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0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (15)
65%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (7)
30%
23 total votes
Your vote: Dream vs Bravo
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★ - Good game (2)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Guilty
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
71%
★★★ - Good game (2)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
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7 total votes
Your vote: Classic vs Journey
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: soO vs Solar
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★ - Good game (2)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Ace Match?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On April 13 2015 16:42 lastride wrote: So Samsung needs to win this with a score of 3-0 in order to advance? or is there another way?
Samsung wins with any score while KT loses would be enough for Samsung. If Samsung loses there is no way. Also if SKT loses 1-3 or 0-3 and KT wins SKT is in 5th.
On April 13 2015 16:42 lastride wrote: So Samsung needs to win this with a score of 3-0 in order to advance? or is there another way?
Samsung wins with any score while KT loses would be enough for Samsung. If Samsung loses there is no way. Also if SKT loses 1-3 or 0-3 and KT wins SKT is in 5th.
Yep the last one is my ideal scenario then, I wanna see coach Stork in the playoffs, and not just coaching but also winning haha
Another terran for Dark to destroy. Although Guilty is in a much higher class than Ryung. He might be able to put up a fight rather than lie down and die
Would be nice to see Samsung get the upset and slay the behemoth but not gonna happen very often
On another note does anyone else find it absurd that MVP picked Marineking this week with their round on the line without even making a statement after saying they would?
Looks like both telecoms are pretty substantial favourites to advance, and Jinair/CJ is a flip
Finals are going to be insane this round especially if it's a Telecom battle in the first round
Seems like a lot of the TvT metagame is really moving toward more economic openings these days. A lot fewer gas first banshees and more defensive builds
On April 13 2015 18:42 Alucen-Will- wrote: Seems like a lot of the TvT metagame is really moving toward more economic openings these days. A lot fewer gas first banshees and more defensive builds
On April 13 2015 18:42 Alucen-Will- wrote: Seems like a lot of the TvT metagame is really moving toward more economic openings these days. A lot fewer gas first banshees and more defensive builds
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (15)
65%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (7)
30%
23 total votes
Your vote: Dream vs Bravo
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On April 13 2015 19:02 Roadog wrote: That throw by Dream rip ;_;
Where did he "throw"?
Well the closest to throwing was after he surrounded and killed BrAvO's army and was 40 supply ahead he didn't commit to attacking.
Not every mistake is a "throw". Dream never had an obviously won game.
No, not every mistake is a throw, but he completely wiped a mech army and reset the tank count and then decided to give BrAvO time to rebuild. He could have won in that moment.
On April 13 2015 19:02 Roadog wrote: That throw by Dream rip ;_;
Where did he "throw"?
He actually had a huge timing to attack right when his 2/2 finished after absolutely crushing Bravo's first move out. He would of won the game 100% of the time had he attacked immediately after destroying that army. I am pretty shocked he didn't realize it and capitalize. That's a fight Maru takes (and wins) every time.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
HyuN has done this a lot in the past. It's the safest opening possible basically. I take it as a sign of confidence in a standard game.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
Used to be popular last year to cancel cc vs reaper expand. Hyun thought it up after hellbat change made 1 reaper into factory very common.
On April 13 2015 19:18 Alchemik wrote: just got rekt by a Terran in practice, time to watch some Terran get rekt by Dark
Guilty is never guilty of getting wrecked
never heard of him before
what
what did he do that I should know him?
He beat TY in a macro game in his first Proleague game. Since then he's been all the hype, but Samsung has to gather the Korean Dragon Balls to summon him or something, his only other game was exactly 3 months ago.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
HyuN has done this a lot in the past. It's the safest opening possible basically. I take it as a sign of confidence in a standard game.
I don't know why you wouldn't just go 10scout on a 2player map if you want to be safe and are willing to take economy cuts.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
HyuN has done this a lot in the past. It's the safest opening possible basically. I take it as a sign of confidence in a standard game.
I don't know why you wouldn't just go 10scout on a 2player map if you want to be safe and are willing to take economy cuts.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
HyuN has done this a lot in the past. It's the safest opening possible basically. I take it as a sign of confidence in a standard game.
I don't know why you wouldn't just go 10scout on a 2player map if you want to be safe and are willing to take economy cuts.
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
HyuN has done this a lot in the past. It's the safest opening possible basically. I take it as a sign of confidence in a standard game.
I don't know why you wouldn't just go 10scout on a 2player map if you want to be safe and are willing to take economy cuts.
It can do a lot of damage vs 1 reaper expand into factory and it's 100% auto win vs 2 rax, with scout you can still die to 2 rax or take enough damage for T to be ahead.
On April 13 2015 19:18 Alchemik wrote: just got rekt by a Terran in practice, time to watch some Terran get rekt by Dark
Guilty is never guilty of getting wrecked
I'd say that Alchemik's opponent is just Guilty of being too good.
Please Guilty get an early read on this -.-
I'd say Alchemik is Guilty of being bad
On April 13 2015 19:20 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:19 Alchemik wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:18 Alchemik wrote: just got rekt by a Terran in practice, time to watch some Terran get rekt by Dark
Guilty is never guilty of getting wrecked
never heard of him before
what
what did he do that I should know him?
Being awesome ; Being handsome ; Beating TY ; Being one the rising Khan Terarns
a lot of people beat TY and a lot of koreans are handsome
he doesn't even have a great name like TANGTANG or ICookTacos
pls you can make infinite bad puns with a name like Guilty
we would be making infinite bad puns anyway
On April 13 2015 19:23 Big J wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:20 DJHelium wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:18 Big J wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:18 OtherWorld wrote: missed the openings, what did Dark do?
13pool with 6zerglings and hatch behind weird pool timing, thought he had something figured out but looks like its just a worse variation of a 14 or 15pool.
HyuN has done this a lot in the past. It's the safest opening possible basically. I take it as a sign of confidence in a standard game.
I don't know why you wouldn't just go 10scout on a 2player map if you want to be safe and are willing to take economy cuts.
10 scout doesn't allow you to kill the CC
neither did 13pool?
maybe in this game, but if Guilty would reaper expand, Dark would have been able to cancel (unless the Terran would leave the reaper at home for some reason)
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★ - Good game (2)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Dark vs Guilty
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On April 13 2015 19:26 Alucen-Will- wrote: Do any Zerg's here know why more pro's don't do more 2 base ling/baneling all-in and 3 base roach/ling/baneling all-in's?
which ling/bane all-in do you mean?
and roach/bane was the meta for a while, but Terrans changed up their builds and got better at holding it
On April 13 2015 19:26 Alucen-Will- wrote: Do any Zerg's here know why more pro's don't do more 2 base ling/baneling all-in and 3 base roach/ling/baneling all-in's?
Pro terrans are very good at controlling their hellions. I don't think you should call it an all in if it transitions into something else.
On April 13 2015 19:26 Alucen-Will- wrote: Do any Zerg's here know why more pro's don't do more 2 base ling/baneling all-in and 3 base roach/ling/baneling all-in's?
which ling/bane all-in do you mean?
and roach/bane was the meta for a while, but Terrans changed up their builds and got better at holding it
Like a ling/baneling bust off 2 bases. Also Roach/Ling/baneling all in can be tough to scout and are often hard to hold
O damn so torn TT on one hand I like Classic and Love SKT on the other I love Journey and think he's baller and want him to suceed and slowly become SGK core terran. But seeing as this is PL and I want that playoff 100% gogog Classic but please play very well Journey.
On April 13 2015 19:26 Alucen-Will- wrote: Do any Zerg's here know why more pro's don't do more 2 base ling/baneling all-in and 3 base roach/ling/baneling all-in's?
which ling/bane all-in do you mean?
and roach/bane was the meta for a while, but Terrans changed up their builds and got better at holding it
Like a ling/baneling bust off 2 bases. Also Roach/Ling/baneling all in can be tough to scout and are often hard to hold
the 6:00 one? if Terran doesn't lose his first two hellions, it's very hard to outmicro him and break down the main ramp
roach/bane can be good and win games, obviously, but apparently they think that either different all-ins work better for them or they're just confident with macro
On April 13 2015 19:29 The_Templar wrote: I think Guilty was doing fine until the burrowed roaches/no detection. Saying he got absolutely crushed is a bit harsh.
Yeah, when the burrowed roaches came it looked really bad though. Until then he was fine, definitely.
On April 13 2015 19:26 Alucen-Will- wrote: Do any Zerg's here know why more pro's don't do more 2 base ling/baneling all-in and 3 base roach/ling/baneling all-in's?
On April 13 2015 19:29 The_Templar wrote: I think Guilty was doing fine until the burrowed roaches/no detection. Saying he got absolutely crushed is a bit harsh.
meh, he lost 11workers to the initial roach attack - that retained most of its roaches, did no damage at all with his banshee. I don't get Guilty's build to be honest. It looked like he was trying to cheat his way into lategame, having his first tank finishing at 9:30 with only one banshee, 8 hellions and 2 marines on the map. Like he built a second factory on the techlab of the starport but didn't produce anything with it for a minute or two. And after the rush trying to get by without turrets, going for a 12min hi-sec autotracking, going for early vikings but no real antiair, double armories pretty fast. I bet if he hadn't been attacked he would have just massed starports at 14mins of 120supply and hoped to get by.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
71%
★★★ - Good game (2)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Classic vs Journey
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On April 13 2015 19:47 fruity. wrote: I've always thought advertising doesn't work on me. But I want to go to the asian supermarket in purley to find some pocari sweat.
Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
On April 13 2015 19:47 fruity. wrote: I've always thought advertising doesn't work on me. But I want to go to the asian supermarket in purley to find some pocari sweat.
Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
On April 13 2015 19:47 fruity. wrote: I've always thought advertising doesn't work on me. But I want to go to the asian supermarket in purley to find some pocari sweat.
Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
On April 13 2015 19:47 fruity. wrote: I've always thought advertising doesn't work on me. But I want to go to the asian supermarket in purley to find some pocari sweat.
Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
This. I want those sweet Samsung coats. Hell I'd even buy ST or Prime gear. I need kindling
On April 13 2015 19:47 fruity. wrote: I've always thought advertising doesn't work on me. But I want to go to the asian supermarket in purley to find some pocari sweat.
Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
I want a Jin Air tie shirt
ew no. I would wear the normal JAGW shirt and that old army esque jacket of theirs.
On April 13 2015 19:49 GumBa wrote: Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
In an alternate reality, MVP returns.
The Emperor to reclaim his throne too.
Which jacket do you get? Both isn't an acceptable answer.
On April 13 2015 19:47 fruity. wrote: I've always thought advertising doesn't work on me. But I want to go to the asian supermarket in purley to find some pocari sweat.
Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
This. I want those sweet Samsung coats. Hell I'd even buy ST or Prime gear. I need kindling
I would wear the Prime Jackets and their old shirts weren't actually bad, Just their t shirt now is so boring.
On April 13 2015 19:48 Alucen-Will- wrote: Hm. Solar did make it to ro8 in gsl...More of a proleague slump than anything else
Was only one game short of eliminating PartinG.
But the spotv commentators wouldn't remember that
No of course not. PartinG isn't in Proleague and has only now qualified for SSL, so he didn't exist for the first 4 months of this year .
At the beginning of the cast Brendan made the statement that rogue chokes every time in individual league...and failed to mention he made it to ro8 in gsl and ssl the previous season, lol
On April 13 2015 19:49 GumBa wrote: Me too. Also pls get new deals with SKT for team swag TL pls pls pls. Hell I would buy from any team. Ok maybe not ST cause that would be sad.
In an alternate reality, MVP returns.
The Emperor to reclaim his throne too.
Which jacket do you get? Both isn't an acceptable answer.
Mvp's IM shirt or Boxers Slayers jacket or SKT swag cause boxer? Boxer all the way. He had swag
On April 13 2015 19:48 Alucen-Will- wrote: Hm. Solar did make it to ro8 in gsl...More of a proleague slump than anything else
Was only one game short of eliminating PartinG.
But the spotv commentators wouldn't remember that
No of course not. PartinG isn't in Proleague and has only now qualified for SSL, so he didn't exist for the first 4 months of this year .
At the beginning of the cast Brendan made the statement that rogue chokes every time in individual league...and failed to mention he made it to ro8 in gsl and ssl the previous season, lol
People can choke in any round though. Look at soO.
On April 13 2015 19:48 Alucen-Will- wrote: Hm. Solar did make it to ro8 in gsl...More of a proleague slump than anything else
Was only one game short of eliminating PartinG.
But the spotv commentators wouldn't remember that
No of course not. PartinG isn't in Proleague and has only now qualified for SSL, so he didn't exist for the first 4 months of this year .
At the beginning of the cast Brendan made the statement that rogue chokes every time in individual league...and failed to mention he made it to ro8 in gsl and ssl the previous season, lol
Well they're not completely wrong, Rogue is like super unlikely to turn a series around if he gets behind, he gets tilted. I mean, he got 3-0'd by Hurricane recently.
On April 13 2015 19:48 Alucen-Will- wrote: Hm. Solar did make it to ro8 in gsl...More of a proleague slump than anything else
Was only one game short of eliminating PartinG.
But the spotv commentators wouldn't remember that
No of course not. PartinG isn't in Proleague and has only now qualified for SSL, so he didn't exist for the first 4 months of this year .
At the beginning of the cast Brendan made the statement that rogue chokes every time in individual league...and failed to mention he made it to ro8 in gsl and ssl the previous season, lol
People can choke in any round though. Look at soO.
] Brendan said that because rogue lost in ro32 the other day to Hurricane 3-0. He had also just come back from London and was quite off
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: soO vs Solar
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Ace Match?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
29%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★ - Good game (2)
29%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Ace Match?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On April 13 2015 19:59 OtherWorld wrote: Well grats SKT, now I hope you'll go to the finals so that you can get wrecked by CJ
They'll be hard pressed to get past Zest.
true ZEST IS BEST
Zest literally has dominating winrates vs INnoVation, Dark and Classic and an overall winrate vs soO and he does enjoy beating SKT players a lot apparently.
I feel the exact opposite about CJ, more than most teams, it feels like their weakest player is not so far from the pack. Interesting perspective from Soo.
On April 13 2015 20:09 ThomasjServo wrote: I feel the exact opposite about CJ, more than most teams, it feels like their weakest player is not so far from the pack. Interesting perspective from Soo.
Who is CJ's weakest anyway? Ragnarok? Hush? Sora? Bunny? Probably Trust? Hard to tell.
On April 13 2015 20:09 ThomasjServo wrote: I feel the exact opposite about CJ, more than most teams, it feels like their weakest player is not so far from the pack. Interesting perspective from Soo.
Who is CJ's weakest anyway? Ragnarok? Hush? Sora? Bunny? Probably Trust? Hard to tell.
On April 13 2015 20:20 Soularion wrote: YO BRAVO -> BYUL ON ANTI TURNING OUT TO BE A REAL GOOD TRADE 6-WIN THE DREAM
ByuL on anti lol lol lol what were you thinking
It's last week. I'm going for 6-win. Maru plays ByuL, and if Maru loses that 6-win is fucked anyway. Trading bravo away for byul allows me to get a 3-1 here (like what actually happened) while getting max points. It's super risky, basically.
On April 13 2015 20:20 Soularion wrote: YO BRAVO -> BYUL ON ANTI TURNING OUT TO BE A REAL GOOD TRADE 6-WIN THE DREAM
ByuL on anti lol lol lol what were you thinking
It's last week. I'm going for 6-win. Maru plays ByuL, and if Maru loses that 6-win is fucked anyway. Trading bravo away for byul allows me to get a 3-1 here (like what actually happened) while getting max points. It's super risky, basically.
Hmm I understand the reasoning. Good luck though, I don't think Maru is more than slightly favored vs ByuL
On April 13 2015 20:20 Soularion wrote: YO BRAVO -> BYUL ON ANTI TURNING OUT TO BE A REAL GOOD TRADE 6-WIN THE DREAM
ByuL on anti lol lol lol what were you thinking
It's last week. I'm going for 6-win. Maru plays ByuL, and if Maru loses that 6-win is fucked anyway. Trading bravo away for byul allows me to get a 3-1 here (like what actually happened) while getting max points. It's super risky, basically.
Hmm I understand the reasoning. Good luck though, I don't think Maru is more than slightly favored vs ByuL
It's basically a coinflip. But if you look at my main team/anti team, it's basically the most YOLO week imaginable. 30 points is possible!
On April 13 2015 21:54 OtherWorld wrote: That soOjwa smile, thanks for sharing :DD as for the VODs I don't think there's anything besides YT VODs (and the ones from O'Gaming)
Azubu makes the complete broadcast available a few hours after it's complete IIRC.
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