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On March 15 2015 05:35 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:28 Rollora wrote:
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.
Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D
I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.
They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.
I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.
And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.
And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff. every unit or spell you can lose against is complained about. if FF would be nerfed you and many others would complain about the buffs the other protoss units would get in compensation. People just want an excuse for their losses, has nothing to do with FFs.
No I wouldnt complain if Forcefields would be cut out of the game and other units get stronger instead.
Of course if standard gateway units get stronger, they need to work on warpgate/warpin time or allins are equally strong if not stronger then before.
I'd like to see reduced allin possibilities for toss and all the bullshit cut out. I have no problems with stronger units, the TvT and TvZ and ZvZ matchup is almost perfectly fine. We have seen too much "Soul Trains" and other bullshit that isn't successfull because the player is extremely good, but just because the other player can't engage.
Stupidest ability ever. A small Timewarp would be 10x better, especially because "3 sentries can block a ramp forever".
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On March 15 2015 06:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 15 2015 06:29 rednusa wrote:
Zest either failed or didn't attempt to qualify for the GSL Season 2. he lost to TANGTANG why can't tangtang be better
These scrubs are lucky TANGTANG didn't qualify.
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On March 15 2015 06:30 polpot wrote:
Who is tangtang lol
Prime terran b teamer which makes it sadder
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On March 15 2015 06:28 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:28 Spinoza wrote:
Zest is the world champion of Cheese ... only Zerg and Terran are noble honest races, no so with Protoss SOs actually won world championships with cheese so I think that's his title
but sOs is a god though, he and Has can do this shit and i will praise them, but zest....wtf no
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On March 15 2015 06:29 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:27 Whitewing wrote:On March 15 2015 06:25 stuchiu wrote:On March 15 2015 06:24 Whitewing wrote:
Praise be to Inca! Inca will deliver the faithful unto the promise land. Even as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no terran, for Inca is with me, and his cloaked warriors, they comfort me. Until the Widow Mines show up in your mineral line, and then it's 'My Inca, my Inca, why has thou forsaken me?' 'I'm still trying to look up the units that grant... detection? Is that it? My child.'
how can there be faith without struggle? how can there be faith with confirmation? Only those who submit their will unto his own and sublimate themselves in his will shall know the glory of the Dark Shrine.
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On March 15 2015 06:30 Undead1993 wrote:a korean terran
seems very popular!! never heard of him
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On March 15 2015 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:28 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 06:28 Spinoza wrote:
Zest is the world champion of Cheese ... only Zerg and Terran are noble honest races, no so with Protoss SOs actually won world championships with cheese so I think that's his title but sOs is a god though, he and Has can do this shit and i will praise them, but zest....wtf no
i don't think the people that complain right now would praise those two lol
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On March 15 2015 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:28 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 06:28 Spinoza wrote:
Zest is the world champion of Cheese ... only Zerg and Terran are noble honest races, no so with Protoss SOs actually won world championships with cheese so I think that's his title but sOs is a god though, he and Has can do this shit and i will praise them, but zest....wtf no
Has is like a smaller version of sOs
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Huh, Zest really likes Colossus drop on this map. I wonder what happened in training to make him take that path? Generally Colossus drop seems not so good, but it worked versus Innovation, so I guess it's okay.
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On March 15 2015 06:31 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:30 Elentos wrote:On March 15 2015 06:29 Jazzman88 wrote:On March 15 2015 06:27 Whitewing wrote:On March 15 2015 06:25 stuchiu wrote:On March 15 2015 06:24 Whitewing wrote:
Praise be to Inca! Inca will deliver the faithful unto the promise land. Even as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no terran, for Inca is with me, and his cloaked warriors, they comfort me. Until the Widow Mines show up in your mineral line, and then it's 'My Inca, my Inca, why has thou forsaken me?' 'I'm still trying to look up the units that grant... detection? Is that it? My child.' Zest got DT's into a build that's fine against mines in game 1 with INno, so no, Inca has not failed yet. If it's not 1-base DT rush, Inca is not fully satisfied. Have you forgotten your dogma?
I play Terran, but I'm at the point where I laugh all this shit off.
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BM Colossus drop incoming  )))
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On March 15 2015 06:31 Shellshock wrote:Prime terran b teamer which makes it sadder
oh now i get the joke :D
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On March 15 2015 06:32 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:On March 15 2015 06:28 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 06:28 Spinoza wrote:
Zest is the world champion of Cheese ... only Zerg and Terran are noble honest races, no so with Protoss SOs actually won world championships with cheese so I think that's his title but sOs is a god though, he and Has can do this shit and i will praise them, but zest....wtf no Has is like a smaller version of sOs
Yea they're both pretty fun to watch when they're on their game
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On March 15 2015 06:31 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:30 Elentos wrote:On March 15 2015 06:29 Jazzman88 wrote:On March 15 2015 06:27 Whitewing wrote:On March 15 2015 06:25 stuchiu wrote:On March 15 2015 06:24 Whitewing wrote:
Praise be to Inca! Inca will deliver the faithful unto the promise land. Even as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no terran, for Inca is with me, and his cloaked warriors, they comfort me. Until the Widow Mines show up in your mineral line, and then it's 'My Inca, my Inca, why has thou forsaken me?' 'I'm still trying to look up the units that grant... detection? Is that it? My child.' Zest got DT's into a build that's fine against mines in game 1 with INno, so no, Inca has not failed yet. If it's not 1-base DT rush, Inca is not fully satisfied. Have you forgotten your dogma?
Inca acknowledges, in his glorious wisdom, the need to modify DT rush builds slightly to accommodate changing expansions.
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boom allin
Zest really going Great Book today. 
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Colossus drop. This reminds me of the good old reaver drops in BW. Make it happen, Blizzard.
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On March 15 2015 06:32 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:31 Cricketer12 wrote:On March 15 2015 06:28 Shellshock wrote:On March 15 2015 06:28 Spinoza wrote:
Zest is the world champion of Cheese ... only Zerg and Terran are noble honest races, no so with Protoss SOs actually won world championships with cheese so I think that's his title but sOs is a god though, he and Has can do this shit and i will praise them, but zest....wtf no i don't think the people that complain right now would praise those two lol
I like what sOs and Has do more than what Zest is doing lol. At least they're creative and fun.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
3rd base overrated in this matchup
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On March 15 2015 06:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 06:29 Jazzman88 wrote:On March 15 2015 06:27 Whitewing wrote:On March 15 2015 06:25 stuchiu wrote:On March 15 2015 06:24 Whitewing wrote:
Praise be to Inca! Inca will deliver the faithful unto the promise land. Even as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no terran, for Inca is with me, and his cloaked warriors, they comfort me. Until the Widow Mines show up in your mineral line, and then it's 'My Inca, my Inca, why has thou forsaken me?' 'I'm still trying to look up the units that grant... detection? Is that it? My child.' how can there be faith without struggle? how can there be faith with confirmation? Only those who submit their will unto his own and sublimate themselves in his will shall know the glory of the Dark Shrine.
There is a time to YOLO, and a time to Prism. A time to third Nexus, and a time to gold base.
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