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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
May 29 2015 21:37 GMT
#1121
On May 30 2015 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Polt has never had great mechanics. He was just more efficient, had better tactical and strategic vision and has incredible composure.

There is no good foreigner that Polt can beat with pure mechanics.

Which players can beat Polt with mechanics alone?


herO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 29 2015 21:37 GMT
#1122
On May 30 2015 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Polt has never had great mechanics. He was just more efficient, had better tactical and strategic vision and has incredible composure.

There is no good foreigner that Polt can beat with pure mechanics.

Which players can beat Polt with mechanics alone?


That's a tricky question since Polt's entire plan is to drag the opposing player into a game of tactical and strategic might.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 29 2015 21:37 GMT
#1123
On May 30 2015 06:37 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Polt has never had great mechanics. He was just more efficient, had better tactical and strategic vision and has incredible composure.

There is no good foreigner that Polt can beat with pure mechanics.

Which players can beat Polt with mechanics alone?


herO


herO, PartinG, a lot of players in Korea certainly
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2015 21:38 GMT
#1124
On May 30 2015 06:37 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Polt has never had great mechanics. He was just more efficient, had better tactical and strategic vision and has incredible composure.

There is no good foreigner that Polt can beat with pure mechanics.

Which players can beat Polt with mechanics alone?


herO

MKP in WoL
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
May 29 2015 21:39 GMT
#1125
On May 30 2015 06:37 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:37 sharkie wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Polt has never had great mechanics. He was just more efficient, had better tactical and strategic vision and has incredible composure.

There is no good foreigner that Polt can beat with pure mechanics.

Which players can beat Polt with mechanics alone?


herO


herO, PartinG, a lot of players in Korea certainly

Implying Protoss beating Terran mostly has to do with their mechanical prowess. Fun times.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 29 2015 21:40 GMT
#1126
On May 30 2015 06:37 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Polt has never had great mechanics. He was just more efficient, had better tactical and strategic vision and has incredible composure.

There is no good foreigner that Polt can beat with pure mechanics.

Which players can beat Polt with mechanics alone?


That's a tricky question since Polt's entire plan is to drag the opposing player into a game of tactical and strategic might.

I wanted it to stimulate some degree or another of discussion, since he is probably my favourite player for reasons that were highlighted in the GOAT article.
kiss kiss fall in love
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 29 2015 21:42 GMT
#1127
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 29 2015 21:44 GMT
#1128
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

Yeah, I super agree with this. I was amazed that he somehow beat ForGG and Bunny last season.
But this is Polt. He's just weird, let's leave it at that.
If every other Terran in the world did mech, and even if there was some mathematical proof, he'd still build marines.
kiss kiss fall in love
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 21:46:57
May 29 2015 21:44 GMT
#1129
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats. IIRC his only TvT struggle recently was one Red Bull Bomber last year, and even those series were very close, while he's been having trouble with TvZ the last couple of months (despite god moding Hydra).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 21:48:15
May 29 2015 21:46 GMT
#1130
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

All this is making me remember how much I love macro tvt and don't like the gas first era
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
May 29 2015 21:51 GMT
#1131
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

Yeah he is.

For the record Polt has great TvT records against players like MMA and Bomber (being on even score with Bomber is great IMO) and bad records against INnoVation and Mvp.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 29 2015 21:53 GMT
#1132
On May 30 2015 06:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

Yeah he is.

For the record Polt has great TvT records against players like MMA and Bomber (being on even score with Bomber is great IMO) and bad records against INnoVation and Mvp.


Ah, so its the old Polt mech curse.

Even having decent records against MMA and Bomber in TvT is an accomplishment itself.


I want fall bio/tank goodness back :/
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2015 21:59 GMT
#1133
On May 30 2015 06:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

Yeah he is.

For the record Polt has great TvT records against players like MMA and Bomber (being on even score with Bomber is great IMO) and bad records against INnoVation and Mvp.

and bad record vs MKP but undefeated in series against Maru in their 1 meeting
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 29 2015 22:01 GMT
#1134
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

All this is making me remember how much I love macro tvt and don't like the gas first era

He crushed TaeJa 3-0 at a Red Bull finals last year as well, but something about his TvT feels off to me. Not too sure why. =/

Did he have a pretty glaring losing streak/rough patch in 2014 or something?
kiss kiss fall in love
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 29 2015 22:02 GMT
#1135
On May 30 2015 07:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

All this is making me remember how much I love macro tvt and don't like the gas first era

He crushed TaeJa 3-0 at a Red Bull finals last year as well, but something about his TvT feels off to me. Not too sure why. =/

Did he have a pretty glaring losing streak/rough patch in 2014 or something?


I don't remember exactly but he has a reputation of struggling against mech.

It's probably worth nothing he took same games off bomber in that redbull d.c. tournament (albeit bomber gave away one of those games, lol)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
May 29 2015 22:05 GMT
#1136
On May 30 2015 07:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

All this is making me remember how much I love macro tvt and don't like the gas first era

He crushed TaeJa 3-0 at a Red Bull finals last year as well, but something about his TvT feels off to me. Not too sure why. =/

Did he have a pretty glaring losing streak/rough patch in 2014 or something?

He did have a bit of a rough time in 2014 with his TvT, going on a bit of a losing streak, yeah, although his TvT was the only TvT in the WCS system matching Bomber's at the same time. So... his TvT doesn't make sense.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
May 29 2015 22:08 GMT
#1137
On May 30 2015 07:02 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 07:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:46 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 30 2015 06:42 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I won't lie always did find it a bit unusual that Polt's worst MU is TvT. I guess he just struggles in the gas first-stages of the game.

Who knows

It's his worst by a very small margin (1%) that probably harkens back to the days of GomTvT that fucked up everyone's TvT stats.


Thanks for the response. I don't remember, isn't he a solid Bio tank player?

All this is making me remember how much I love macro tvt and don't like the gas first era

He crushed TaeJa 3-0 at a Red Bull finals last year as well, but something about his TvT feels off to me. Not too sure why. =/

Did he have a pretty glaring losing streak/rough patch in 2014 or something?


I don't remember exactly but he has a reputation of struggling against mech.

It's probably worth nothing he took same games off bomber in that redbull d.c. tournament (albeit bomber gave away one of those games, lol)

Tbh, Terrans who never play mech will always struggle with beating mech with bio. Even people who have experience with both think mech is the stronger comp in TvT so it's understandable people would struggle against mech.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
May 29 2015 22:32 GMT
#1138
Go TLO! :D
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-30 00:04:08
May 30 2015 00:03 GMT
#1139
On May 30 2015 06:34 KelsierSC wrote:
I wonder what firecake does now SH are nerfed... will be interesting to see tomorrow, thread will probably explode though


I think I may have LB him as advancing forgetting SH weren't a thing. That really will be interesting

lol nvm Iaguz/Mana
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
May 30 2015 02:08 GMT
#1140
The old guard wins. Ggwp tlo!
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