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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 26 2015 22:17 GMT
#2041
On June 27 2015 07:16 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:15 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:14 Aeromi wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:13 Ej_ wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:13 Alchemik wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:12 Ej_ wrote:
"There's no way Soulkey will 7pool on Alterzim again."

"there's no way Soulkey will roach/bane me again"

"There's no way Soulkey will keep all his mutas in the place that I scanned."

Nerchio is a jerk - Stephano

"TLO is creative" - Everyone


except TLO. Thus making him s creative for saying he's not creative.

I know somewhere TLO is having an aneurysm right now

"These fucking tl posters telling me I'm creative!

Fuck em' I'll show them what Kreativity is!"
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 26 2015 22:18 GMT
#2042
On June 27 2015 07:16 KillerDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:07 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:02 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


So you either take the chance of falling a little behind every game or just losing games outright?
I'd rather fall behind and try my best to win than autolose...


if I am ahead in 9 games out of 10 and lose 1 game in 10, I think it's an easy choice


Losing one game 100% is always bad...


Let's put in some numbers:

1/10 games you have a 0% chance to win (auto loss)
9/10 games you have X% chance to win.

If 0.9*x >= 0.5 you come out ahead. x = 5/9 = 55.56%

Then you need to decide if an extra 100 minerals gives you a 55.56% chance to win.


I'm too tired to actually analyze this but this math looks weird.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 22:21:17
June 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#2043
On June 27 2015 07:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:16 KillerDucky wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:07 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:02 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


So you either take the chance of falling a little behind every game or just losing games outright?
I'd rather fall behind and try my best to win than autolose...


if I am ahead in 9 games out of 10 and lose 1 game in 10, I think it's an easy choice


Losing one game 100% is always bad...


Let's put in some numbers:

1/10 games you have a 0% chance to win (auto loss)
9/10 games you have X% chance to win.

If 0.9*x >= 0.5 you come out ahead. x = 5/9 = 55.56%

Then you need to decide if an extra 100 minerals gives you a 55.56% chance to win.


I'm too tired to actually analyze this but this math looks weird.

It's math so = Right
Trust me I'm a physisist
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#2044
look at the masked desperation on Pethighschooldropoutsuses' face
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#2045
On June 27 2015 07:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:16 KillerDucky wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:07 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:02 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


So you either take the chance of falling a little behind every game or just losing games outright?
I'd rather fall behind and try my best to win than autolose...


if I am ahead in 9 games out of 10 and lose 1 game in 10, I think it's an easy choice


Losing one game 100% is always bad...


Let's put in some numbers:

1/10 games you have a 0% chance to win (auto loss)
9/10 games you have X% chance to win.

If 0.9*x >= 0.5 you come out ahead. x = 5/9 = 55.56%

Then you need to decide if an extra 100 minerals gives you a 55.56% chance to win.


I'm too tired to actually analyze this but this math looks weird.

I dunno, looks fine to me. Then I'm no mathematician.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 26 2015 22:19 GMT
#2046
I miss 6pools in ZvZ, sick times were had.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#2047
I miss Apollo casting
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
June 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#2048
On June 27 2015 07:16 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:15 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:14 Aeromi wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:13 Ej_ wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:13 Alchemik wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:12 Ej_ wrote:
"There's no way Soulkey will 7pool on Alterzim again."

"there's no way Soulkey will roach/bane me again"

"There's no way Soulkey will keep all his mutas in the place that I scanned."

Nerchio is a jerk - Stephano

"TLO is creative" - Everyone


except TLO. Thus making him s creative for saying he's not creative.

I know somewhere TLO is having an aneurysm right now


i am also saying tlo is not creative. he jsut tries around very much. i could also say "incosistency hidden under the coat of divergence"
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#2049
On June 27 2015 07:19 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:18 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:16 KillerDucky wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:07 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:02 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


So you either take the chance of falling a little behind every game or just losing games outright?
I'd rather fall behind and try my best to win than autolose...


if I am ahead in 9 games out of 10 and lose 1 game in 10, I think it's an easy choice


Losing one game 100% is always bad...


Let's put in some numbers:

1/10 games you have a 0% chance to win (auto loss)
9/10 games you have X% chance to win.

If 0.9*x >= 0.5 you come out ahead. x = 5/9 = 55.56%

Then you need to decide if an extra 100 minerals gives you a 55.56% chance to win.


I'm too tired to actually analyze this but this math looks weird.

I dunno, looks fine to me. Then I'm no mathematician.

As I said I'm too tired. To the point where only my passion keeps my awake because I can barely read this shit anymore t.t
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
June 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#2050
On June 27 2015 07:19 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:18 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:16 KillerDucky wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:07 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:02 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


So you either take the chance of falling a little behind every game or just losing games outright?
I'd rather fall behind and try my best to win than autolose...


if I am ahead in 9 games out of 10 and lose 1 game in 10, I think it's an easy choice


Losing one game 100% is always bad...


Let's put in some numbers:

1/10 games you have a 0% chance to win (auto loss)
9/10 games you have X% chance to win.

If 0.9*x >= 0.5 you come out ahead. x = 5/9 = 55.56%

Then you need to decide if an extra 100 minerals gives you a 55.56% chance to win.


I'm too tired to actually analyze this but this math looks weird.

It's math so = Right
Trust me I'm drunk

weow
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#2051
On June 27 2015 07:20 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:19 Lorning wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:18 Elentos wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:16 KillerDucky wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:07 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:03 Heartland wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:02 sharkie wrote:
On June 27 2015 06:58 Heartland wrote:
But seriously, do you guys not see the difference a 100 minerals do in the early game? Of course it's a trade-off, if you lose it doesn't matter, but if you waste a scout every game ever then you'll be behind. I mean, this is what Starcraft is about.


So you either take the chance of falling a little behind every game or just losing games outright?
I'd rather fall behind and try my best to win than autolose...


if I am ahead in 9 games out of 10 and lose 1 game in 10, I think it's an easy choice


Losing one game 100% is always bad...


Let's put in some numbers:

1/10 games you have a 0% chance to win (auto loss)
9/10 games you have X% chance to win.

If 0.9*x >= 0.5 you come out ahead. x = 5/9 = 55.56%

Then you need to decide if an extra 100 minerals gives you a 55.56% chance to win.


I'm too tired to actually analyze this but this math looks weird.

It's math so = Right
Trust me I'm drunk

weow

Why you underminig me
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
June 26 2015 22:21 GMT
#2052
Those are two damn handsome nerds.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 26 2015 22:21 GMT
#2053
On June 27 2015 07:19 Ej_ wrote:
I miss 6pools in ZvZ, sick times were had.

"i hope he doesnt see that i place my spine crawler on his creep"
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 26 2015 22:22 GMT
#2054
On June 27 2015 07:21 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:19 Ej_ wrote:
I miss 6pools in ZvZ, sick times were had.

"i hope he doesnt see that i place my spine crawler on his creep"

from Scarlett vs Jaedong, I learned that you don't have vision on all of your hatchery creep
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
June 26 2015 22:23 GMT
#2055
I'm interested to see JD's form, he really had looked much better in his WCS rounds than he was in fall of last year w/ all his traveling
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
June 26 2015 22:23 GMT
#2056
On June 27 2015 07:21 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:19 Ej_ wrote:
I miss 6pools in ZvZ, sick times were had.

"i hope he doesnt see that i place my spine crawler on his creep"

It may be the fact that i had a couple of beers or the fact that it's past midnight here
But am i the only one that sees a sex joke in this
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 26 2015 22:23 GMT
#2057
Holy shit, it feels like it's been a hour since lilbow's game... my "Jaedong game starts celebration" -beer is getting warm!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 26 2015 22:24 GMT
#2058
Can Paternostereus overcome JvZ?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 26 2015 22:24 GMT
#2059
Messioso run-in!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 26 2015 22:24 GMT
#2060
On June 27 2015 07:22 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 07:21 Paljas wrote:
On June 27 2015 07:19 Ej_ wrote:
I miss 6pools in ZvZ, sick times were had.

"i hope he doesnt see that i place my spine crawler on his creep"

from Scarlett vs Jaedong, I learned that you don't have vision on all of your hatchery creep

i recommend the following:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/218288-insane-zvz-earlypool-cheese
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