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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3461
On April 06 2015 05:08 Serimek wrote:
Ultralisk sucks.

depend how you use them and their numbers really
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3462
omg fucking secret spring
can i get my estro logo back pls
Megafather
Profile Joined February 2015
138 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3463
This match was awesome in entertainment and high level but i thought Snute vs Bunny on the same map looked even better. Snute vs Bunny was really impressive the lvl they played, especially Bunny.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3464
On April 06 2015 05:07 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:06 opisska wrote:
So basically all you hear is the zerg whine that they are not able to get to Hive tech and thus die to the endless push and the first Zerg of the day who gets to Hive in ZvT dies immediately after maxing out with ultras. Maybe, just maybe people could realize that it's just about the individual skill and not the "overall injustice".

hydra got to hive because he was massively ahead in the midgame. he was up 180 to 120 supply at one point. it's correct for zerg to say you can't just go to hive on a small 2 player map in an even game

no it's not correct, it's false.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3465
On April 06 2015 05:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:07 Alchemik wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:05 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:05 Alchemik wrote:
and then people wonder why Zergs never go hive

yeah. 2-2 ultras are supposed to be strong.

ling bane muta is always better than anything hive can deliver

crackling ultra on 3-3 is ok vs marine/thor

yeah but he fought while 2-2
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3466
On April 06 2015 05:08 Serimek wrote:
Ultralisk sucks.

I'd rank that as the second truest post on TL behind Downfall's post in the beta thread
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3467
On April 06 2015 05:07 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:07 Alchemik wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:05 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:05 Alchemik wrote:
and then people wonder why Zergs never go hive

yeah. 2-2 ultras are supposed to be strong.

ling bane muta is always better than anything hive can deliver

crackling ultra on 3-3 is ok vs marine/thor

getting more than 3 ultras is a suicide, having ling bane muta + 2 ultras is okay cause it allows you to micro less, but it doesn't make your army much better
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
April 05 2015 20:08 GMT
#3468
On April 06 2015 05:06 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ultralisks, losing games since 2010

This. It's always really weird how badly Ultras seem to lose the game for zergs in top level TvZ, whereas Ultras spell the kiss of death for me in silver league TvZ, even when both sides are maxed and i'm up one set of upgrades.

MAKE LOTS OF MARAUDERS
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3469
On April 06 2015 05:07 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:06 opisska wrote:
So basically all you hear is the zerg whine that they are not able to get to Hive tech and thus die to the endless push and the first Zerg of the day who gets to Hive in ZvT dies immediately after maxing out with ultras. Maybe, just maybe people could realize that it's just about the individual skill and not the "overall injustice".

hydra got to hive because he was massively ahead in the midgame. he was up 180 to 120 supply at one point. it's correct for zerg to say you can't just go to hive on a small 2 player map in an even game


I agree, it's just that in the meantime he took more poor engagements, which hurt him when the Ultralisks's came out. Ultralisks are really just the killing blow when you have an advantage in ZvT.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 20:11:09
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3470
On April 06 2015 05:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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On April 06 2015 05:06 Musicus wrote:
This game was very good for zergs, the chances that the LotV Ultra will stay as it is just went up quite a bit .

Great game all around!

wouldn't have changed a thing since Hydra cleverly engaged 10 sec before chitinous plating.

But yeah, great game.


Yeah but even those 6 ultras that came later with 3-3 and the plating would've kept Hydra alive in LotV. Polt hardly had any marauders.

I mean Hydra deserved to lose here after throwing away the first wave, but UItras still look especially silly now .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3471
On April 06 2015 05:08 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:06 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ultralisks, losing games since 2010

This. It's always really weird how badly Ultras seem to lose the game for zergs in top level TvZ, whereas Ultras spell the kiss of death for me in silver league TvZ, even when both sides are maxed and i'm up one set of upgrades.

MAKE LOTS OF MARAUDERS

And micro a little. Only a little though
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3472
On April 06 2015 05:08 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:07 Elentos wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:04 Ej_ wrote:
Terran 7:0 Zerg on cross Deadwing

ELENTOS WHERE YOU AT

On April 06 2015 04:44 Elentos wrote:
Oh well Deadwing. 3-2 confirmed.

Get rekt.

I mean you've just self-ownt

To be fair, Hydra should have won that game. So it's not the map, it's the players spontaneously sucking.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3473
THIS IS HYPE
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3474
On April 06 2015 05:08 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:07 Ej_ wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:07 Alchemik wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:05 boxerfred wrote:
On April 06 2015 05:05 Alchemik wrote:
and then people wonder why Zergs never go hive

yeah. 2-2 ultras are supposed to be strong.

ling bane muta is always better than anything hive can deliver

crackling ultra on 3-3 is ok vs marine/thor

getting more than 3 ultras is a suicide, having ling bane muta + 2 ultras is okay cause it allows you to micro less, but it doesn't make your army much better

i said ok, not advised
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3475
On April 06 2015 05:08 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 05:06 opisska wrote:
So basically all you hear is the zerg whine that they are not able to get to Hive tech and thus die to the endless push and the first Zerg of the day who gets to Hive in ZvT dies immediately after maxing out with ultras. Maybe, just maybe people could realize that it's just about the individual skill and not the "overall injustice".


Doesn't this prove the point that Zerg is indeed not capable of safely getting to Hive tech, though?


He got totally safely to Hive tech, about as safe as you may ever wish, being significantly ahead at many points. And the moment he got some Hive units, he folded and died (largely because of bad engagements). I am just saying that Hive tech is

1) not that impossible to get
2) not the magic bullet

"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 05 2015 20:09 GMT
#3476
gotta admit, crosswing TvZ has given us some great games this year
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
April 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#3477
On April 06 2015 05:06 opisska wrote:
So basically all you hear is the zerg whine that they are not able to get to Hive tech and thus die to the endless push and the first Zerg of the day who gets to Hive in ZvT dies immediately after maxing out with ultras. Maybe, just maybe people could realize that it's just about the individual skill and not the "overall injustice".

Most zerg really suck at using Hive properly, weirdly Life is amongst the more competent ones at it.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#3478
On April 06 2015 05:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
gotta admit, crosswing TvZ has given us some great games this year

Gave us some good stuff last year too. Remember Life/First? :D
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#3479
omg ultralisks are neither bad nor an auto-loss. what a salty balance whine this is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 05 2015 20:10 GMT
#3480
Now polt 2 raxes with the rax in hydras inbase nat
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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