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On June 01 2015 05:52 SharkStarcraft wrote: well yea if you barely take out elfi youre gonna get crushed by a decent opponent. i guess jd is really jetlagged or something Even a mediocre protoss can take out much better zerg with the great book.
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why don't any of the european casters call him GungFuBanda? Banda...not panda lol. Also I'm not sure how Jaedong could have held that since he was denied scouting and was even shown a fake gas. I guess starting an early roach warren and just making spines in anticipation? i dont know
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On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason
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time for the 2 base blink all-in with prism
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On June 01 2015 05:53 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason
You're not holding that with just lings, never in a million years. You can stop it before it happens, killing pylons/the small army, but you can't clean it up once a few rounds are set up
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Full greed now.
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On June 01 2015 05:53 checkupriv wrote:no he just needed to play "safer" yes, a bad build
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On June 01 2015 05:53 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason
true, gungfubanda played like Jaedong would go for very late speed without zergling upgrades, but actually JD had speed and +1 attack, so this should not have worked, or atleast not end the game
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Zergs have been doing all kind of trickery since the SH patch Kaelaris.
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On June 01 2015 05:55 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:53 checkupriv wrote:On June 01 2015 05:51 Aocowns wrote:build order losses are fun  no he just needed to play "safer" yes, a bad build all zergs should open with 14 pool in every matchup ok
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On June 01 2015 05:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:53 Alchemik wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason You're not holding that with just lings, never in a million years. You can stop it before it happens, killing pylons/the small army, but you can't clean it up once a few rounds are set up that game was two very rare builds clashing, how can you say that with such confidence? unless you have experience with doing this melee build vs the exact same all-in Banda did
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Great defense from JD. Plz win this!
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PiG is good at controlling his voice. Or whatever you'd call it when you change pitch and rhythm in order to convey emotions and ideas.
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missed game1. how did jaedong lose?
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On June 01 2015 05:58 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 01 2015 05:53 Alchemik wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason You're not holding that with just lings, never in a million years. You can stop it before it happens, killing pylons/the small army, but you can't clean it up once a few rounds are set up that game was two very rare builds clashing, how can you say that with such confidence? unless you have experience with doing this melee build vs the exact same all-in Banda did
Because the melee upgrade won't prevent them from dying any slower. Speedlings alone regardless of the upgrade aren't going to beat that. Once it gets going, i.e. one maybe 2 full warp ins there's just too much there to kill the lings before having melee would even be helpful
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On June 01 2015 06:00 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: missed game1. how did jaedong lose?
7-gate vs no roaches
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On June 01 2015 06:00 Heartland wrote: PiG is good at controlling his voice. Or whatever you'd call it when you change pitch and rhythm in order to convey emotions and ideas.
modulating?
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On June 01 2015 05:58 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 01 2015 05:53 Alchemik wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason You're not holding that with just lings, never in a million years. You can stop it before it happens, killing pylons/the small army, but you can't clean it up once a few rounds are set up that game was two very rare builds clashing, how can you say that with such confidence? unless you have experience with doing this melee build vs the exact same all-in Banda did
Didn't Jaedong just use triple hatch gasles vs a Sangate? Didn't we see this for years?
*Oh a 7 gate, yea we've also seen that really often too.
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On June 01 2015 06:00 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: missed game1. how did jaedong lose? no RW vs 7gate
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On June 01 2015 06:01 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2015 05:58 Alchemik wrote:On June 01 2015 05:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 01 2015 05:53 Alchemik wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Ej_ wrote:On June 01 2015 05:52 Alchemik wrote: I still think JD could hold that had he not made some of the mistakes he did needed to start RW instead of lair and forgo the +1 carapace think you can hold that without roaches, at least the way Gungfubanda executed it. he just had 400 gas banked up at the end of the game and he invested into lair for no reason You're not holding that with just lings, never in a million years. You can stop it before it happens, killing pylons/the small army, but you can't clean it up once a few rounds are set up that game was two very rare builds clashing, how can you say that with such confidence? unless you have experience with doing this melee build vs the exact same all-in Banda did Didn't Jaedong just use triple hatch gasles vs a Sangate? Didn't we see this for years? *Oh a 7 gate, yea we've also seen that really often too. that wasn't triple hatch gasless, also 1 gas 7 or 8 gate is pretty rare on a high level
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