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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#621
god i actually really want a baguette now
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#622
On May 29 2015 04:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:38 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:37 Topin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote:
it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order


Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo

EDIT Switched Huk out

even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure

that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure


Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me


I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament

Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2226 Posts
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#623
On May 29 2015 04:41 IceBerrY wrote:
Good job Lilbow.

Other than the games, is anybody else impressed by the production? I feel like they stepped it
even up. I enjoyed the little video clips at the beginning a lot and the new animations look great imo.


thats 10% production 90% PiG
Cogito, ergo Toss
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#624
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#625
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#626
On May 29 2015 04:43 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:37 Topin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote:
it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order


Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo

EDIT Switched Huk out

even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure

that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure


Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me


I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament

Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you


Jinro has an MLG gold I think it was from around the same time. And Jinro was always better than idra. It was kind of their thing
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2015 19:44 GMT
#627
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?
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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
May 28 2015 19:44 GMT
#628
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.


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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 28 2015 19:45 GMT
#629
On May 29 2015 04:43 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:37 Topin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote:
it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order


Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo

EDIT Switched Huk out

even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure

that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure


Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me


I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament

Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you


Not really. He won an MLG before those GSL runs though!

He stayed in GSL for a while after those ro4 runs, but it was back when it was very hard to fall out of code s.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 28 2015 19:45 GMT
#630
On May 29 2015 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?

the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#631
On May 29 2015 04:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?

the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it

make 3 lings able to kill 0/0 zealot
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#632
On May 29 2015 04:45 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:43 Aocowns wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:37 Topin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote:
it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order


Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo

EDIT Switched Huk out

even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure

that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure


Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me


I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament

Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you


Not really. He won an MLG before those GSL runs though!

He stayed in GSL for a while after those ro4 runs, but it was back when it was very hard to fall out of code s.


He then made the finals of multiple code A qualifers and lost 2-1 quite often. To random IM players
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
May 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#633
On May 29 2015 04:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:38 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:37 Topin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote:
it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order


Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo

EDIT Switched Huk out

even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure

that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure


Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me


I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament

Yeah I can't really argue with you on that. The top 4 for me all had periods of time where they struck fear into Korean hearts. Idra, Huk, and Sen have also had successful stretches so it's hard to say.
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
May 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#634
On May 29 2015 04:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:43 Aocowns wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:40 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Ctone23 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:37 Topin wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:29 Ej_ wrote:
it's Stephano #1 and then Naniwa, Huk (maybe), Jinro in random order. Tier 2 is Nerchio, Sen, Thorzain, Vortix, Scarlett and Snute in random order


Jinro, Stephano, Nani, Sen, Scarlett imo

EDIT Switched Huk out

even as a scarlett fan, Huk above Scarlett in an all time list for sure

that one is really hard, maybe Huk but a tiiiiiiiiny bit.... but im not sure


Stephano > Jinro > Naniwa > Scarlet > Huk for me


I feel like Idra needs to get in there somewhere. Pretty good GSL performances, an IEM Gold. And Sen. Sen while barely playing is still a champion. IIRC the tournament he won in HotS was played in between him placing well or winning a HS tournament

Yeah id change out Jinro and Scarlett for Idra and Sen. My memory is hazy about Jinro, but did he do anything after his GSL runs? Runs that were based on terran favoured maps with a pretty new greedy macro terran style that no one else really did and knew how to play against yet, mind you


Jinro has an MLG gold I think it was from around the same time. And Jinro was always better than idra. It was kind of their thing

oh right, think i remember him doing that now that you mention it lol

Idra had steam going for him though, he posted decent results for a lot longer. and honestly, i dont think fruitdealer and idra get enough credit for being top of korea ladder with that disgusting map pool with all those terrans lol

Rest in peace the Idra RO4 that shouldve been, my heart broke that day. I think thats the day SC2 jaded me beyond repair
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12193 Posts
May 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#635
On May 29 2015 04:08 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:06 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:03 ptbl wrote:
So, maybe snute is truly the patch zerg? He hasn't been the same after the swarmhost changes.


Still waiting for that famous player who isn't influenced by how his race does in the meta.


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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#636
fuck if he burrows that ling in time, it's literally godlike build
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#637
On May 29 2015 04:46 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?

the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it

make 3 lings able to kill 0/0 zealot

Combined ling speed and adrenal glands upgrade
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#638
On May 29 2015 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?


You can either wait for some other player to solve it, gamble (like what Byul/Dark did in Kespa Cup) or try to jump on the other player making mistakes.

In a theoretical sense there are no good answers for Zerg in the current meta.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#639
On May 29 2015 04:47 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:46 Ej_ wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?

the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it

make 3 lings able to kill 0/0 zealot

Combined ling speed and adrenal glands upgrade

No.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 28 2015 19:48 GMT
#640
On May 29 2015 04:47 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:46 Ej_ wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:44 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:38 Poorlilrich wrote:
Can someone explain why after like 5 years, people still try to beat blink stalker sentry with roach hydra? When has that ever worked without like a 50+ supply lead?


5 years ago, no one knew how to beat Stalker sentry, not really. Luckily not many people knew how to micro and FF so it was ok.

Then they got good, but it was ok cause Stephano made the fast 3 base max roach.

But then Protoss got better, but that was ok because of infestor/bl.

But then HotS came out, but it was ok cause no one really knew what they were doing.

Then Stalker/sentry got good, but it was ok because SH existed.

Now SH don't exist.

so solution is get good?

the solution is to make something for zerg OP again so we can deal with it

make 3 lings able to kill 0/0 zealot

Combined ling speed and adrenal glands upgrade


give zerglings cloak
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