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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
June 28 2015 22:22 GMT
#3621
On June 29 2015 07:21 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:19 sharkie wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:18 Musicus wrote:
This is remarkable.



Foreigner losing to Korean, whats remarkable about it?

No what's remarkable is his record vs non-Hydra


Bunny vs Forgg and Bunny vs Stardust is tons more remarkable...


lilbow would have destroyed ForGG this weekend (even Gungfu did), beating ForGG is not remarkable just because he is Korean.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 28 2015 22:22 GMT
#3622
On June 29 2015 07:21 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:19 sharkie wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:18 Musicus wrote:
This is remarkable.

https://twitter.com/_Borsti/status/615282807758303233


Foreigner losing to Korean, whats remarkable about it?

No what's remarkable is his record vs non-Hydra


Bunny vs Forgg and Bunny vs Stardust is tons more remarkable...

ForGG and StarDust played like foreigners in these series though
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 22:23:26
June 28 2015 22:22 GMT
#3623
On June 29 2015 07:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On June 29 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
Congrats Hydra, might be the best Zerg right now.

In wcs, sure.
Overall? No way

I wouldn't say he's far off though, I mean the Korean Zergs aren't very impressive right now. Byul is probably better, but I'd say Hydra is top 5 for sure.

Hard to say anyway, we will see at Blizzcon maybe.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 28 2015 22:23 GMT
#3624
On June 29 2015 07:21 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:19 sharkie wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:18 Musicus wrote:
This is remarkable.

https://twitter.com/_Borsti/status/615282807758303233


Foreigner losing to Korean, whats remarkable about it?

No what's remarkable is his record vs non-Hydra


Bunny vs Forgg and Bunny vs Stardust is tons more remarkable...

Like I said yesterday, Geronimo33 would have beaten the ForGG we saw this weekend.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 28 2015 22:23 GMT
#3625
On June 29 2015 07:15 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
In all seriousness does this mean we could actually get TWO nonkoreans at Blizzcon? Bunny and Lilbow will likely go to all of the events left that give points and are 2 of the best players in WCS


Or zero.


I sincerely hope after 2 ro4 finishes at least bunny makes it in. That would be so ridiculous if he didn't

Sometimes being the top foreigner isn't enough though.

I'd like it to be that way. When Naniwa made it to BC 2 years ago, he had to defeat YugiOh, MC,(TLO,SortOf), and Jaedong in Stockholm, STC, Jaedong and Dear in Anaheim, Hack, San and Hyun in New York, duckdeok and Innovation in Cologne... and after all of that he still didn't have enough points to make it without playing a tie-breaker match. It should be equally hard for Bunny/Lilbow to make BC this year I hope. If they get BC tickets without beating top koreans around the globe, it will be a stomp at Blizzcon.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 28 2015 22:23 GMT
#3626
On June 29 2015 07:22 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
Congrats Hydra, might be the best Zerg right now.

In wcs, sure.
Overall? No way

I wouldn't say he's far off though, I mean the Korean Zergs aren't very impressive right now. Byul is probably better, but I'd say Hydra is top 5 for sure.

I dunno, we have really no means to compare him to Life/ByuL/Dark/Rogue/soO/etc atm
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18742 Posts
June 28 2015 22:23 GMT
#3627
Beating any Korean in eliminations is remarkable regardless of form or matchup since foreigners very rarely do that
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 28 2015 22:24 GMT
#3628
On June 29 2015 07:23 sharkie wrote:
Beating any Korean in eliminations is remarkable regardless of form or matchup since foreigners very rarely do that

that's the dumbest thing I read today and I also saw my Aligulac ranking.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 28 2015 22:24 GMT
#3629
On June 29 2015 07:23 sharkie wrote:
Beating any Korean in eliminations is remarkable regardless of form or matchup since foreigners very rarely do that


Jim beat Life and Taeja before both went on to get top 4 and win Blizzcon
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 28 2015 22:24 GMT
#3630
On June 29 2015 07:22 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
Congrats Hydra, might be the best Zerg right now.

In wcs, sure.
Overall? No way

I wouldn't say he's far off though, I mean the Korean Zergs aren't very impressive right now. Byul is probably better, but I'd say Hydra is top 5 for sure.

Hard to say anyway, we will see at Blizzcon maybe.

Top 5? Maybe, but even there it's pretty hard to say tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 28 2015 22:24 GMT
#3631
On June 29 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
Congrats Hydra, might be the best Zerg right now.

Lets not overextend here. Byul, Life and co are still around and dangerous.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
June 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#3632
On June 29 2015 07:22 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
Congrats Hydra, might be the best Zerg right now.

In wcs, sure.
Overall? No way

I wouldn't say he's far off though, I mean the Korean Zergs aren't very impressive right now. Byul is probably better, but I'd say Hydra is top 5 for sure.

Hard to say anyway, we will see at Blizzcon maybe.


Life, ByuL, Rogue, Dark, soO are all a tier above imo.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#3633
i am nostradamus
The Bomber boy
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#3634
Life is struggling quite hard right now.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18742 Posts
June 28 2015 22:26 GMT
#3635
On June 29 2015 07:24 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:23 sharkie wrote:
Beating any Korean in eliminations is remarkable regardless of form or matchup since foreigners very rarely do that


Jim beat Life and Taeja before both went on to get top 4 and win Blizzcon


Yeah and that is way more impressive than Lilbow finishing top2 in this WCS
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 28 2015 22:26 GMT
#3636
On June 29 2015 07:15 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
In all seriousness does this mean we could actually get TWO nonkoreans at Blizzcon? Bunny and Lilbow will likely go to all of the events left that give points and are 2 of the best players in WCS


Or zero.


I sincerely hope after 2 ro4 finishes at least bunny makes it in. That would be so ridiculous if he didn't

Sometimes being the top foreigner isn't enough though.


Its not about whether he's a foreigner or not its about consistently being at the top of your region. For example, Bunny has had equal results in WCS as Stats has in GSL/SSL and far better results than Fantasy, Rogue, Dark, and Zest yet is just barely in the top 16.
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
June 28 2015 22:27 GMT
#3637
On June 29 2015 07:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:23 sharkie wrote:
Beating any Korean in eliminations is remarkable regardless of form or matchup since foreigners very rarely do that

that's the dumbest thing I read today and I also saw my Aligulac ranking.


I realized i spent way too much time in this thread today since I understood that reference.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 22:27:40
June 28 2015 22:27 GMT
#3638
On June 29 2015 07:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:15 D-light wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
In all seriousness does this mean we could actually get TWO nonkoreans at Blizzcon? Bunny and Lilbow will likely go to all of the events left that give points and are 2 of the best players in WCS


Or zero.


I sincerely hope after 2 ro4 finishes at least bunny makes it in. That would be so ridiculous if he didn't

Sometimes being the top foreigner isn't enough though.


Its not about whether he's a foreigner or not its about consistently being at the top of your region. For example, Bunny has had equal results in WCS as Stats has in GSL/SSL and far better results than Fantasy, Rogue, Dark, and Zest yet is just barely in the top 16.

Stats has never been in the GSL this year only the SSL!!! #SSLOP
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 22:33:59
June 28 2015 22:32 GMT
#3639
On June 29 2015 07:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:22 HolydaKing wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
Congrats Hydra, might be the best Zerg right now.

In wcs, sure.
Overall? No way

I wouldn't say he's far off though, I mean the Korean Zergs aren't very impressive right now. Byul is probably better, but I'd say Hydra is top 5 for sure.

Hard to say anyway, we will see at Blizzcon maybe.

Top 5? Maybe, but even there it's pretty hard to say tbh


I think it's debatable that Hydra is a strong enough Zerg to have decent results in GSL or StarLeague (ro16, ro8 ?), which put him easily in the same batch of players as ByuL, Curious, Life or Rogue. So top 5 quite plausible, but more 5th than 1st.

Hydra is the only player I could being able to play decently in Korea from this WCS season to be honest. With Polt semi-retired, WCS is weaker than ever.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 28 2015 22:33 GMT
#3640
On June 29 2015 07:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:15 D-light wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 29 2015 07:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
In all seriousness does this mean we could actually get TWO nonkoreans at Blizzcon? Bunny and Lilbow will likely go to all of the events left that give points and are 2 of the best players in WCS


Or zero.


I sincerely hope after 2 ro4 finishes at least bunny makes it in. That would be so ridiculous if he didn't

Sometimes being the top foreigner isn't enough though.


Its not about whether he's a foreigner or not its about consistently being at the top of your region. For example, Bunny has had equal results in WCS as Stats has in GSL/SSL and far better results than Fantasy, Rogue, Dark, and Zest yet is just barely in the top 16.

It's really about how you look at it though:
- Do you think being the best in your region should give you automatically a spot at blizzcon even if your region is WAY worse than other regions competing for spots.
- Or do you think Blizzcon should be for the best 16 players of the year.

I personally don't give a damn about foreigners being at blizzcon if they don't have any chance there regardless.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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