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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 03 2016 20:33 GMT
#121
Solar vs Forte now, should be a fun game
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
CannonKingPrime
Profile Joined August 2016
57 Posts
August 27 2016 00:41 GMT
#122
Are tonight's games going to be from replays again?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-27 00:46:48
August 27 2016 00:46 GMT
#123
On August 27 2016 09:41 CannonKingPrime wrote:
Are tonight's games going to be from replays again?

it says recap when you click on the event so I'm pretty sure that means it's a replay cast

tomorrow looks like the actual tournament event for NA
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CannonKingPrime
Profile Joined August 2016
57 Posts
August 27 2016 00:52 GMT
#124
Ah oops didn't see that, thanks.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
August 27 2016 01:35 GMT
#125
Correct! Doing replays tonight and live monthly finals are going to be tomorrow! EU finals are also happening on Sunday.
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
September 01 2016 02:26 GMT
#126
It's been a little while but BIG update. Ladder Heroes is going back to ranking players by POINTS rather than by MMR. After 2 months and a LOT of feedback from players, we decided we didn't want to rank players by mmr due to the loose activity requirements and the fact that the system incentives players to not play. While the point system has its own flaws, I hope it'll create a better competition regardless.

TRACK THE NEW STANDINGS OVER ON THE LADDER HEROES WEBSITE SINCE YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO USE GRANDMASTER IN GAME TO SEE THE STANDINGS!
http://www.ladderhero.es


This change is effective immediately and will affect all of September Ladder Heroes for both NA and EU.

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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
September 01 2016 11:02 GMT
#127
So after seeing your posts about the issue, I was kinda wondering about how to change the system for Ladder Heroes.

The "goal" of ladder heroes is to incentivize playing on NA/EU at a high level, right? The MMR change actually just hurt that goal, as it rewarded sitting at a certain MMR rank and not playing anymore.

Do you think it's possible to still use MMR, but give a bonus to games played? Say we take the MMR as a base rating, but for every game played you add something like 5 points? The number of points a game itself would be worth would have to be fiddled with, maybe, but it would encourage playing more games.

And heck, if someone wanted to play 300 games in order to gather points, well, goal achieved?
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
September 03 2016 07:23 GMT
#128
On September 01 2016 20:02 Rehio wrote:
So after seeing your posts about the issue, I was kinda wondering about how to change the system for Ladder Heroes.

The "goal" of ladder heroes is to incentivize playing on NA/EU at a high level, right? The MMR change actually just hurt that goal, as it rewarded sitting at a certain MMR rank and not playing anymore.

Do you think it's possible to still use MMR, but give a bonus to games played? Say we take the MMR as a base rating, but for every game played you add something like 5 points? The number of points a game itself would be worth would have to be fiddled with, maybe, but it would encourage playing more games.

And heck, if someone wanted to play 300 games in order to gather points, well, goal achieved?

I thought a lot about this. Was there something I could do with the MMR system with minimum games played or bonuses for games played. Ultimately all the systems I came up either felt like band aid solutions(create a minimum game requirement and that becomes the exact number of games players will play), or overly complex solutions(how motivating is a system is most players don't bother to understand it?).

I also didn't want to just straight reward games played because the system is meant to target and incentivize high level players who would otherwise practice on another server more often, thereby giving mid/lower tier player a trickle down benefit of better practice. I don't think points is a perfect system, but I think it is a better system than what I can come up with via MMR. I may also factor in additional changes in the coming months with the point system.
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
September 04 2016 16:57 GMT
#129
August Monthly finals starting in about an hour! Hope to see you all there!
https://www.twitch.tv/feardragon64/
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Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
September 04 2016 21:36 GMT
#130
This finals has been hilarious! TRUE and puCK are great at banter.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 26 2016 22:03 GMT
#131
Snute seems so good on the old maps.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3721 Posts
June 11 2017 22:44 GMT
#132
...the TRUE-MaSa finals was a really nice series to watch!
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
June 12 2017 07:14 GMT
#133
Easily one of my favorite series in recent memory.
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
June 07 2018 18:08 GMT
#134


Ladder Heroes is returning soon after a 6 month hiatus!
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hegemony
Profile Joined September 2016
27 Posts
June 07 2018 21:51 GMT
#135
Excited for NA scene to be getting more love! Also great commentating at WCS austin+quals. I really enjoy your enthusiasm and professionalism.
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