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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SvZkND1.jpg) Sunday, Mar 08 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Fragbite_Masters_Season_4
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png)  FragbiteCasters:Nathanias | DeMusliM
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4567.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/697.jpg)  Serral vs  Rain![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4349.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/6277.jpg)  MarineLorD vs PtitDrogo
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Serral vs Rain] +Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 42% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 25% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 9% ★★★- Good game (4) 36% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (3) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 50% ★★★- Good game (1) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 75% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 14% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 71% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 13% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6) 75% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 25% ★★★- Good game (2) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 83% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 67% ★★★- Good game (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Lorning
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Poll: Head?Serral & Rain (10) 59% Rain & MarineLord (5) 29% Serral & PtitDrogo (1) 6% MarineLord & PtitDrogo (1) 6% Serral & MarineLord (0) 0% Rain & PtitDrogo (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Serral & Rain
(Vote): Serral & MarineLord
(Vote): Serral & PtitDrogo
(Vote): Rain & MarineLord
(Vote): Rain & PtitDrogo
(Vote): MarineLord & PtitDrogo
Poll: Head?Serral & Rain (11) 65% MarineLord & PtitDrogo (5) 29% Rain & MarineLord (1) 6% Serral & MarineLord (0) 0% Serral & PtitDrogo (0) 0% Rain & PtitDrogo (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Serral & Rain
(Vote): Serral & MarineLord
(Vote): Serral & PtitDrogo
(Vote): Rain & MarineLord
(Vote): Rain & PtitDrogo
(Vote): MarineLord & PtitDrogo
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Would have given Serral a chance against MMA, as Serral has been doing well against Korean terrans, but as he is against Rain first, I feel his chances are greatly reduced.
In any case MMA probably wins over PtitDrogo and Rain probably knows Serral well enough to not let him surprise. So unless Rain goes first, I doubt Serral goes through this 
So MMA + Rain is my prediction, but wishing Serral can beat Rain, oh wouldn't that be something :D
Heart: Serral + MMA, but it's quite unlikely with this play order.
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oh come on MMA, is GSL really that important?
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That's a real shame, but Mlord is pretty good adn Serral vs Rain is a fantastic opener here. Looking forward to this.
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Well I guess preparing for GSL is more important than playing in this. On the positive side of things it means that PtitDrogo has more chances to make it out.
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french players are dominating all sc2 tournaments nowadays =O
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On March 09 2015 00:05 ossavi09 wrote:
french players are dominating all sc2 tournaments nowadays =O
The Baguette is too strong, all resistance is futile.
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Gogo Serral!
On March 09 2015 00:05 ossavi09 wrote:
french players are dominating all sc2 tournaments nowadays =O
"dominating"
But yeah it's good that they are doing better.
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Lorning
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On March 09 2015 01:57 Mambo wrote:
Twitch down?
Seems so, just a black screen with twitch in the middle for me
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Can you add the French stream please ? Thanks!
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Hi guys, twitch just started to work but we´re still waiting until 18:30 CET to make sure it stays on /Fragbite
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totally unrelated, but I just got the TLMC replay pack and can watch Ej_'s game
hype
oh, also kofdhh's
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Hype hype hype. Will Serral sweep the group?
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On March 09 2015 02:25 Alchemik wrote:
totally unrelated, but I just got the TLMC replay pack and can watch Ej_'s game
hype
Be sure to destroy my game
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The prize distribution of this tournament is a joke.
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On March 09 2015 02:26 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:25 Alchemik wrote:
totally unrelated, but I just got the TLMC replay pack and can watch Ej_'s game
hype Be sure to destroy my game
be sure to never watch my game on Adun's Shrine ;____;
most embarassing 1 I've ever played
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Sad not to see MMA, but I can understand he needs to prepare for his match against PartinG, who I hope he'll be able to smash to pieces.
Hope Rain showcases some great games. Every player besides Rain has a shot, they're all pretty good. Should be some nice SC2.
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On March 09 2015 02:26 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:25 Alchemik wrote:
totally unrelated, but I just got the TLMC replay pack and can watch Ej_'s game
hype Be sure to destroy my game
can't find your game, but found replays of few other LR people
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Today Serral vs Rain and tomorrow Nani vs Firecake :D looks good.
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On March 09 2015 02:30 RaFox17 wrote:
Today Serral vs Rain and tomorrow Nani vs Firecake :D looks good.
Nani vs Firecake? Uhm, man....
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On March 09 2015 02:31 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:30 RaFox17 wrote:
Today Serral vs Rain and tomorrow Nani vs Firecake :D looks good. Nani vs Firecake? Uhm, man....
One of them has to lose.
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On March 09 2015 02:32 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:31 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 09 2015 02:30 RaFox17 wrote:
Today Serral vs Rain and tomorrow Nani vs Firecake :D looks good. Nani vs Firecake? Uhm, man.... One of them has to lose.
So they draw? I mean, we will already have a single loser from this series: viewers.
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On March 09 2015 02:33 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:32 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 02:31 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 09 2015 02:30 RaFox17 wrote:
Today Serral vs Rain and tomorrow Nani vs Firecake :D looks good. Nani vs Firecake? Uhm, man.... One of them has to lose. So they draw? I mean, we will already have a single loser from this series: viewers.
If NaNiwa loses after a 2 hour swarmhost game, we win. We totally win
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On March 09 2015 02:29 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:26 Lorning wrote:On March 09 2015 02:25 Alchemik wrote:
totally unrelated, but I just got the TLMC replay pack and can watch Ej_'s game
hype Be sure to destroy my game be sure to never watch my game on Adun's Shrine ;____; most embarassing 1 I've ever played
which one is it? :D
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Go go Serral! 
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On March 09 2015 02:37 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Ah man, no MMA.
Dodging the tournaments with REAL competition. Everyone can win GSL
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On March 09 2015 02:38 Lorning wrote:Dodging the tournaments with REAL competition. Everyone can win GSL
remember that time when a retired-BW-pro-turned-fruit-vendor won with the weakest race in the meta? GSL never really has been competitive
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Uhm, what server this game is played on? Kinda sloppy of Rain to lose 3 probes to 4 lings.
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On March 09 2015 02:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Uhm, what server this game is played on? Kinda sloppy of Rain to lose 3 probes to 4 lings.
don't worry, it's on EU I think. Rain is playing handicapped
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On March 09 2015 02:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Uhm, what server this game is played on? Kinda sloppy of Rain to lose 3 probes to 4 lings.
PERKELE PERKELE SUOMI
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Rain that type of guy to cannon his natural before taking a 3rd
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"How you beat ling-hydra with just gateway units?"
You know nothing, Nathanias
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templar archives before robo is super sexy, glad to see it become more popular amongst Korean pros
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On March 09 2015 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
templar archives before robo is super sexy, glad to see it become more popular amongst Korean pros
But not really efficient against someone who sees that and goes into SHs, is it?
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On March 09 2015 02:47 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 02:47 Ej_ wrote:
templar archives before robo is super sexy, glad to see it become more popular amongst Korean pros But not really efficient against someone who sees that and goes into SHs, is it?
nope not really, but I wish it would. HT are much much more fun units than collossi
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I just noticed Gungfubanda's group is played during Gfinity qualifier #2. First they did not invite him and now they try to hinder him from playing in other tournaments...
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On March 09 2015 02:52 ossavi09 wrote:
I just noticed Gungfubanda's group is played during Gfinity qualifier #2. First they did not invite him and now they try to hinder him from playing in other tournaments...
This is just a schedule issue, I don't think Fragbite hates Gungfubanda's
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Rain should start using his 2nd cyber core?
e:as i say that...
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what is with the observer? keeps missing big engagements.
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As long as Serral doesn't start so spread creep, this is looking fairly good for Rain.
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Serral getting drops, picking of stargates with lings would be sick.
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Serral applying the good ol: GOT MONEY GET ALL THE UPGRADES formula
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On March 09 2015 03:04 Musicus wrote:
Serral getting drops, picking of stargates with lings would be sick.
missclick, he isn't Jaedong
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its nearly impossible for protoss to win from this point. lets see how rain does it
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On March 09 2015 03:06 theBALLS wrote:
its nearly impossible for protoss to win from this point. lets see how rain does it
One shotting spore crawlers is the point.
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Serral should basetrade
e:and as I say that...
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On March 09 2015 03:09 Ej_ wrote:
Serral should basetrade
e:and as I say that...
On a roll today.
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he's going to lose all buildings and forget about the probes in the prism
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Does Rain have observers??
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god I hate lategame pvz, this is total nonsense
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this nexus position is some jjakji-esque shit
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Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 42% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 25% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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What a crazy game 1, haha gg!
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Damn Serral playing with my heart again.
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This should not have been so close. A fun ending nontheless.
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Rain the type of guy to type GG instead of running the timer
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Lol what a freaking entertaining game ! Very questionable decisions from both sides at times, but overall that was a pretty pleasant nail biter.
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On March 09 2015 03:16 True_Spike wrote:
This should not have been so close. A fun ending nontheless.
Honestly this was Rain's game to lose and then he did lose the warp prism with probes
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Poll: On Expedition Lost Rain will:7-gate (5) 56% cannon rush (2) 22% immortal all-in (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: On Expedition Lost Rain will: (Vote): cannon rush
(Vote): 7-gate
(Vote): immortal all-in
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On March 09 2015 03:16 Ej_ wrote:
Rain the type of guy to type GG instead of running the timer
yeah he only waited till the last 25% of his last building, such nobleness
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Oh, Snute did that against Lilbow yesterday. He got destroyed.
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On March 09 2015 03:21 Boucot wrote:
Oh, Snute did that against Lilbow yesterday. He got destroyed.
Well, game 3, here we go.
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On March 09 2015 03:21 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 03:21 Boucot wrote:
Oh, Snute did that against Lilbow yesterday. He got destroyed. Well, game 3, here we go.
No.
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I guess Lilbow is better than Rain.
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lol serral beating rain 2-0
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On March 09 2015 02:25 RHoudini wrote:
Hype hype hype. Will Serral sweep the group?
Halfway!
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Serral the beast, just keeps winning.
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On March 09 2015 03:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 03:21 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 09 2015 03:21 Boucot wrote:
Oh, Snute did that against Lilbow yesterday. He got destroyed. Well, game 3, here we go. No.
Serral is the only good WCS Premier Player confirmed.
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Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 9% ★★★- Good game (4) 36% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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so Serral and PtitDrogo advance?
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More Rain games to watch!
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Serral beating Rain into losing to PtitDrogo. Classic stuff.
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On March 09 2015 03:26 DJHelium wrote:
Did Rain play KR->EU?
yes
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On March 09 2015 03:21 Boucot wrote:
Oh, Snute did that against Lilbow yesterday. He got destroyed.
Please do not compare top foreigner to a northern bonjwa 
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On March 09 2015 03:27 Ej_ wrote:yes
Thanks!
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On March 09 2015 03:26 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 9% ★★★- Good game (4) 36% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 29% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 29% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Serral vs Rain Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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see the problem with doing a 2-base all-in on Expedition Lost is that everybody expects it
especially if they have an overlord over all of your gateways
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Serral is Snute level now
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I agree. I don't see anything wrong with it though, up to the players if they want to play.
However it might cause for some bad offline finals, since suddenly the handicap is gone and the koreans will be even better.
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On March 09 2015 03:27 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 03:21 Boucot wrote:
Oh, Snute did that against Lilbow yesterday. He got destroyed. Please do not compare top foreigner to a northern bonjwa
Is Finland really further north than Norway ? 
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Lilbow just covering for when he never wins
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I don't get why they didn't play on NA.
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On March 09 2015 03:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I don't get why they didn't play on NA.
I assume the tournament wants the game to be played on EU. Easier for EU players to get in.
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Impressive play by Serral. I'm looking for WCS to see how he'll perform.
Did someone notice flaws in Rain's play caused by KR->EU lag ? I didn't.
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On March 09 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:Shhh, lemme sit comfortably on teh hype train.
Isn't that against the law for a russian to root for a finn ?
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On March 09 2015 03:31 Serimek wrote:
Impressive play by Serral. I'm looking for WCS to see how he'll perform.
Did someone notice flaws in Rain's play caused by KR->EU lag ? I didn't.
a lot on Overgrowth
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On March 09 2015 03:31 Serimek wrote:
Impressive play by Serral. I'm looking for WCS to see how he'll perform.
Did someone notice flaws in Rain's play caused by KR->EU lag ? I didn't.
Didn't watch to closely game 2, but early-midgame game 1 there were some micro issues imo. Those lings killing of the stalker in the wall-in for example.
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On March 09 2015 03:31 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 03:29 lolfail9001 wrote:Shhh, lemme sit comfortably on teh hype train. Isn't that against the law for a russian to root for a finn ?
It's against the law for a russian to exist. I am serious, if you dig deep enough, any russian violates a law, including the russian who wrote the law and the russian who approved it.
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On March 09 2015 03:32 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 03:31 Serimek wrote:
Impressive play by Serral. I'm looking for WCS to see how he'll perform.
Did someone notice flaws in Rain's play caused by KR->EU lag ? I didn't. Didn't watch to closely game 2, but early-midgame game 1 there were some micro issues imo. Those lings killing of the stalker in the wall-in for example.
Or 4 lings getting 3(!!) probes
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I would not be surprised if Rain does not advance, Marinelord is just as good as Serral and Ptitdrogo is also one of the best EU Protoss, it will ba hard to beat them on the EU server from Korea.
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Mass tempest proves to be useless, again.
Anyone recall, on top of their heads, a game won with mass tempest against SH+corruptor+vipter+mass static defense?
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On March 09 2015 03:34 Musicus wrote:
I would not be surprised if Rain does not advance, Marinelord is just as good as Serral and Ptitdrogo is also one of the best EU Protoss, it will ba hard to beat them on the EU server from Korea.
fortunately enough they cannot put him in the Kespa jail anymore
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On March 09 2015 03:34 Musicus wrote:
I would not be surprised if Rain does not advance, Marinelord is just as good as Serral and Ptitdrogo is also one of the best EU Protoss, it will ba hard to beat them on the EU server from Korea.
Serral/Marinelord/PtitDrogo best player trio EU hype!!
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It will be hard to ride both the Serral hype train and the Ptitdrogo one at the same time
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On March 09 2015 03:36 MCMXVI wrote:
Mass tempest proves to be useless, again.
Anyone recall, on top of their heads, a game won with mass tempest against SH+corruptor+vipter+mass static defense?
Zest vs Life on Nimbus
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On March 09 2015 03:36 MCMXVI wrote:
Mass tempest proves to be useless, again.
Anyone recall, on top of their heads, a game won with mass tempest against SH+corruptor+vipter+mass static defense?
Mass tempest proves to be useless as in Rain almost wins a game with it?
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On March 09 2015 03:36 MCMXVI wrote:
Mass tempest proves to be useless, again.
The game could have gone either way, the mass tempest worked quite well.
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What the hell is this map...
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I can't watch the games while driving but GOGO PTITDROGO
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And yay Serral proving once again how sick he is
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3 observers killed in 9 minutes. That's some TaeJa stats.
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MarineLord has like a third eye for invisible units.
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On March 09 2015 03:44 Musicus wrote:
MarineLord has like a third eye for invisible units.
Low graphics settings probably :D
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Drogo should just double expand to gold
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On March 09 2015 03:28 DJHelium wrote:https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/574637670636322816I agree. I don't see anything wrong with it though, up to the players if they want to play. However it might cause for some bad offline finals, since suddenly the handicap is gone and the koreans will be even better.
Oh come on, some people should stop being so sensitive about lag. Was there any noticeable one? I don't think so.
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On March 09 2015 03:48 darkness wrote:Oh come on, some people should stop being so sensitive about lag. Was there any noticeable one? I don't think so.
Like we said earlier in the thread, there were some really uncharasteristic mistakes by Rain.
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On March 09 2015 03:48 darkness wrote:Oh come on, some people should stop being so sensitive about lag. Was there any noticeable one? I don't think so.
It was already brought up on the previous page, Rain's play was pretty sloppy on Overgrowth
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Why did MLord fight before upgrades ?
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he needs to stop saying shrekking or whatever that word is supposed to be, he is saying it too much
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On March 09 2015 03:55 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★- Good game (3) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Is he still at the gaming house ?
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On March 09 2015 03:58 Serimek wrote:Is he still at the gaming house ?
Yes I think.
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On March 09 2015 03:54 travis wrote:
he needs to stop saying shrekking or whatever that word is supposed to be, he is saying it too much
That is simply not going to happen. This is Nathanias we are talking about.
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On March 09 2015 04:02 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 03:54 travis wrote:
he needs to stop saying shrekking or whatever that word is supposed to be, he is saying it too much That is simply not going to happen. This is Nathanias we are talking about.
Shrekking ?
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wow serral 2-0 rain
and the beaver is leading
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Poll: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 50% ★★★- Good game (1) 25% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend MarineLord vs PtitDrogo Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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MLord looked quite insane here. A nightmare to play against as P.
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On March 09 2015 03:54 travis wrote:
he needs to stop saying shrekking or whatever that word is supposed to be, he is saying it too much
Considering, that it isn't even a word, saying it once is to often.
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On March 09 2015 03:28 DJHelium wrote:https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/574637670636322816I agree. I don't see anything wrong with it though, up to the players if they want to play. However it might cause for some bad offline finals, since suddenly the handicap is gone and the koreans will be even better.
So Europeans should just autolose when they meet Koreans on EU server or what?
what a stupid tweet...
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Thanks for following our tournament
Maps for the next matchup: Serrals pick, Inferno Pools, MarineLorDs Vaani Research Station, last map Deadwing
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On March 09 2015 04:13 Shellshock wrote:
Serral better own MLord
TvZ is MlorD's weakest matchup atm so it could happen but he almost beat Hydra this week so it will be at least a close match.
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On March 09 2015 04:14 sharkie wrote:So Europeans should just autolose when they meet Koreans on EU server or what? what a stupid tweet...
They also can have the balls to play on NA to even things up. During qualifiers this week, both MLord and ForGG offered their opponents to play on NA when they were Koreans for instance.
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On March 09 2015 04:14 sharkie wrote:So Europeans should just autolose when they meet Koreans on EU server or what? what a stupid tweet...
Or play the matches on the US server to make it fair?
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Why the heck should they if the tournament is an European one?
I don't see people in other sports give away their home advantage...
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MarineLorD's advice to all terrans around the world : veto yellow maps.
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On March 09 2015 04:16 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:14 sharkie wrote:On March 09 2015 03:28 DJHelium wrote:https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/574637670636322816I agree. I don't see anything wrong with it though, up to the players if they want to play. However it might cause for some bad offline finals, since suddenly the handicap is gone and the koreans will be even better. So Europeans should just autolose when they meet Koreans on EU server or what? what a stupid tweet... Or play the matches on the US server to make it fair?
This is the tournaments choice. If they are one tournament located in one region, it is perfectly fine to have the games in one server. AFAIK OlimoLeague doesn't switch to NA either, when Euros are participating.
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On March 09 2015 04:19 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:16 Valikyr wrote:On March 09 2015 04:14 sharkie wrote:On March 09 2015 03:28 DJHelium wrote:https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/574637670636322816I agree. I don't see anything wrong with it though, up to the players if they want to play. However it might cause for some bad offline finals, since suddenly the handicap is gone and the koreans will be even better. So Europeans should just autolose when they meet Koreans on EU server or what? what a stupid tweet... Or play the matches on the US server to make it fair? This is the tournaments choice. If they are one tournament located in one region, it is perfectly fine to have the games in one server. AFAIK OlimoLeague doesn't switch to NA either, when Euros are participating.
yeah but we don't need the handicap
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Damn that's a sweet burger
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On March 09 2015 04:21 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:19 Xoronius wrote:On March 09 2015 04:16 Valikyr wrote:On March 09 2015 04:14 sharkie wrote:On March 09 2015 03:28 DJHelium wrote:https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/574637670636322816I agree. I don't see anything wrong with it though, up to the players if they want to play. However it might cause for some bad offline finals, since suddenly the handicap is gone and the koreans will be even better. So Europeans should just autolose when they meet Koreans on EU server or what? what a stupid tweet... Or play the matches on the US server to make it fair? This is the tournaments choice. If they are one tournament located in one region, it is perfectly fine to have the games in one server. AFAIK OlimoLeague doesn't switch to NA either, when Euros are participating. yeah but we don't need the handicap
No, sure, noone is is doubting, that koreans are better than Euros. But this is just an example of regionally based tournaments. Noone would ever suggest, that OlimoLeague is switching to NA, so why would people suggest to have Fragbite do the same?
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Lorning PMed me that he is a bigger fan of Serral and MKC
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Inferno Pools non-cross.
RIP Finnish hope
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On March 09 2015 04:23 Shellshock wrote:
Lorning PMed me that he is a bigger fan of Serral and MKC
Disgusting lies
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Come on Serral!! 
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poor Serral getting schooled by the French god
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I like that roach warren. This is what I would do.
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I don't think Serral is in a spot that bad, is he ?
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Why are they playing on this map? It's masochistic.
Edit, kinda funny when they realize that Serral never was behind.
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This muta control is on par with the Korean top
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Serral doesnt even care about your maps
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Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 75% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On March 09 2015 04:27 Shellshock wrote:poor Serral getting schooled by the French god
I would rate him at max a demigod.
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Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners.
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That's enough, gotta add Serral to my sig. So good.
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Serral's good, no doubt about that.
(Edit : Even if I can't say that as he is European...)
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On March 09 2015 04:40 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (1) 13% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (6) 75% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On March 09 2015 04:40 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:27 Shellshock wrote:poor Serral getting schooled by the French god I would rate him at max a demigod.
I feel like a 300 related gif would be appropriate after this game
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On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners.
I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group
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That was like watching a Korean vs a Foreigner. =)
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On March 09 2015 04:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
That was like watching a Korean vs a Foreigner. =)
yeah I agree MLord looked like he had to face terrible lag
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On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group
I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped?
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Is Finland the new korea!?
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On March 09 2015 04:41 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
That was like watching a Korean vs a Foreigner. =) yeah I agree MLord looked like he had to face terrible lag
French lag is so much worse than Finnish lag on EU server. This series means nothing.
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On March 09 2015 04:42 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped?
he made Naniwa look like a high master protoss
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On March 09 2015 04:42 GumBa wrote:
Is Finland the new korea!?
I would say that it's the new Korea, yes.
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On March 09 2015 04:43 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:42 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped? he made Naniwa look like a high master protoss
Ah I remember! That was a splendid WCS group. Loved the outcome.
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On March 09 2015 04:42 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped?
He looked like he was one or two step above all the time, yes.
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On March 09 2015 04:42 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped?
He owned your fav player Naniwa
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On March 09 2015 04:44 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:42 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped? He owned your fav player Naniwa
yeah how could I forget
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On March 09 2015 04:43 Heartland wrote:I would say that it's the new Korea, yes.
And is Serral the eu life?
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On March 09 2015 04:45 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:43 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 04:42 GumBa wrote:
Is Finland the new korea!? I would say that it's the new Korea, yes. And is Serral the eu life?
more like the Iron Wall of Finland
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On March 09 2015 04:45 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:44 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 04:42 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 boxerfred wrote:
Serral really makes me want to play more zerg. Starting to become a fan of those foreigners. I figured you would have been a fan of him after his WCS group I jumped the Heroes of the storm train lately so I completely missed WCS Premier and suck at Liquibets now. He roflstomped? He owned your fav player Naniwa yeah how could I forget
RIP Passion
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On March 09 2015 04:42 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 04:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 04:40 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
That was like watching a Korean vs a Foreigner. =) yeah I agree MLord looked like he had to face terrible lag French lag is so much worse than Finnish lag on EU server. This series means nothing.
we shoud play on NA, this is a scandal
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No 4-0 for Serral.
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That was pretty impressive by Serral even though he lost.
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WHO'S YOUR GOD NOW ?
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couple skilled Europeans here
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Such a shame MLorD is not on WCS Premier.
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Did that spine just missed a marine and hacked into the ground??
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On March 09 2015 05:06 BaneRiders wrote:
Did that spine just missed a marine and hacked into the ground??
You can dodge spine attacks like a projectile
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On March 09 2015 05:06 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:06 BaneRiders wrote:
Did that spine just missed a marine and hacked into the ground?? You can dodge spine attacks like a projectile
I've never seen this. You mean the medivac picked up the marine and therefore the spine missed?
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On March 09 2015 05:08 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:06 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:06 BaneRiders wrote:
Did that spine just missed a marine and hacked into the ground?? You can dodge spine attacks like a projectile I've never seen this. You mean the medivac picked up the marine and therefore the spine missed?
yea. Some players have done it while 2 raxing with a bunker as well
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serral got beaver'd
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Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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MarineLorD confirmed one of the best foreign terran.
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On March 09 2015 05:08 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:08 BaneRiders wrote:On March 09 2015 05:06 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:06 BaneRiders wrote:
Did that spine just missed a marine and hacked into the ground?? You can dodge spine attacks like a projectile I've never seen this. You mean the medivac picked up the marine and therefore the spine missed? yea. Some players have done it while 2 raxing with a bunker as well
Cute!
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On March 09 2015 05:09 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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On March 09 2015 05:10 boxerfred wrote:
can we rebroadcast those matches without player labels?
whatcha gonna call it, GSL 2012?
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On March 09 2015 04:56 travis wrote:
couple skilled Europeans here
but can they be considered good?
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On March 09 2015 04:57 Serimek wrote:
Such a shame MLorD is not on WCS Premier.
Blame the brackets -he lost to ForGG. He indeed would have had a shot at upsetting and advancing quite far.
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On March 09 2015 05:12 Heartland wrote:
30 mins?
McDonalds breaks again =.=
hmm or not this time
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I think Fragbite tournaments have a really great production value. I love the layout. Only thing I dislike is the standard electro music.
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On March 09 2015 05:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:10 boxerfred wrote:
can we rebroadcast those matches without player labels? whatcha gonna call it, GSL 2012?
I'm just interested in seeing what people think who played, especially game 2.
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PtitDrogo said that he really wants to see how Rain is going to hold his build. D:
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On March 09 2015 05:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:10 boxerfred wrote:
can we rebroadcast those matches without player labels? whatcha gonna call it, GSL 2012?
GSL 2011, obviously, 2 base pushes are from 2011
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On March 09 2015 05:14 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:11 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:10 boxerfred wrote:
can we rebroadcast those matches without player labels? whatcha gonna call it, GSL 2012? I'm just interested in seeing what people think who played, especially game 2.
Uneducated viewer could confuse it with one of Soulkey vs Innovation games, yeah, in which Soulkey defends well but dies anyways.
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how was Serral vs MarineLord?
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Meanwhile, Lilbow is 10-0 in SC2 Improve Team League.
On March 09 2015 05:25 Alchemik wrote:
how was Serral vs MarineLord?
Very good
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On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral
I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral
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On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral
He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute.
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What is up with Rain lately??? If he loses to Drogo then I will laugh
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On March 09 2015 05:25 Alchemik wrote:
how was Serral vs MarineLord?
Good two first games. Third kinda meh.
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On March 09 2015 05:38 sc2_FeaR wrote:
What is up with Rain lately??? If he loses to Drogo then I will laugh
europeans players are just too strong
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On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute.
But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player
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On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player
i'll grudgematch you if you say that again
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On March 09 2015 05:14 Aeromi wrote:
PtitDrogo said that he really wants to see how Rain is going to hold his build. D:
How is PtitDrogo going to hold Rain's build ?
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What did they feed Nathan during the commercial?
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On March 09 2015 05:43 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:14 Aeromi wrote:
PtitDrogo said that he really wants to see how Rain is going to hold his build. D: How is PtitDrogo going to hold Rain's build ?
No idea, he wanted to allin him but I can't say more because PengWin or nkr might read this message. :<
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On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again
But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player
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Ok EZ win there for Rain haha
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On March 09 2015 05:46 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player
prepare your johns already
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On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again
You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged
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On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged
don't worry I'm not TelecoM
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Drogo
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IdrA GG timing by PtitDrogo
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Let's say that wasn't PtitDrogo's best series.
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whats with the deadwing ramp? As far as I know, 2 stalkers should be enough to fully block it?
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On March 09 2015 05:59 Solar424 wrote:
IdrA GG timing by PtitDrogo
He was dead, only one pylon on his robo and 3 gates.
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you know Rain even warped a 2nd dt...
Rain was ultra dead if Drogo hadn't messed up
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On March 09 2015 05:59 Eladen wrote:
whats with the deadwing ramp? As far as I know, 2 stalkers should be enough to fully block it?
he put them wrong
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Oh no I come back and PtitDrogo is dead )':
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That was truly a sad series in every way.
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Well I guess this group was pretty hard anyways. Still a bit sad. Now gogo Serral and MillLord
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What happened in game 2? Missed it
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On March 09 2015 06:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Well I guess this group was pretty hard anyways. Still a bit sad. Now gogo Serral and MillLord
? Mlord is already through, it's Rain vs Serral again
Serral needs to try and beat the curse
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On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM
Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET?
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On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET?
ok, I'll do my best to be there.
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On March 09 2015 06:04 Shellshock wrote:
What happened in game 2? Missed it
Ptitdrogo saw Rain went early dts, tried to block the ramp with 2 stalkers, dts slip in anyway.
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On March 09 2015 06:05 D-light wrote:Ptitdrogo saw Rain went early dts, tried to block the ramp with 2 stalkers, dts slip in anyway.
Thank you
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On March 09 2015 06:04 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Well I guess this group was pretty hard anyways. Still a bit sad. Now gogo Serral and MillLord ? Mlord is already through, it's Rain vs Serral again Serral needs to try and beat the curse
I looked at the OP too fast D:
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On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there.
Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature?
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How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again?
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On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again?
depends if Rain is playing from KR on EU
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On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again?
Snute level
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On March 09 2015 06:12 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again? Snute level
Snute level of hype never were exceptionally high though
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that was a really sexy attack by Rain
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On March 09 2015 06:15 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:12 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again? Snute level Snute level of hype never were exceptionally high though
Naniwa@DH Stockholm 2013 level of hype maybe?
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On March 09 2015 06:17 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:15 OtherWorld wrote:On March 09 2015 06:12 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again? Snute level Snute level of hype never were exceptionally high though Naniwa@DH Stockholm 2013 level of hype maybe?
More like NaNiwa vs Revival level of hype
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This is some textbook execution by Rain.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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On March 09 2015 06:10 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:On March 09 2015 05:13 Makro wrote:
ptitdrogo best mu is vs zerg, if he can pass rain, it could be interesting against serral I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there. Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature?
sure, I'm Ejwoda.197 on EU
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On March 09 2015 06:19 D-light wrote:
No Serral wtf.
lol such bm
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On March 09 2015 06:15 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:12 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again? Snute level Snute level of hype never were exceptionally high though
Well it won't be world shatteringly high after this either. If he makes ro4 wcs he graduates to Stephano hype
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Serral
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They never win the rematches
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Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice?
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On March 09 2015 06:19 c0ldfusion wrote:
Serral so salty...
"g"
Wow you're telling me roach/hydra/viper isn't a bonjwa-esque composition in ZvP?
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On March 09 2015 06:19 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:15 OtherWorld wrote:On March 09 2015 06:12 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again? Snute level Snute level of hype never were exceptionally high though Well it won't be world shatteringly high after this either. If he makes ro4 wcs he graduates to Stephano hype
Now Stephano hype is something interesting.
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On March 09 2015 06:19 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:10 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:
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I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there. Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature? sure, I'm Ejwoda.197 on EU
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice?
You have to wait once the group is finished.
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice?
Time to get drunk and to post drunk santa
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice?
I mean someone pretty much always does especially if the player who gets eliminated with a 3-2 h2h map score like will happen if serral loses 1-2
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On March 09 2015 06:21 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice? I mean someone pretty much always does especially if the player who gets eliminated with a 3-2 h2h map score like will happen if serral loses 1-2
This group format sucks for the players, round robin pls.
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Ej_ wrote:Wow you're telling me roach/hydra/viper isn't a bonjwa-esque composition in ZvP?
Not sure where you're going with that. I don't think there was anything wrong with his composition. It works fine against colo / gateway units.
Serral needed to defend better though.
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Shellshock wrote:
They never win the rematches
Haha, so true.
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice?
Literally worst format ever if Serral loses.
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On March 09 2015 06:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:19 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 06:15 OtherWorld wrote:On March 09 2015 06:12 GumBa wrote:On March 09 2015 06:11 Shellshock wrote:
How high will the hype levels reach of serral wins again? Snute level Snute level of hype never were exceptionally high though Well it won't be world shatteringly high after this either. If he makes ro4 wcs he graduates to Stephano hype Now Stephano hype is something interesting.
It's what every player strives to reach.
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Nathanias and DeMusliM are quite funny together. The cast is kinda bad, but not the chit chat.
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I have Stephano gossip btw
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On March 09 2015 06:20 Ej_ wrote:Wow you're telling me roach/hydra/viper isn't a bonjwa-esque composition in ZvP?
only mass roach is bonjwa-esque
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On March 09 2015 06:24 Serimek wrote:
Nathanias and DeMusliM are quite funny together. Their cast is kinda bad, but not the chit chat.
Don't think it's all for show though.
I detect a trace of real bitterness in that Frodo debate.
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On March 09 2015 06:24 Heartland wrote:
I have Stephano gossip btw
Who does not ? :>
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well fuck I wanted Finnish tears to finish off the day
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On March 09 2015 06:19 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:10 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:On March 09 2015 05:33 Arcanefrost wrote:
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I have watched some ptitdrogo pvz and I wasn't particularly impressed, I don't think he stands a chance versus serral He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there. Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature? sure, I'm Ejwoda.197 on EU
Boxerfred.299
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looking at the groups again, can't wait for naniwa firecake
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On March 09 2015 06:25 Aeromi wrote:Who does not ? :>
Why do you always have to be like this? :/
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On March 09 2015 06:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:19 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:10 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote:
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He beat only Zergs when he qualified for WCS, including Nerchio, Serral and Snute. But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there. Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature? sure, I'm Ejwoda.197 on EU Boxerfred.299
so who streams that
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On March 09 2015 06:27 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:25 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:24 Heartland wrote:
I have Stephano gossip btw Who does not ? :> Why do you always have to be like this? :/
That was a joke, we all (?) know that Stephano likes to party and do weird/creepy/funny things when he's drunk.
I thought players were paid 160$ for this tournament.
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On March 09 2015 06:21 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:21 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice? I mean someone pretty much always does especially if the player who gets eliminated with a 3-2 h2h map score like will happen if serral loses 1-2 This group format sucks for the players, round robin pls.
I remember that players seemed to prefer this format compared to round robin though.
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On March 09 2015 06:28 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:27 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 06:25 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:24 Heartland wrote:
I have Stephano gossip btw Who does not ? :> Why do you always have to be like this? :/ That was a joke, we all (?) know that Stephano likes to party and do weird/creepy/funny things when he's drunk.
I'm teasing. Anyway, one of my teammates played a Stephano account on ladder (which seemed to be him) and he immediately left the game after saying something like "No ZvZ, practicing." So what's he praccing for?! Dun dun
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VR Colo gateway... this is like 2010...
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On March 09 2015 06:29 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:21 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:21 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 06:20 Luolis wrote:
Can i whine about this group format and how serral would be through if he didnt have to face rain twice? I mean someone pretty much always does especially if the player who gets eliminated with a 3-2 h2h map score like will happen if serral loses 1-2 This group format sucks for the players, round robin pls. I remember that players seemed to prefer this format compared to round robin though.
Heyheyhey, the Great RR Prophet has agreed that discussions about RR vs GSL are restricted to after the games are played out.
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Finnish mutas best mutas yo
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this observer... wtf man... show the action...
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On March 09 2015 06:29 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:28 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:27 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 06:25 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:24 Heartland wrote:
I have Stephano gossip btw Who does not ? :> Why do you always have to be like this? :/ That was a joke, we all (?) know that Stephano likes to party and do weird/creepy/funny things when he's drunk. I'm teasing. Anyway, one of my teammates played a Stephano account on ladder (which seemed to be him) and he immediately left the game after saying something like "No ZvZ, practicing." So what's he praccing for?! Dun dun
wow dude
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"I make muta and roach and win"
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that was well defended by Serral
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Belgica34432 Posts
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(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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hyvää suomi!!!
europe holds
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If my predictions come true while it was intended with MMA playing instead of MillLord I'll laugh
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On March 09 2015 06:33 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:29 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 06:28 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:27 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 06:25 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:24 Heartland wrote:
I have Stephano gossip btw Who does not ? :> Why do you always have to be like this? :/ That was a joke, we all (?) know that Stephano likes to party and do weird/creepy/funny things when he's drunk. I'm teasing. Anyway, one of my teammates played a Stephano account on ladder (which seemed to be him) and he immediately left the game after saying something like "No ZvZ, practicing." So what's he praccing for?! Dun dun wow dude
Maybe he just didn't want to play ZvZ as he hates this match-up. He's a troll.
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United States97276 Posts
Here comes the 3-2 head to head loss
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On March 09 2015 06:36 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:33 Makro wrote:On March 09 2015 06:29 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 06:28 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:27 Heartland wrote:On March 09 2015 06:25 Aeromi wrote:On March 09 2015 06:24 Heartland wrote:
I have Stephano gossip btw Who does not ? :> Why do you always have to be like this? :/ That was a joke, we all (?) know that Stephano likes to party and do weird/creepy/funny things when he's drunk. I'm teasing. Anyway, one of my teammates played a Stephano account on ladder (which seemed to be him) and he immediately left the game after saying something like "No ZvZ, practicing." So what's he praccing for?! Dun dun wow dude Maybe he just didn't want to play ZvZ as he hates this match-up. He's a troll.
To be more precise, he said that he had some kind of mental block with ZvZ.
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On March 09 2015 06:27 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:26 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:19 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:10 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:39 boxerfred wrote:
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But Nerchio lost to 2015 Naniwa so he's a bad player i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there. Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature? sure, I'm Ejwoda.197 on EU Boxerfred.299 so who streams that
I'll do imba first person view
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lol Demu just can't let this go
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On March 09 2015 06:37 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:27 Alchemik wrote:On March 09 2015 06:26 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:19 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:10 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 06:05 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 06:04 boxerfred wrote:On March 09 2015 05:57 Ej_ wrote:On March 09 2015 05:56 Shellshock wrote:On March 09 2015 05:41 Ej_ wrote:
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i'll grudgematch you if you say that again You have to play on eu though or it'll get dodged don't worry I'm not TelecoM Tomorrow, 6.30pm CET? ok, I'll do my best to be there. Yeah I might be fifteen minutes late or so. Public transport. Loser puts a degrading signature? sure, I'm Ejwoda.197 on EU Boxerfred.299 so who streams that I'll do imba first person view
we need casting though
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has Rain been going air every game vs Serral? ...
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The 3-2 loss, what a joke.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 67% ★★★- Good game (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format
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On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format
it's the lesser of all evils
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God damn ugh I've seen this ff bullcrap on that third so many times god damn it...
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Instead of bitching about the format how about just try to enjoy the games? Both series were pretty good (other than the hour long SH game.)
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I don't like the format either, but the "3-2 loss" argument is retarded. They didn't play a bo5, they played a bo3 twice. That's quite a huge fucking difference.
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On March 09 2015 06:45 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format it's the lesser of all evils
Not really, its kinda retarded how the system works for some people.
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Looks like Demu and Nat have no fuckin' clue about the tournament format and Serral being on the loser bracket
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Hey guys. The better player won. =)
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On March 09 2015 06:46 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:45 nkr wrote:On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format it's the lesser of all evils Not really, its kinda retarded how the system works for some people.
Aaaand here we go again. Lemme grab some popcorn.
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On March 09 2015 06:48 Serimek wrote:
Looks like Demu and Nat have no fuckin' clue about the tournament format and Serral being on the loser bracket
Yeah, that was a little disappointing.
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On March 09 2015 06:46 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:45 nkr wrote:On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format it's the lesser of all evils Not really, its kinda retarded how the system works for some people.
there is no better way to do a group stage (or less bad way, depending on how you look at it)
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On March 09 2015 06:48 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:46 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:45 nkr wrote:On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format it's the lesser of all evils Not really, its kinda retarded how the system works for some people. Aaaand here we go again. Lemme grab some popcorn.
So you dont think that the system was unfair to serral in this scenario. Care to explain why?
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On March 09 2015 06:49 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:48 OtherWorld wrote:On March 09 2015 06:46 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:45 nkr wrote:On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format it's the lesser of all evils Not really, its kinda retarded how the system works for some people. Aaaand here we go again. Lemme grab some popcorn. So you dont think that the system was unfair to serral in this scenario. Care to explain why?
I already had this debate, and learned that nothing useful comes from it anyway. And you guessed my opinion wrong, btw.
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Guys arguing about GSL format, if you're bitter because of Serral loss, remember that with the loser bracket, he is not out yet.
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On March 09 2015 06:48 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Hey guys. The better player won. =)
NO! 2-3! ITS NOT FAIR!
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pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping
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On March 09 2015 06:52 nkr wrote:
pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping
Crazy how protoss do that.
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On March 09 2015 06:53 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:52 nkr wrote:
pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping Crazy how protoss do that.
That's quite a bad call :/
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On March 09 2015 06:53 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:52 nkr wrote:
pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping Crazy how protoss do that.
there are times when crying about balance makes sense; this is not one of those times
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It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one.
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On March 09 2015 06:45 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:45 Larkin wrote:
what a surprise
GSL groups does it again
such a poor format it's the lesser of all evils
I think it's just the fastest/most efficient. Other variants take too long. That's the only reason we stick with it. Time.
I think a Champions League style group would be more fair.
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On March 09 2015 06:55 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:53 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:52 nkr wrote:
pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping Crazy how protoss do that. there are times when crying about balance makes sense; this is not one of those times
im just joking
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Remember, Serral is still in it, he drops down to LB
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On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one.
Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance.
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On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance.
So beating Ptitdrogo is a worse result than losing to Marinelord?
Ok...
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On March 09 2015 06:59 KingAlphard wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. So beating Ptitdrogo is a worse result than losing to Marinelord? Ok...
Id argue that given a chance Serral would beat ptitdrogo and rain wouldve prolly lost to marinelord tonight.
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On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance.
I can't believe I am going to argue against this logic...That's like saying if TaeJa wins IEM the whole finals was unfair because he came from the weak side of the bracket. He's still the one with money in the bank.
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On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:55 nkr wrote:On March 09 2015 06:53 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:52 nkr wrote:
pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping Crazy how protoss do that. there are times when crying about balance makes sense; this is not one of those times im just joking
I don't believe you. You're as salty as I am when Naniwa wins a game.
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On March 09 2015 07:00 CAG Husker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. I can't believe I am going to argue against this logic...That's like saying if TaeJa wins IEM the whole finals was unfair because he came from the weak side of the bracket. He's still the one with money in the bank.
Yea thats exactly why i think round robin is a better format, as all the players actually face eachother. Its a more balanced group stage format.
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On March 09 2015 07:01 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 nkr wrote:On March 09 2015 06:53 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:52 nkr wrote:
pretty insane that rain gets out of such a hard group with kr->eu ping Crazy how protoss do that. there are times when crying about balance makes sense; this is not one of those times im just joking I don't believe you. You're so salty like I am when Naniwa wins a game.
Im salty that naniwa wins, because naniwa, not protoss
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On March 09 2015 07:01 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 07:00 CAG Husker wrote:On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. I can't believe I am going to argue against this logic...That's like saying if TaeJa wins IEM the whole finals was unfair because he came from the weak side of the bracket. He's still the one with money in the bank. Yea thats exactly why i think round robin is a better format, as all the players actually face eachother. Its a more balanced group stage format.
I would love for IEM to last over two months, but it's just not realistic to get all the players to play each other. That's an absurd amount of matches.
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On March 09 2015 07:04 CAG Husker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 07:01 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 07:00 CAG Husker wrote:On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. I can't believe I am going to argue against this logic...That's like saying if TaeJa wins IEM the whole finals was unfair because he came from the weak side of the bracket. He's still the one with money in the bank. Yea thats exactly why i think round robin is a better format, as all the players actually face eachother. Its a more balanced group stage format. I would love for IEM to last over two months, but it's just not realistic to get all the players to play each other. That's an absurd amount of matches.
Round robin in group stages =/= round robin in bracket stages O_o
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On March 09 2015 06:59 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 06:59 KingAlphard wrote:On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. So beating Ptitdrogo is a worse result than losing to Marinelord? Ok... Id argue that given a chance Serral would beat ptitdrogo and rain wouldve prolly lost to marinelord tonight.
But you can't be sure about that, and even then it would be 2-2 versus 2-2 bo3 score between Rain and Serral, so it still wouldn't be a situation where the player with the worse performance advanced.
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On March 09 2015 07:05 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 07:04 CAG Husker wrote:On March 09 2015 07:01 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 07:00 CAG Husker wrote:On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. I can't believe I am going to argue against this logic...That's like saying if TaeJa wins IEM the whole finals was unfair because he came from the weak side of the bracket. He's still the one with money in the bank. Yea thats exactly why i think round robin is a better format, as all the players actually face eachother. Its a more balanced group stage format. I would love for IEM to last over two months, but it's just not realistic to get all the players to play each other. That's an absurd amount of matches. Round robin in group stages =/= round robin in bracket stages O_o
That is true, but why should there be groups in the first place? Some groups will always be weaker than others, so it's still 'unfair'.
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On March 09 2015 07:07 CAG Husker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 07:05 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 07:04 CAG Husker wrote:On March 09 2015 07:01 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 07:00 CAG Husker wrote:On March 09 2015 06:56 Luolis wrote:On March 09 2015 06:55 CAG Husker wrote:
It's totally fair. In the end, Rain won two series while Serral only won one. Rain also played vs the easiest player in the group, while serral didnt get the chance. I can't believe I am going to argue against this logic...That's like saying if TaeJa wins IEM the whole finals was unfair because he came from the weak side of the bracket. He's still the one with money in the bank. Yea thats exactly why i think round robin is a better format, as all the players actually face eachother. Its a more balanced group stage format. I would love for IEM to last over two months, but it's just not realistic to get all the players to play each other. That's an absurd amount of matches. Round robin in group stages =/= round robin in bracket stages O_o That is true, but why should there be groups in the first place? Some groups will always be weaker than others, so it's still 'unfair'.
Okay, i give up for having the groups to be balanced and more fair. Why would we like fairness.
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YES! YES! The discussion began without me! The Revolution comes! Down with Double-Elim!
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It's an open secret that Round Robin is the only fair system.
The question is rather, how much more time consuming is it and how unfair is it if your last match is against a player that is already sure to go out and who might not give a fuck about the game. Or if he is a whiney bitch that cannot deal with losing acts like a little baby and throws in the most obvious way.
On a different note, how did Serral win the first set against Rain?
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On March 09 2015 08:38 Big J wrote:
It's an open secret that Round Robin is the only fair system.
No it isn't, lol.
It's true that the reason it is used less is because it's much easier to schedule a double elimination group, as you know all matches are relevant and you know how many of them there will be with a certainty.
But it doesn't follow that we lose a whole ton when it comes to fairness. The notion that what happened in this group was unfair is pretty much arbitrary.
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On March 09 2015 08:38 Big J wrote:
It's an open secret that Round Robin is the only fair system.
The question is rather, how much more time consuming is it and how unfair is it if your last match is against a player that is already sure to go out and who might not give a fuck about the game. Or if he is a whiney bitch that cannot deal with losing acts like a little baby and throws in the most obvious way.
On a different note, how did Serral win the first set against Rain?
I only caught the end of the first map which was a Swarm Host vs Tempest basetrade which was a pretty easy win for Serral. The second game was on Expedition Lost and Serral took the gold as his 2nd base and his forward base as his 3rd (so his backdoor base wasn't taken yet) and Rain tried to kill his gold with a 2 base Gateway push which was held pretty easily with Roaches.
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Round Robin is a terrible format and clearly not the fairest just imagine following scenario which isn't uncommon:
Player A 2-0
Player B 1-1
Player C 1-1
Player D 0-2
The last games are Player A vs Player B and Player C vs Player D. How is that fair at all? Player D might be the weakest Player of the group but you can bet that he tried his best in the first two games while now he is already eliminated for sure and probably a walk over for Player C because the game has no meaning whatsoever for him.
Also Round Robin makes it a lot easier for match fixing to happen.
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On March 09 2015 09:08 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 08:38 Big J wrote:
It's an open secret that Round Robin is the only fair system. No it isn't, lol. It's true that the reason it is used less is because it's much easier to schedule a double elimination group, as you know all matches are relevant and you know how many of them there will be with a certainty. But it doesn't follow that we lose a whole ton when it comes to fairness. The notion that what happened in this group was unfair is pretty much arbitrary.
It's easily mathematically proveable that - assuming everyone plays his heart out - the outcome of a double elimination group is largely dependend on who you go up against first. It is therefore wrong to say that everyone in such a "group" has an equal chance of advancing.
Hell, how often have we read "I hope X makes it through but having to play against Y first is going to be tough". Exactly. Playing against certain people first is a disadvantage given that player's skills and forms differ.
In no way am I interested in a discussion about this group though, since I didn't even see it. My only point was that Round Robin is obviously fairer if we could ensure sportsmanship and didn't have to worry about game lengths. Which we can't and have to and the used bracket gives us just that for the price of being a little bit unfair.
On March 09 2015 09:21 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 08:38 Big J wrote:
It's an open secret that Round Robin is the only fair system.
The question is rather, how much more time consuming is it and how unfair is it if your last match is against a player that is already sure to go out and who might not give a fuck about the game. Or if he is a whiney bitch that cannot deal with losing acts like a little baby and throws in the most obvious way.
On a different note, how did Serral win the first set against Rain? I only caught the end of the first map which was a Swarm Host vs Tempest basetrade which was a pretty easy win for Serral. The second game was on Expedition Lost and Serral took the gold as his 2nd base and his forward base as his 3rd (so his backdoor base wasn't taken yet) and Rain tried to kill his gold with a 2 base Gateway push which was held pretty easily with Roaches.
thanks a lot! That gold base EL game sounds like I need to look it up
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[pathetic attempt at quoting]
It comes down to the traditional conflict between something slightly unfair that happens a lot and something much more unfair that happens less often.
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On March 09 2015 09:22 lohdon wrote:
Round Robin is a terrible format and clearly not the fairest just imagine following scenario which isn't uncommon:
Player A 2-0
Player B 1-1
Player C 1-1
Player D 0-2
The last games are Player A vs Player B and Player C vs Player D. How is that fair at all? Player D might be the weakest Player of the group but you can bet that he tried his best in the first two games while now he is already eliminated for sure and probably a walk over for Player C because the game has no meaning whatsoever for him.
Also Round Robin makes it a lot easier for match fixing to happen.
If player A wins player b, and player D wins player C theres still a chance for D to go through lol. Your scenario fails.
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On March 09 2015 09:22 lohdon wrote:
Round Robin is a terrible format and clearly not the fairest just imagine following scenario which isn't uncommon:
Player A 2-0
Player B 1-1
Player C 1-1
Player D 0-2
The last games are Player A vs Player B and Player C vs Player D. How is that fair at all? Player D might be the weakest Player of the group but you can bet that he tried his best in the first two games while now he is already eliminated for sure and probably a walk over for Player C because the game has no meaning whatsoever for him.
Also Round Robin makes it a lot easier for match fixing to happen.
Thanks for the example! Best example why Round Robin is fair since all four players still have a chance to advance
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Belgica34432 Posts
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All these replacements
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Due to personal preferences. Yeah, he's probably not wanting to play against Firecake.
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Personal preferences? Isn't the usual term "personal circumstances"? >.>
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NOOOO I wanted to see more Naniwa! Its all good just glad knowing he's back in the scene playing for fun.
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naniwa disappointing fans as usual. get your shit together dude.
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On March 10 2015 01:19 theBALLS wrote:
naniwa disappointing fans as usual. get your shit together dude.
Actually according to someone in his fanclub he never accepted the invitation.
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EPT
