who thinks they are bad at FPL: Wolf once had negative score
did he put solar on his main team 5 times or what? oh i bet he put the entire KT roster on his anti.
He had either Flash or MarineKing on anti and they both won that week; as well as having a bunch of players on his main who didn't get fielded that week.
Well pretty sure a few teams are at - after this first play week due to Jin air getting beat and Maru too.
On July 21 2015 22:19 Ej_ wrote: Reminder to everyone who thinks they are bad at FPL: Wolf once had negative score
I assume he goes by gut feel and personal favorites rather than the best value per point. Bizarre to be so bad at predicting a league where you cast every game.
On July 21 2015 22:23 c0ldfusion wrote: man, those of you who are good at FPL, how do you guys do it?
honestly the only season i was able to sniff top 10 was because my players actually performed in the first week (their value shot up) and i was able to trade them over the following weeks depending on their matchups and which teams they were playing. if your players let you down or there are upsets (Stats pls) then their value drops and it's much harder to trade them
this round i had stats on my main (after originally having flash) and then traded curious and sbenu to fit leenock and jinair. so many regrets ;_;
On July 21 2015 22:19 Ej_ wrote: Reminder to everyone who thinks they are bad at FPL: Wolf once had negative score
I assume he goes by gut feel and personal favorites rather than the best value per point. Bizarre to be so bad at predicting a league where you cast every game.
how dare you question someone with the access to players eyes and body language over actual gameplay?!
On July 21 2015 22:19 Ej_ wrote: Reminder to everyone who thinks they are bad at FPL: Wolf once had negative score
I assume he goes by gut feel and personal favorites rather than the best value per point. Bizarre to be so bad at predicting a league where you cast every game.
how dare you question someone with the access to players eyes and body language over actual gameplay?!
sadly i'm lacking in the kind of tilt and hair analytics that wolf specializes in
Conclusion for CJ vs KT: 1.Stats got cocky ,overconfident,sloppy and did shit.Trust played good and won on his own merit. 2.Life is Life: agression is what he does best. 3.Today Flash showed how to macro, if you get unpunished for your greed (calculated greed cause he scouted well) and do a really nice scv pull.Crushed herO. 4.Zest got a bit lucky by not losing that Nexus then .....well it's Zest in a good day so near perfect defence and army control.. KT is looking good!!!!!!
On July 21 2015 23:08 Ctesias wrote: KT looking great today. Happy to see it.
I mean, Stats build 8 colossi from double robo and forgot range and lost for it, and Life's game was... special; but yeah, KT was pretty good today.
Stats would have lost with range too
Yeah that's true I guess, and nothing in that game really went Stats's way to begin with. But hey, with range at least the laz0rs would have looked moar epic.
On July 22 2015 02:55 Fuell wrote: losing to flash rofl hero
herO probably only got back from Shenzhen the day before his match plus Flash does pretty well in SPL half the time and definitely had more time to prepare than herO did.
On July 22 2015 02:55 Fuell wrote: losing to flash rofl hero
herO probably only got back from Shenzhen the day before his match plus Flash does pretty well in SPL half the time and definitely had more time to prepare than herO did.
Not to mention Flash is definitely on a roll these days...
wow Stats with such a strange mistake. Life back to his roots? Would be best Life, screw this macro shit. Flash strategy: 1. baracks 2. scouts: if no agression, quick 3CC into macro steamroll.
What a good day. Overrated kids like Stats, herO, Byul and Bbyong lost. Thats good. I am tired of people saying how good they are just because they got lucky a few times in some tournaments
On July 22 2015 12:18 swag_bro wrote: What a good day. Overrated kids like Stats, herO, Byul and Bbyong lost. Thats good. I am tired of people saying how good they are just because they got lucky a few times in some tournaments
On July 22 2015 12:18 swag_bro wrote: What a good day. Overrated kids like Stats, herO, Byul and Bbyong lost. Thats good. I am tired of people saying how good they are just because they got lucky a few times in some tournaments
Thank goodness for you swag_bro, you'd never do that to us. D:
On July 22 2015 12:18 swag_bro wrote: What a good day. Overrated kids like Stats, herO, Byul and Bbyong lost. Thats good. I am tired of people saying how good they are just because they got lucky a few times in some tournaments
Thank goodness for you swag_bro, you'd never do that to us. D:
swag_bro is like me in my most aggressive TL LR mode, on days when I'm in an abrasive mood.
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