★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★★★ - Good game (6)
46%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Zest vs herO?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
7%
★★★ - Good game (8)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (20)
45%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (11)
25%
44 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Flash vs ByuL?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (9)
64%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs Bbyong?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★ - Good game (2)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs Sora?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★ - Good game (7)
58%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Zest < herO herO looking pretty unstoppable right now. I'd say he's the best Korean protons in the world. Good macro, good micro, good decision making. MC is a true God of Protoss and even herO managed to beat him. If that doesnt say "best Protoss on earth" then I don't know what does. Zest is in an unrecoverable slump right now anyways. The combination of zest being in one of the biggest slumps ever plus herO being the best Protoss in the world makes me favor herO.
Flash < byul well, flash isn't trying that hard these days. Actually I think KT is just letting him stick around for the fans. But oh well let's hope flash surprises us.
Life > Bbyong. The best player in the world against a player with no tournament wins. It's pretty obvious who will win.
Stats > sora. Sora is in a slump. He has been for months. Stats has been a rising star lately so.... yeah
Ace: Life > herO life already completely destroyed herO and knocked him out of the GSL. Life will definitely beat herO Again. Life is just a monster that can't be stopped at all
i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
I love how Flash bounces between being over rated and under rated.
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
soO didn't want to show a 2 hour turtle game to the viewers so maxed on corrptors BL killed yoda's army then pulled back instead of camping starports. Oh and he lost all his drones in the mean time. 75 corruptors were fun to see tho.
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
do NOT watch this game. You will be bored. And as a Zerg player suicidial. But a little glad too to have another example why you need to SH turtle against Mech. But mostly you will hate the game and blizzard for not fixing Mech.
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
do NOT watch this game. You will be bored. And as a Zerg player suicidial. But a little glad too to have another example why you need to SH turtle against Mech. But mostly you will hate the game and blizzard for not fixing Mech.
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
do NOT watch this game. You will be bored. And as a Zerg player suicidial. But a little glad too to have another example why you need to SH turtle against Mech. But mostly you will hate the game and blizzard for not fixing Mech.
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
do NOT watch this game. You will be bored. And as a Zerg player suicidial. But a little glad too to have another example why you need to SH turtle against Mech. But mostly you will hate the game and blizzard for not fixing Mech.
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
I love how Flash bounces between being over rated and under rated.
The greatest flaw of human nature; Oversimplifying by polarization
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
do NOT watch this game. You will be bored. And as a Zerg player suicidial. But a little glad too to have another example why you need to SH turtle against Mech. But mostly you will hate the game and blizzard for not fixing Mech.
I fell asleep during this game.
Me too, but when I woke up the LR rage was pretty great.
On March 03 2015 20:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote: just got up after 24 hours of no sleep, how was skt v prime?
soO vs Yoda = Game of the year
there better have been fucking swarm hosts or i will be disappointed
do NOT watch this game. You will be bored. And as a Zerg player suicidial. But a little glad too to have another example why you need to SH turtle against Mech. But mostly you will hate the game and blizzard for not fixing Mech.
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
i'll actually be cheering for him. i don't dislike Flash and Terran is my favorite race in sc2. i guess i'm just kinda proud of making a really obvious prediction a long time ago, for whatever that's worth.
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
i'll actually be cheering for him. i don't dislike Flash and Terran is my favorite race in sc2. i guess i'm just kinda proud of making a really obvious prediction a long time ago, for whatever that's worth.
I still remember the Unimpressed Flash meme
threads even funnier now given Flash's sc2 results.
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
i'll actually be cheering for him. i don't dislike Flash and Terran is my favorite race in sc2. i guess i'm just kinda proud of making a really obvious prediction a long time ago, for whatever that's worth.
I mean a lot of great players never won a gsl^^ And there is still time left This wasn't really against you so much, but the general idea of pretty much anyone that flash is terrible is really stupid
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
As if the flash is god thing isn't annoying...
at least there was a time where you couldn't argue that shit.
On March 03 2015 20:21 Schelim wrote: i remember when Flash started playing sc2 and i said he'll never win a GSL. people were shouting at me all over the place. now even casters are like "Flash is gonna play... i don't think he's gonna be any good".
this whole "flash is so bad he won't ever play well again" circlejerk is pretty annoying tbh. I hope he wins today to just stop this...
As if the flash is god thing isn't annoying...
Not too surprising from one of the biggest Flash haters on here haha
Zest spawns in the top left herO spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway for both players, herO's first gas is slower but second gas is slightly faster. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 Zest scouts with a probe, checking for proxies. If there was a proxy 2 gate in this game herO would have already lost. Zest hides a stargate below his main base. Mothership core for both players. herO getting a stalker.
4:00 herO also getting a stargate. Zest building a stalker. Oracle being chronoboosted out for Zest.
5:00 herO's stalker takes shield damage from the MSC and retreats. Zest expands. herO adds two gateways. herO sees the oracle when it's halfway across the map. Oracle forces a photon overcharge but does nothing.
Zest spawns in the top left herO spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway for both players, herO's first gas is slower but second gas is slightly faster. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 Zest scouts with a probe, checking for proxies. If there was a proxy 2 gate in this game herO would have already lost. Zest hides a stargate below his main base. Mothership core for both players. herO getting a stalker.
4:00 herO also getting a stargate. Zest building a stalker. Oracle being chronoboosted out for Zest.
5:00 herO's stalker takes shield damage from the MSC and retreats. Zest expands. herO adds two gateways. herO sees the oracle when it's halfway across the map. Oracle forces a photon overcharge but does nothing.
6:00 herO's oracle is suicided into a phoenix. herO gets a phoenix. Zest getting more phoenixes. herO is also getting more phoenixes. Dark shrine for herO. Phoenixes dance around each other.
7:00 Zest 39 vs herO 39 Both players trade a phoenix. herO's expansion is half done as Zest's finishes. Oracle scouts the dark shrine. Observer is already out for Zest. Zest kills some probes while herO picks off the oracle. Zest still making phoenixes. A DT makes it into Zest's main.
9:00 Zest 51 vs herO 48 Probes are pulled away. The oracle died earlier. Another observer finishes but the DT almost gets away anyway. Twilight council for Zest. herO getting a robotics facility. herO is behind 6-3 on phoenixes and neither player is getting more.
10:00 Zest 58 vs herO 60 Forge for both players. herO researching blink. +1 attack for both players.
Zest spawns in the top left herO spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gateway for both players, herO's first gas is slower but second gas is slightly faster. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 Zest scouts with a probe, checking for proxies. If there was a proxy 2 gate in this game herO would have already lost. Zest hides a stargate below his main base. Mothership core for both players. herO getting a stalker.
4:00 herO also getting a stargate. Zest building a stalker. Oracle being chronoboosted out for Zest.
5:00 herO's stalker takes shield damage from the MSC and retreats. Zest expands. herO adds two gateways. herO sees the oracle when it's halfway across the map. Oracle forces a photon overcharge but does nothing.
6:00 herO's oracle is suicided into a phoenix. herO gets a phoenix. Zest getting more phoenixes. herO is also getting more phoenixes. Dark shrine for herO. Phoenixes dance around each other.
7:00 Zest 39 vs herO 39 Both players trade a phoenix. herO's expansion is half done as Zest's finishes. Oracle scouts the dark shrine. Observer is already out for Zest. Zest kills some probes while herO picks off the oracle. Zest still making phoenixes. A DT makes it into Zest's main.
9:00 Zest 51 vs herO 48 Probes are pulled away. The oracle died earlier. Another observer finishes but the DT almost gets away anyway. Twilight council for Zest. herO getting a robotics facility. herO is behind 6-3 on phoenixes and neither player is getting more.
10:00 Zest 58 vs herO 60 Forge for both players. herO researching blink. +1 attack for both players.
11:00 Zest 62 vs herO 65 herO adding five more gateways, Zest adding three. herO preparing an attack. Zest has an immortal but not much else.
12:00 Zest 76 vs herO 84 herO snipes the immortal. Zest gets out another one after herO retreats. herO blinks into the main and lifts the immortal as well as a lot of the stalkers Zest's phoenixes kill 11 probes on the other side of the map. Zest loses more probes and stalkers and GG's! CJ Entus takes the first map!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★★★ - Good game (6)
46%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Zest vs herO?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
That was such a nonsensical attack by herO. Huge mistake by Zest not bringing his phoenixes home to deal with that or he'd have crushed it and been super far ahead.
On March 03 2015 20:51 boxerfred wrote: It's all open now. Flash can easily lose, and Life is not that consistent in teamleagues somehow. Can go 0-3 faster than one would imagine.
If they are down 0-2 then Life will just go full comeback mode no?
On March 03 2015 20:51 boxerfred wrote: It's all open now. Flash can easily lose, and Life is not that consistent in teamleagues somehow. Can go 0-3 faster than one would imagine.
If they are down 0-2 then Life will just go full comeback mode no?
On March 03 2015 20:51 boxerfred wrote: It's all open now. Flash can easily lose, and Life is not that consistent in teamleagues somehow. Can go 0-3 faster than one would imagine.
If they are down 0-2 then Life will just go full comeback mode no?
On March 03 2015 20:52 OtherWorld wrote: Wow I got warned for a joke on herO/HerO
You got warned for the player bashing one liner
wow that's not really worth a warning imho, especially since OtherWorld isn't really known as the guy who constantly bashes players in a very serious manner, or is he
herO isn't good at PvP just because he won a BO1 that Zest messed up in. I seem to recall several poor PvP losses not involving proxy gates lately, particularly against Stats in the NSSL >.>
On March 03 2015 20:53 Fuell wrote: Zest is overrated.
You're going to rouse Sackofdeadmice
Oh I'm aroused all right.
oh I bet. Just waiting for that 3-0.
Licking those lips, getting all hot and bothered.
Went from six to midnight as soon as that first DT strolled in. If Flash tries to proxy 2rax and fails, I think I might need to go see a doctor; it'll last at least four hours.
I always saw Flash's slump as starting in that IEM vs Parting. He got to the finals and was almost about to cement himself as one of the best and then he lost when he was so, so, so close. I just assumed that he didn't practice a lot after that and that his mentality went down.
On March 03 2015 21:00 BLinD-RawR wrote: lol flash twitching, I haven't seen that in a long time.
It means that shit's serious
its been a long time since I've watched SC2, I just here to watch KT play and I'm genuinely worried about flash, so if it really is a good thing then cool.
On March 03 2015 21:00 Heartland wrote: I always saw Flash's slump as starting in that IEM vs Parting. He got to the finals and was almost about to cement himself as one of the best and then he lost when he was so, so, so close. I just assumed that he didn't practice a lot after that and that his mentality went down.
Do you mean the Homestory Cup that took place in that club?
On March 03 2015 21:00 Heartland wrote: I always saw Flash's slump as starting in that IEM vs Parting. He got to the finals and was almost about to cement himself as one of the best and then he lost when he was so, so, so close. I just assumed that he didn't practice a lot after that and that his mentality went down.
Do you mean the Homestory Cup that took place in that club?
Flash (red) spawns in the top right ByuL (yellow) spawns in the bottom
2:00 Hatchery first versus CC first + scout. Flash getting a barracks/gas. ByuL going with pool/gas.
3:00 Bunker at Flash's front. ByuL getting zerglings/queens.
4:00 Zergling speed for ByuL. Flash getting a factory. Zerglings poke at Flash's front but a bunker is there. Third CC for Flash.
5:00 ByuL taking a third base. Flash getting hellions.
7:00 Flash 61 vs ByuL 72 ByuL getting a baneling nest and two evolution chambers. Flash getting stim, +1/1 and three more barracks.
8:00 Flash 68 vs ByuL 78 Flash landing his third CC next to a spazzing out zergling, which soon dies to a bunch of hellions. Lair for ByuL. Flash's depots are down.
9:00 Flash 86 vs ByuL 91 Combat shields for Flash. ByuL getting a spire. Bunker is at Flash's third along with a depot wall. Zerglings darting around Flash's third base area. Lots of zerglings flooding towards Flash's natural not. Medivacs full of marines go towards ByuL's main base. Zerglings chase the marines which get into a corner of the main. All of ByuL's zerglings die. Banelings gets into Flash's third and kill 20 drones. Flash's drop is still happening. Flash stims into ByuL's new fourth base.
Flash (red) spawns in the top right ByuL (yellow) spawns in the bottom
2:00 Hatchery first versus CC first + scout. Flash getting a barracks/gas. ByuL going with pool/gas.
3:00 Bunker at Flash's front. ByuL getting zerglings/queens.
4:00 Zergling speed for ByuL. Flash getting a factory. Zerglings poke at Flash's front but a bunker is there. Third CC for Flash.
5:00 ByuL taking a third base. Flash getting hellions.
7:00 Flash 61 vs ByuL 72 ByuL getting a baneling nest and two evolution chambers. Flash getting stim, +1/1 and three more barracks.
8:00 Flash 68 vs ByuL 78 Flash landing his third CC next to a spazzing out zergling, which soon dies to a bunch of hellions. Lair for ByuL. Flash's depots are down.
9:00 Flash 86 vs ByuL 91 Combat shields for Flash. ByuL getting a spire. Bunker is at Flash's third along with a depot wall. Zerglings darting around Flash's third base area. Lots of zerglings flooding towards Flash's natural not. Medivacs full of marines go towards ByuL's main base. Zerglings chase the marines which get into a corner of the main. All of ByuL's zerglings die. Banelings gets into Flash's third and kill 20 drones. Flash's drop is still happening. Flash stims into ByuL's new fourth base.
12:00 Flash 128 vs ByuL 121 Flash's attack kills the fourth. Widow mines get a fair amount of damage done to ByuL's zerglings and banelings before being picked off. Flash is safely on three bases still, as is ByuL. ~24 zerglings stream towards Flash's third and kill the bunker while forcing SCVs to be pulled away.
14:00 Flash 153 vs ByuL 141 Mutalisks fly into the main and break down the only turret. Marines being picked off upon finishing. Two thors get into the main and force the mutalisks to back off. Flash has three factories.
15:00 Flash 169 vs ByuL 151 Flash getting tunneling claws. Mutalisks break down the wall at Flash's third but nothing happens as a result. Mutalisks harassing Flash's third before turrets are finished, killing 6 SCVs. Flash getting a fourth CC. Changelings are in Flash's main. A widow mine drop flies over a queen and some zerglings.
On March 03 2015 21:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Life told flash after 10-0 ing him in internal matches, 'perhaps you should build widow mines'. Thus came the second reign of Flash
Yeah looks like training with Life made him realize that his TvZ was kinda bad
On March 03 2015 21:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Life told flash after 10-0 ing him in internal matches, 'perhaps you should build widow mines'. Thus came the second reign of Flash
Yeah looks like training with Life made him realize that his TvZ was kinda bad
He needed Life to beat him up to realize that? He lost to every Zerg left and right.
On March 03 2015 21:13 HellHound wrote: 100 drones
Ret amount of drones
I think it was actually kinda good, in that situation where Flash was passive ByuL just made 12 more drones to morph them into static D and then he' was back at normal 88 drones
Flash (red) spawns in the top right ByuL (yellow) spawns in the bottom
2:00 Hatchery first versus CC first + scout. Flash getting a barracks/gas. ByuL going with pool/gas.
3:00 Bunker at Flash's front. ByuL getting zerglings/queens.
4:00 Zergling speed for ByuL. Flash getting a factory. Zerglings poke at Flash's front but a bunker is there. Third CC for Flash.
5:00 ByuL taking a third base. Flash getting hellions.
7:00 Flash 61 vs ByuL 72 ByuL getting a baneling nest and two evolution chambers. Flash getting stim, +1/1 and three more barracks.
8:00 Flash 68 vs ByuL 78 Flash landing his third CC next to a spazzing out zergling, which soon dies to a bunch of hellions. Lair for ByuL. Flash's depots are down.
9:00 Flash 86 vs ByuL 91 Combat shields for Flash. ByuL getting a spire. Bunker is at Flash's third along with a depot wall. Zerglings darting around Flash's third base area. Lots of zerglings flooding towards Flash's natural not. Medivacs full of marines go towards ByuL's main base. Zerglings chase the marines which get into a corner of the main. All of ByuL's zerglings die. Banelings gets into Flash's third and kill 20 drones. Flash's drop is still happening. Flash stims into ByuL's new fourth base.
12:00 Flash 128 vs ByuL 121 Flash's attack kills the fourth. Widow mines get a fair amount of damage done to ByuL's zerglings and banelings before being picked off. Flash is safely on three bases still, as is ByuL. ~24 zerglings stream towards Flash's third and kill the bunker while forcing SCVs to be pulled away.
14:00 Flash 153 vs ByuL 141 Mutalisks fly into the main and break down the only turret. Marines being picked off upon finishing. Two thors get into the main and force the mutalisks to back off. Flash has three factories.
15:00 Flash 169 vs ByuL 151 Flash getting tunneling claws. Mutalisks break down the wall at Flash's third but nothing happens as a result. Mutalisks harassing Flash's third before turrets are finished, killing 6 SCVs. Flash getting a fourth CC. Changelings are in Flash's main. A widow mine drop flies over a queen and some zerglings.
16:00 Flash 188 vs ByuL 172 Flash's widow mine drop kills seven drones. Infestation pit for ByuL. ByuL getting 22 more drones and a hive. Another CC outside Flash's natural expansion.
17:00 Flash 199 vs ByuL 199 Flash getting a 6th CC. Mutalisks pick off a drop. Flash taking his fourth while ByuL takes a fifth base.
18:00 Flash 195 vs ByuL 193 Flash attempts a drop on the fourth which is denied, so he goes to the natural. Flash catches a lot of ByuL's army off creep, getting a lot of easily kills. Another mine drop in ByuL's fifth base kills 14 drones. +3/3 finishing for Flash. Adrenal glands finishing for ByuL. ByuL starts two simultaneous ultralisks caverns next to each other. Greater spire for ByuL.
20:00 Flash 200 vs ByuL 197 ByuL getting 33 more banelings, bringing him to 65. Ultralisk armor and +3/3 for ByuL. ByuL rolling tons of banelings into a PF outside Flash's natural. ByuL ransacks the third base but gets eventually cleaned up.
Flash (red) spawns in the top right ByuL (yellow) spawns in the bottom
2:00 Hatchery first versus CC first + scout. Flash getting a barracks/gas. ByuL going with pool/gas.
3:00 Bunker at Flash's front. ByuL getting zerglings/queens.
4:00 Zergling speed for ByuL. Flash getting a factory. Zerglings poke at Flash's front but a bunker is there. Third CC for Flash.
5:00 ByuL taking a third base. Flash getting hellions.
7:00 Flash 61 vs ByuL 72 ByuL getting a baneling nest and two evolution chambers. Flash getting stim, +1/1 and three more barracks.
8:00 Flash 68 vs ByuL 78 Flash landing his third CC next to a spazzing out zergling, which soon dies to a bunch of hellions. Lair for ByuL. Flash's depots are down.
9:00 Flash 86 vs ByuL 91 Combat shields for Flash. ByuL getting a spire. Bunker is at Flash's third along with a depot wall. Zerglings darting around Flash's third base area. Lots of zerglings flooding towards Flash's natural not. Medivacs full of marines go towards ByuL's main base. Zerglings chase the marines which get into a corner of the main. All of ByuL's zerglings die. Banelings gets into Flash's third and kill 20 drones. Flash's drop is still happening. Flash stims into ByuL's new fourth base.
12:00 Flash 128 vs ByuL 121 Flash's attack kills the fourth. Widow mines get a fair amount of damage done to ByuL's zerglings and banelings before being picked off. Flash is safely on three bases still, as is ByuL. ~24 zerglings stream towards Flash's third and kill the bunker while forcing SCVs to be pulled away.
14:00 Flash 153 vs ByuL 141 Mutalisks fly into the main and break down the only turret. Marines being picked off upon finishing. Two thors get into the main and force the mutalisks to back off. Flash has three factories.
15:00 Flash 169 vs ByuL 151 Flash getting tunneling claws. Mutalisks break down the wall at Flash's third but nothing happens as a result. Mutalisks harassing Flash's third before turrets are finished, killing 6 SCVs. Flash getting a fourth CC. Changelings are in Flash's main. A widow mine drop flies over a queen and some zerglings.
16:00 Flash 188 vs ByuL 172 Flash's widow mine drop kills seven drones. Infestation pit for ByuL. ByuL getting 22 more drones and a hive. Another CC outside Flash's natural expansion.
17:00 Flash 199 vs ByuL 199 Flash getting a 6th CC. Mutalisks pick off a drop. Flash taking his fourth while ByuL takes a fifth base.
18:00 Flash 195 vs ByuL 193 Flash attempts a drop on the fourth which is denied, so he goes to the natural. Flash catches a lot of ByuL's army off creep, getting a lot of easily kills. Another mine drop in ByuL's fifth base kills 14 drones. +3/3 finishing for Flash. Adrenal glands finishing for ByuL. ByuL starts two simultaneous ultralisks caverns next to each other. Greater spire for ByuL.
20:00 Flash 200 vs ByuL 197 ByuL getting 33 more banelings, bringing him to 65. Ultralisk armor and +3/3 for ByuL. ByuL rolling tons of banelings into a PF outside Flash's natural. ByuL ransacks the third base but gets eventually cleaned up.
22:00 Flash 177 vs ByuL 179 ByuL has four brood lords and is getting more. Mutalisks are trapped between Flash's natural and third but most of them get out. Flash abusing the cliff above the fifth base of ByuL.
23:00 Flash 198 vs ByuL 193 Brood lords are revealed. Flash drops the 6th of ByuL. A few banelings roll into Flash's third and kill 7 SCVs. Flash is on four bases currently. Flash sneaks his entire army into the fourth base. Tons of widow mines burrow next to each other and kill nearby banelings. Ultralisks show up and clean up the army.
25:00 Flash 152 vs ByuL 187 Flash's new fifth is threatened. Flash kills ByuL's 6th base but gets forced back by the ultralisks. ByuL rebuilding the 6th base. Brood lords siege the fourth of Flash. Flash going around the army. Lots of drones are long distance mining from ByuL's old fourth base. Ultralisks try to clean up Flash's army. Vikings show up to deal with the brood lords. Banelings reinforce the ultralisks and some mutalisks show up. Flash's attack is not quite cleaned up and kills 20 drones. A drop on ByuL's fifth is denied. Flash regrouping.
Someone should tell those koreans, that gglords are called so because you either get to them to end the game right after building them (thus the original meaning) or you lose (thus the current meaning).
Flash (red) spawns in the top right ByuL (yellow) spawns in the bottom
2:00 Hatchery first versus CC first + scout. Flash getting a barracks/gas. ByuL going with pool/gas.
3:00 Bunker at Flash's front. ByuL getting zerglings/queens.
4:00 Zergling speed for ByuL. Flash getting a factory. Zerglings poke at Flash's front but a bunker is there. Third CC for Flash.
5:00 ByuL taking a third base. Flash getting hellions.
7:00 Flash 61 vs ByuL 72 ByuL getting a baneling nest and two evolution chambers. Flash getting stim, +1/1 and three more barracks.
8:00 Flash 68 vs ByuL 78 Flash landing his third CC next to a spazzing out zergling, which soon dies to a bunch of hellions. Lair for ByuL. Flash's depots are down.
9:00 Flash 86 vs ByuL 91 Combat shields for Flash. ByuL getting a spire. Bunker is at Flash's third along with a depot wall. Zerglings darting around Flash's third base area. Lots of zerglings flooding towards Flash's natural not. Medivacs full of marines go towards ByuL's main base. Zerglings chase the marines which get into a corner of the main. All of ByuL's zerglings die. Banelings gets into Flash's third and kill 20 drones. Flash's drop is still happening. Flash stims into ByuL's new fourth base.
12:00 Flash 128 vs ByuL 121 Flash's attack kills the fourth. Widow mines get a fair amount of damage done to ByuL's zerglings and banelings before being picked off. Flash is safely on three bases still, as is ByuL. ~24 zerglings stream towards Flash's third and kill the bunker while forcing SCVs to be pulled away.
14:00 Flash 153 vs ByuL 141 Mutalisks fly into the main and break down the only turret. Marines being picked off upon finishing. Two thors get into the main and force the mutalisks to back off. Flash has three factories.
15:00 Flash 169 vs ByuL 151 Flash getting tunneling claws. Mutalisks break down the wall at Flash's third but nothing happens as a result. Mutalisks harassing Flash's third before turrets are finished, killing 6 SCVs. Flash getting a fourth CC. Changelings are in Flash's main. A widow mine drop flies over a queen and some zerglings.
16:00 Flash 188 vs ByuL 172 Flash's widow mine drop kills seven drones. Infestation pit for ByuL. ByuL getting 22 more drones and a hive. Another CC outside Flash's natural expansion.
17:00 Flash 199 vs ByuL 199 Flash getting a 6th CC. Mutalisks pick off a drop. Flash taking his fourth while ByuL takes a fifth base.
18:00 Flash 195 vs ByuL 193 Flash attempts a drop on the fourth which is denied, so he goes to the natural. Flash catches a lot of ByuL's army off creep, getting a lot of easily kills. Another mine drop in ByuL's fifth base kills 14 drones. +3/3 finishing for Flash. Adrenal glands finishing for ByuL. ByuL starts two simultaneous ultralisks caverns next to each other. Greater spire for ByuL.
20:00 Flash 200 vs ByuL 197 ByuL getting 33 more banelings, bringing him to 65. Ultralisk armor and +3/3 for ByuL. ByuL rolling tons of banelings into a PF outside Flash's natural. ByuL ransacks the third base but gets eventually cleaned up.
22:00 Flash 177 vs ByuL 179 ByuL has four brood lords and is getting more. Mutalisks are trapped between Flash's natural and third but most of them get out. Flash abusing the cliff above the fifth base of ByuL.
23:00 Flash 198 vs ByuL 193 Brood lords are revealed. Flash drops the 6th of ByuL. A few banelings roll into Flash's third and kill 7 SCVs. Flash is on four bases currently. Flash sneaks his entire army into the fourth base. Tons of widow mines burrow next to each other and kill nearby banelings. Ultralisks show up and clean up the army.
25:00 Flash 152 vs ByuL 187 Flash's new fifth is threatened. Flash kills ByuL's 6th base but gets forced back by the ultralisks. ByuL rebuilding the 6th base. Brood lords siege the fourth of Flash. Flash going around the army. Lots of drones are long distance mining from ByuL's old fourth base. Ultralisks try to clean up Flash's army. Vikings show up to deal with the brood lords. Banelings reinforce the ultralisks and some mutalisks show up. Flash's attack is not quite cleaned up and kills 20 drones. A drop on ByuL's fifth is denied. Flash regrouping.
27:00 Flash 175 vs ByuL 128 ByuL going for another attack with brood lords and mutalisks only. Flash shows up with 20 vikings and picks off the brood lords one by one. ByuL GG's! Flash brings the series back to 1-1!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
7%
★★★ - Good game (8)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (20)
45%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (11)
25%
44 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Flash vs ByuL?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
7%
★★★ - Good game (8)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (20)
45%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (11)
25%
44 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Flash vs ByuL?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
Needs more Snutehosts imo. Asking again, is there any korean that has gone for SH vs bio?
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
On March 03 2015 21:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: well i am happy that flash won, but i feel like byul building broodlords was a big mistake
Byul should have went in for the kill when he had the broodlords and flash didn't have anything else. Flash bought time to get vikings when he attacked Byul's 4th and 5th. Plus at the last part Byul didn't focus, lost all his ultras to marauders in the middle of the map, lost half his broodlords that were destroying Flash's 4th because his mutas were away, etc etc.
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
Cure is doing this also I think
Cure did 8 rax before 4th in most of his recent online TvZ that I watched. He macroes ultra well tho so he can get a quick 4th if he max quickly.
On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote: Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio?
the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead
Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH.
Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.
Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
Cure is doing this also I think
Cure did 8 rax before 4th in most of his recent online TvZ that I watched. He macroes ultra well tho so he can get a quick 4th if he max quickly.
You mean the series vs Snute? I only remember him as very passive in his opening and then tearing Snute apart later on. But it might have been with more rax focus
On March 03 2015 21:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: well i am happy that flash won, but i feel like byul building broodlords was a big mistake
Byul should have went in for the kill when he had the broodlords and flash didn't have anything else. Flash bought time to get vikings when he attacked Byul's 4th and 5th. Plus at the last part Byul didn't focus, lost all his ultras to marauders in the middle of the map, lost half his broodlords that were destroying Flash's 4th because his mutas were away, etc etc.
Flash has plenty of time to prepare and he could snipe bases way faster than broodlord taking down a PF
Ok, I may be brainlagging but the only featured stream on TL is the AZUBU one, which is usually the Korean one, if I'm not mistaken. Tho the commentaries on that one is also in english. I'm really confused
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.
Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
you delay quite a lot your prod so you can soak up the 1st wave but i'm not sure about the second. the 3marau prod helps quite a lot vs mass bane/low muta style (true does that all the time).
Sure if you hold you're in a very good spot but it'd be risky. Depends of the maps etc of course
On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote: Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio?
the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead
Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH.
Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
I dunno, the 6-8th rax are delayed so they can't put out as much pressure as usual. I asked Snute on twitter, hopefully he responds!
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
Cure is doing this also I think
Cure did 8 rax before 4th in most of his recent online TvZ that I watched. He macroes ultra well tho so he can get a quick 4th if he max quickly.
You mean the series vs Snute? I only remember him as very passive in his opening and then tearing Snute apart later on. But it might have been with more rax focus
I remember some 3 marau/10rines prod which is the 8rax setup. Will have to check (and in the kung fu qualifier too there are Cure games, it is so good to get tons of Cure vods these days)
On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote: Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio?
the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead
Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH.
Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
You can max and then transition. :D When snute fails vs the magical korean terrans it cause he falls behind early on, if he enters the midgame on even footing he does well with the style.
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.
Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
you delay quite a lot your prod so you can soak up the 1st wave but i'm not sure about the second. the 3marau prod helps quite a lot vs mass bane/low muta style (true does that all the time).
Sure if you hold you're in a very good spot but it'd be risky. Depends of the maps etc of course
It'll be interesting to keep an eye on this style for sure ^_^. Metagame shifts are the most exciting thing around!!
On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote: Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio?
the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead
Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH.
Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
You can max and then transition. :D When snute fails vs the magical korean terrans it cause he falls behind early on, if he enters the midgame on even footing he does well with the style.
You are gonna need some supply to build hosts. You'll need at least 8, preferably more for them to fulfill any purpose...
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.
Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
We even saw a mass baneling yolo this game and it did very little. (imo the point when ByuL gave away his lead and started falling behind) But I also don't think that this style is very strong. The zerg should be able to deny the 5th base (what ByuL didn't) with mass mutas (which ByuL hadn't) and get a pretty sick ultra/baneling/infestor deathball to go with it when you are that passive. And then it's a Terran that eventually has to attack because he can't get a 5th properly and the zerg has like 6bases but he has to fight into said deathball on creep.
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote: That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?
It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.
Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
you delay quite a lot your prod so you can soak up the 1st wave but i'm not sure about the second. the 3marau prod helps quite a lot vs mass bane/low muta style (true does that all the time).
Sure if you hold you're in a very good spot but it'd be risky. Depends of the maps etc of course
It'll be interesting to keep an eye on this style for sure ^_^. Metagame shifts are the most exciting thing around!!
I love this game.
yeah and these days there is so much stuff switching on all the T match ups, TvT openings, TvZ openings/mine drops/4th cc timings, TvP mine drop being the go to opening etc... Feels incredibly dynamic. then there is PvZ :D
Life (red) spawns in the bottom Bbyong (yellow) spawns in the top
2:00 Hatchery first vs CC first. Life gets a spawning pool and no gas, Bbyong gets a gas/barracks.
3:00 Queens/zerglings for Life. Bbyong getting a factory.
4:00 Life getting two more queens. Starport for Bbyong. Life poking with zerglings. Reactor goes on the factory as soon as it finishes.
5:00 Life taking a third base. Bbyong moving out with an SCV scout.
6:00 Four hellions move out for Bbyong. Bbyong getting a banshee. Life getting zergling speed. Spine crawler being made.
7:00 Life 57 vs Bbyong 49 Cloak banshee on the way for Bbyong. Two evolution chambers in production. Bbyong getting a quick armory and a third CC. Spore crawlers start for Life.
8:00 Life 66 vs Bbyong 66 The first cloak banshee goes into the natural. There are several queens in the main and natural. Life losing a few drones. Lots of hellions moving out. Two more factories for Bbyong.
9:00 Life 85 vs Bbyong 85 Hellions transform into hellbats and attack. Drones evacuate the third base a little late. The roach warren isn't done yet. Zerglngs kill one hellbat.
10:00 Life 78 vs Bbyong 93 Roaches and roach speed for Life. Life holds off the attack. Life taking a fourth. Bbyong sees the fourth with a banshee and forces a cancel.
Life (red) spawns in the bottom Bbyong (yellow) spawns in the top
2:00 Hatchery first vs CC first. Life gets a spawning pool and no gas, Bbyong gets a gas/barracks.
3:00 Queens/zerglings for Life. Bbyong getting a factory.
4:00 Life getting two more queens. Starport for Bbyong. Life poking with zerglings. Reactor goes on the factory as soon as it finishes.
5:00 Life taking a third base. Bbyong moving out with an SCV scout.
6:00 Four hellions move out for Bbyong. Bbyong getting a banshee. Life getting zergling speed. Spine crawler being made.
7:00 Life 57 vs Bbyong 49 Cloak banshee on the way for Bbyong. Two evolution chambers in production. Bbyong getting a quick armory and a third CC. Spore crawlers start for Life.
8:00 Life 66 vs Bbyong 66 The first cloak banshee goes into the natural. There are several queens in the main and natural. Life losing a few drones. Lots of hellions moving out. Two more factories for Bbyong.
9:00 Life 85 vs Bbyong 85 Hellions transform into hellbats and attack. Drones evacuate the third base a little late. The roach warren isn't done yet. Zerglngs kill one hellbat.
10:00 Life 78 vs Bbyong 93 Roaches and roach speed for Life. Life holds off the attack. Life taking a fourth. Bbyong sees the fourth with a banshee and forces a cancel.
12:00 Life 116 vs Bbyong 129 Banshee lurking around the bottom of the map now. Life re-taking his fourth base. Banshee goes into the main base. Overseer + queens finally catch up. Thors for Bbyong. Life getting an infestation pit.
13:00 Life 143 vs Bbyong 160 Bbyong pulling SCVs. Three thors, a bunch of hellbats and some banshees make their way to the bases of Life. Life engages immediately with roaches. Banshees and thors manage to clean Life's forces up. Life trying again with more roaches, focusing the thors this time. Two thors survive.
14:00 Life 130 vs Bbyong 159 Bbyong goes after Life's fourth and Life sacrifices it. The banshees are all still alive as there are only a few queens. Roaches focus down another thor but there are reinforcements. Hellbats are continuously cleaned up and replaced.
15:00 Life 120 vs Bbyong 153 Three of the banshees are cleaned up. There are five thors out on the field now. Life only has a few roaches left. Another thor is focus fired. Overlords being killed. Hellbats are reinforced just as Life pulls drones, causing 12 more workers to die. Life GG's! CJ Entus goes up 2-1!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (9)
64%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs Bbyong?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On March 03 2015 21:42 TheOne26 wrote: thor air priority can be annoying sometimes. need to shift click roaches now or they will attack overlords instead lol
They won't, Overlords can't attack them so Roaches have priority.
On March 03 2015 21:42 TheOne26 wrote: thor air priority can be annoying sometimes. need to shift click roaches now or they will attack overlords instead lol
They won't, Overlords can't attack them so Roaches have priority.
Yeah, it's the range that is the reason. Longer aa-range means they attack overlords before attacking roaches is possible.
On March 03 2015 21:42 TheOne26 wrote: thor air priority can be annoying sometimes. need to shift click roaches now or they will attack overlords instead lol
They won't, Overlords can't attack them so Roaches have priority.
Actually they did, because the roaches weren't in range. In fact, with micro Life would have died much earlier because of that.
On March 03 2015 21:41 Rhaeide wrote: Wow Bbyong, beating Life...
Like every time so far... ROFL
Yeah, Life doesn't beat Bbyong much TT
Also come on Valdes/Moonglade this was neither surprising nor upsetting >.>
I guess it was disappointing (for Moonglade)
Been disappointed with commentary in general today. The blatant mocking of flash (and kt in general) along with crediting life for flash's win rubbed me the wrong way.
On March 03 2015 21:41 Rhaeide wrote: Wow Bbyong, beating Life...
Like every time so far... ROFL
Yeah, Life doesn't beat Bbyong much TT
Also come on Valdes/Moonglade this was neither surprising nor upsetting >.>
I guess it was disappointing (for Moonglade)
Been disappointed with commentary in general today. The blatant mocking of flash (and kt in general) along with crediting life for flash's win rubbed me the wrong way.
It's not a far-fetched conclusion to assume that Life - best ZvT player in the world - may have helped Flash out tbh
On March 03 2015 21:42 TheOne26 wrote: thor air priority can be annoying sometimes. need to shift click roaches now or they will attack overlords instead lol
They won't, Overlords can't attack them so Roaches have priority.
Actually they did, because the roaches weren't in range. In fact, with micro Life would have died much earlier because of that.
Ah, like that. Well, that has near nothing to do with the air priority change.
On March 03 2015 21:41 Rhaeide wrote: Wow Bbyong, beating Life...
Like every time so far... ROFL
Yeah, Life doesn't beat Bbyong much TT
Also come on Valdes/Moonglade this was neither surprising nor upsetting >.>
I guess it was disappointing (for Moonglade)
Been disappointed with commentary in general today. The blatant mocking of flash (and kt in general) along with crediting life for flash's win rubbed me the wrong way.
It's not a far-fetched conclusion to assume that Life - best ZvT player in the world - may have helped Life out tbh
Its obvious you get help from your teammates. However, when life won iem i'd didn't hear anyone saying life should tell bomber "thank you sensei".
Stats spawns in the top right Sora spawns in the bottom right
2:00 12 gate for Stats, 13 gate for Sora. Both players getting two assimilators. Cybernetics core for both players, Stats faster.
3:00 Stalker for Stats. Sora also getting a stalker but banking a lot more gas. Both players are scouting each other presently.
4:00 Stargate for Stats. Mothership core and warp gate for Sora. Sora also getting a stargate. Oracle and twilight council for Stats.
5:00 Two more gateways for Sora. Stats catches a probe but it gets all the way to the main ramp. Oracle being made for Sora. Two more gateways for Stat. Stats' oracle is halfway across the map already.
Stats spawns in the top right Sora spawns in the bottom right
2:00 12 gate for Stats, 13 gate for Sora. Both players getting two assimilators. Cybernetics core for both players, Stats faster.
3:00 Stalker for Stats. Sora also getting a stalker but banking a lot more gas. Both players are scouting each other presently.
4:00 Stargate for Stats. Mothership core and warp gate for Sora. Sora also getting a stargate. Oracle and twilight council for Stats.
5:00 Two more gateways for Sora. Stats catches a probe but it gets all the way to the main ramp. Oracle being made for Sora. Two more gateways for Stat. Stats' oracle is halfway across the map already.
6:00 Stats' oracle dies to photon overcharge and stalkers. Sora's oracle is suicided, and both lose three probes. Stats gets out a phoenix while Sora goes for another oracle. Twilight council for Sora, blink for Stats.
7:00 Stats 39 vs Sora 34 Sora expands, but Stats warps in a bunch of stalkers on the offense and Sora cancels. Oracle flies into the main base where Stats has a phoenix. Stats attacking with more stalkers that also have blink. Photon overcharge isn't ready yet. Stats loses a few probes but kills all of Sora's. Sora GG's! Stats takes the series back to 2-2!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★ - Good game (2)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs Sora?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On March 03 2015 21:53 The_Red_Viper wrote: I think it is safe to say that Flash now is the best player in the world, considering Life lost to Bbyong...
Maybe when Flash wins at least 2 more games, ya know.
On March 03 2015 21:53 The_Red_Viper wrote: I think it is safe to say that Flash now is the best player in the world, considering Life lost to Bbyong...
On March 03 2015 22:00 OtherWorld wrote: So many people with no confidence in Zest )':
I think Zest can take it, but i have to agree that Stats would probably be the better option atm. I am a fan, but i also try to be realistic :D But yeah whatever, Zest won't make the same mistakes twice and thus win this time!
On March 03 2015 22:05 Rhaeide wrote: I'm happy that Stats is not playing the ace, he's so solid and smart, but Zest is Zest guys, I fear him a lot as a herO fan.
Zest spawns in the top right herO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 No proxies. Gate + 2 gas for both players. Both players getting a cybernetics core.
3:00 Zest getting a sentry, herO a stalker. Mothership core for both players. Zest's next unit is a stalker. Stargate for herO.
4:00 Twilight council for Zest. Zest finds a hidden probe and chases it off. Second sentry for Zest.
5:00 herO's scouting probe is killed and Zest's nexus is placed down. Zest getting a dark shrine. Oracle for herO. Both players getting two more gateways.
There sometimes is the sound of the mothership shooting without the animation and without damage. Why is that? Does the same happen with Marauders/Stalkers and not Marines?
Zest spawns in the top right herO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 No proxies. Gate + 2 gas for both players. Both players getting a cybernetics core.
3:00 Zest getting a sentry, herO a stalker. Mothership core for both players. Zest's next unit is a stalker. Stargate for herO.
4:00 Twilight council for Zest. Zest finds a hidden probe and chases it off. Second sentry for Zest.
5:00 herO's scouting probe is killed and Zest's nexus is placed down. Zest getting a dark shrine. Oracle for herO. Both players getting two more gateways.
6:00 herO's oracle kills both sentries and forces a photon overcharge before falling. herO destroys Zest's expansion while expanding himself.Robotics facility for herO. Zest moving out with a few stalkers.
8:00 Zest 47 vs herO 50 Zest denies herO's expansion. herO has fo FF his own ramp. Another oracle going towards Zest's base. Zest does have blink now. Zest snipes the pylon powering the robotics facility after an immortal finishes. Zest proxies a stargate.
10:00 Zest 56 vs herO 67 herO sneaks three zealots out of his main base. Zest getting an oracle. Warp prism for herO, who got a second immortal.
Zest spawns in the top right herO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 No proxies. Gate + 2 gas for both players. Both players getting a cybernetics core.
3:00 Zest getting a sentry, herO a stalker. Mothership core for both players. Zest's next unit is a stalker. Stargate for herO.
4:00 Twilight council for Zest. Zest finds a hidden probe and chases it off. Second sentry for Zest.
5:00 herO's scouting probe is killed and Zest's nexus is placed down. Zest getting a dark shrine. Oracle for herO. Both players getting two more gateways.
6:00 herO's oracle kills both sentries and forces a photon overcharge before falling. herO destroys Zest's expansion while expanding himself.Robotics facility for herO. Zest moving out with a few stalkers.
8:00 Zest 47 vs herO 50 Zest denies herO's expansion. herO has fo FF his own ramp. Another oracle going towards Zest's base. Zest does have blink now. Zest snipes the pylon powering the robotics facility after an immortal finishes. Zest proxies a stargate.
10:00 Zest 56 vs herO 67 herO sneaks three zealots out of his main base. Zest getting an oracle. Warp prism for herO, who got a second immortal.
11:00 Zest 61 vs herO 77 Warp prism finally finishes and Zest backs off. Zest getting a robotics facility and an expansion. herO also expanding.
12:00 Zest 68 vs herO 82 Robotics facility for Zest. Doesn't Zest have a dark shrine? Zest killing 8 probes in herO's main. Zest uses photon overcharge on his natural nexus to hold it. herO tries again while dropping zealots in the main base. Zest committed an immortal to holding the zealot drop and can't hold either front. Zest loses his main nexus and GG's! CJ Entus wins 3-2!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★ - Good game (7)
58%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
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12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
The stargate was a mistake. If he had added the robo instead of the stargate with his expansion or a little before the immortal count would have been even and the fight in the front could have been taken without overcharge support so he could focus a little defence on the back/main as well.
On March 03 2015 22:20 NarutO wrote: The stargate was a mistake. If he had added the robo instead of the stargate with his expansion or a little before the immortal count would have been even and the fight in the front could have been taken without overcharge support so he could focus a little defence on the back/main as well.
Really didnt understand the stargate.
I guess he saw herO already had 2 immortals and thought he had to find another way to get back in the game than simply going for the same tech 3 mins later... I m not an expert though...
On March 03 2015 22:23 The_Red_Viper wrote: well sad day sad day
Your signature makes me sad
He lost his sig in a glorious sigbet that proves either how foolish or how brave and ballsy he is.
JD could have won against bomber that day. He was soooo close...^^
They always are.
ahaha, you will see it, JD will win blizzcon this year :D
yeah..... not happening, cuz Rain
How do you want Rain to even qualify if he can't make the playoffs of one KR league
well, at least Rain has MUCH MORE of a shot then Jaedong right??? At least he got in the GSL, sOs, Zest ans soO didn't even qualify for it, lol
It's true that Jaedong's level of play seem kinda worrying. The last time we saw him play he lost to puCK in a showmatch.
Yeah, and on top of that he, JD hasn't played in ANY tournaments (Gfinity which doesn't award WCS points), so yeah, lol, JD's chances are slimmer than they could be
On March 03 2015 22:54 sharkie wrote: wow Zest totally lost his ability to PvP Was he really only a patchtoss? :o
No he was not. And a pvp loss is hardly proof... He made some weird decisions in game 1 today (why would he move the observer, he had phoenixes in the enemy base..) and lost to a thing called oracle. I mean i am worried a bit too, but shit happens... Let's just wait and see if he will qualify for gsl/ssl next season, that's imo the true indicator if he is in a big slump. I get that people expect more of him, but atm he simply isn't a top 3 toss and herO is.
Will be interesting to see who will play next week, i think TY didn't play today cause of his Code S match... But then again, Stats is on fire, Flash is Flash, Life is probably the best player in the world atm and the coaching team seems to think highly of Zest as well (ace). Not sure if there is really place for TY... (i hope so^^)
It was already somewhat of a curse when flash wins the other lose and the other way around.
I am glad seeing Flash is doing fine again (at least one game, but this one game he didn't look completely off), I hope the teamchange of Life will help him (Life) and therefore the otheers.
Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
9.8/10 Best New Swag_bro Post
I am curious about the former best and your rating for that.
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
9.8/10 Best New Swag_bro Post
I'd even rate it 9.9/10 because of this epic quote : "If you are at the top, the only place you can go is down."
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
9.8/10 Best New Swag_bro Post
I am curious about the former best and your rating for that.
I'd have to so some research, but I can for sure say this one for some reason made me laugh harder than any other
On March 04 2015 01:14 GumBa wrote: lol swag_bro is back after his own slump
I think after this post we can for sure say swag_bro is the best poster in the world, possibly of all time. there is no one who can compare to his level of post right now and it's hard to see him ever slowing down
On March 04 2015 01:14 GumBa wrote: lol swag_bro is back after his own slump
I think after this post we can for sure say swag_bro is the best poster in the world, possibly of all time. there is no one who can compare to his level of post right now and it's hard to see him ever slowing down
He should be careful, when you're at the top you can only go down.
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
I think swag_bro is in a slump as well tbh. I remember the glory days of his trolling like it was yesterday. One time after another he would produce great content, mix up some facts with humorous baits for the naive teamliquid user. The quality would vary from good to very good to best of the best, sometimes even a very best of the very best, always creating the satires with a smiling eye. But then it happened, swag_bro got banned for his most controversial piece of yet. He surely came back and started writing his usual player critiques after every big sc2 match. Most of the people didn't even realize there was something off, but the more trained eye instantly saw his work missed something these days. Love for his own work? Now there are conspiracy theories out there which conclude he might deliberately only produce mediocre content to make some fast cash, some money he otherwise would need to work hard for. I am not convinced, but i can say that there was better work in the past and i am sure he can totally get back to his usual level!
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
I think swag_bro is in a slump as well tbh. I remember the glory days of his trolling like it was yesterday. One time after another he would produce great quality content, mix up some facts with humorous baits for the naive teamliquid user. The quality would vary from good to very good to best of the best, sometimes even a very best of the very best, always creating the satires with a smiling eye. But then it happened, swag_bro got banned for his most controversial piece of yet. He surely came back and started writing his usual player critiques after every big sc2 match. Most of the people didn't even realize there was something off, but the more trained eye instantly saw his work misses something these days. Love for his own work? Now there are conspiracy theories out there which conclude he might deliberately only produce mediocre content to make some fast cash, some money he otherwise would need to work hard for. I am not convinced, but i can say that there was better work in the past.
On March 04 2015 01:05 swag_bro wrote: Hmm, looks like Zest is still in his slump. I am afraid for his future. Is he a Seed/Dear/Classic? I was hoping not since he won a tournament after his GSL win. But I guess I was wrong. Zest is in a slump unlike the SC2 scene has ever seen in our lives. Zest is heading towards no where good. I guess if you are at the top, the only place you can go is down.
Flash, on the other hand, is on an upswing. I would not be surprised if he qualified for NSL and GSL next season as well as go to more foreign tournaments and win all of them. He is absolutely on fire right now. The way he beat Byul was better than Innovation during his unstoppable TvZ moments (sans vs. Soulkey) and Taeja during his 2012 domination. He is truly the best Terran in the world right now, bar none. If you did not see Flash's game, go see it now. It is proof that starting from today, he will not lose a single game anymore. I truly think that Flash has found his SC2 calling and cannot be stopped by anyone from yesterday on. From his play today, I can't see one Zerg in the world (maybe Life) that can beat Flash at all. He is at the top right now and I hope he will not fall down like Zest has.
I think swag_bro is in a slump as well tbh. I remember the glory days of his trolling like it was yesterday. One time after another he would produce great quality content, mix up some facts with humorous baits for the naive teamliquid user. The quality would vary from good to very good to best of the best, sometimes even a very best of the very best, always creating the satires with a smiling eye. But then it happened, swag_bro got banned for his most controversial piece of yet. He surely came back and started writing his usual player critiques after every big sc2 match. Most of the people didn't even realize there was something off, but the more trained eye instantly saw his work misses something these days. Love for his own work? Now there are conspiracy theories out there which conclude he might deliberately only produce mediocre content to make some fast cash, some money he otherwise would need to work hard for. I am not convinced, but i can say that there was better work in the past.
I'm not worried. Zest still has the potential to be #1. Ty and stats are solid. Flash played well. And life is still great. Just about keeping the team in shape. Wouldn't be surprised if KT started 3-0ing teams again.
It's so sad to see Life going through this massive slump lately. He used to be one of the best or even THE best but now it just seems like he isn't even trying.
On March 04 2015 05:49 hborrgg wrote: It's so sad to see Life going through this massive slump lately. He used to be one of the best or even THE best but now it just seems like he isn't even trying.
On March 04 2015 05:49 hborrgg wrote: It's so sad to see Life going through this massive slump lately. He used to be one of the best or even THE best but now it just seems like he isn't even trying.
I think he may win NSSL, but it doesn't look like he'll win GSL or IEM, so he'll miss his chance to be the best SC2 player of all time. So close, though.
On March 04 2015 05:49 hborrgg wrote: It's so sad to see Life going through this massive slump lately. He used to be one of the best or even THE best but now it just seems like he isn't even trying.
haha....Life is in a slump alread? Winning a couple foreign tournaments and everyone thinks he's KT's ace. He's never that great to begin with, at least in proleague where skill is needed.
On March 04 2015 05:49 hborrgg wrote: It's so sad to see Life going through this massive slump lately. He used to be one of the best or even THE best but now it just seems like he isn't even trying.
haha....Life is in a slump alread? Winning a couple foreign tournaments and everyone thinks he's KT's ace. He's never that great to begin with, at least in proleague where skill is needed.
On March 04 2015 05:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote: This is the second time Zest lost two PvP's in a match to a really good protoss, nothing to be surprised about here.
Which is why he shouldn't have been fielded as the ace when Stats is in better shape <.<
Anyhow, Flash is finally embracing the way of the widow mine. I swear he made more mines in this game than in any of his previous TvZ games combined.
On March 04 2015 08:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: You again Did you anti Zest and Flash this time?
Proleague casters Wolf, Moonglade and Brendan (does he actually have a nickname? o.O) probably regret putting Flash on anti already. Such sweet justice since they spent so much time of the broadcast talking shit about his performances
On March 04 2015 08:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: You again Did you anti Zest and Flash this time?
No, I didn't do FPL; not a fan of the scoring system. I understand why they chose it, it's definitely one of and arguably the best possible option for such a league, but still, I'm not a fan since you just get points for showing up/being played.
I prefer to make simple predictions based off of analysis, without an arbitrary score system getting in the way. I think FPL is a a great idea, and an amazing creation, but it's not for me.
On March 04 2015 08:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: You again Did you anti Zest and Flash this time?
Proleague casters Wolf, Moonglade and Brendan (does he actually have a nickname? o.O) probably regret putting Flash on anti already. Such sweet justice since they spent so much time of the broadcast talking shit about his performances
I completely disagree, I don't think the casters' talk shit' about Flash at all, they simply recount what happened in Round 1. I can see how that can be rage-inducing if you are a huge Flash fanboy, of course, but if anything, I think that casters as a whole - Wolf, Moonglade, and Brendan included - are actually too nice to Flash, compared to how they talk about certain other players. And Flash has certainly earned negative comments about his recent play, did you watch his games?
FPL is another story; putting Flash on anti will probably never be a good idea because KT will most likely never bench him despite how bad he is, just because he's Flash.
On March 04 2015 08:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: You again Did you anti Zest and Flash this time?
Proleague casters Wolf, Moonglade and Brendan (does he actually have a nickname? o.O) probably regret putting Flash on anti already. Such sweet justice since they spent so much time of the broadcast talking shit about his performances
I completely disagree, I don't think the casters' talk shit' about Flash at all, they simply recount what happened in Round 1. I can see how that can be rage-inducing if you are a huge Flash fanboy, of course, but if anything, I think that casters as a whole - Wolf, Moonglade, and Brendan included - are actually too nice to Flash, compared to how they talk about certain other players. And Flash has certainly earned negative comments about his recent play, did you watch his games?
FPL is another story; putting Flash on anti will probably never be a good idea because KT will most likely never bench him despite how bad he is, just because he's Flash.
Or maybe he just had a bad round, and is actually fielded because he wins in-house?
Remember, Bisu, etc. were benched pretty often despite their star power; in proleague, you earn your starting spot by being one of the 4 best players on the team.
On March 04 2015 08:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: You again Did you anti Zest and Flash this time?
Proleague casters Wolf, Moonglade and Brendan (does he actually have a nickname? o.O) probably regret putting Flash on anti already. Such sweet justice since they spent so much time of the broadcast talking shit about his performances
I completely disagree, I don't think the casters' talk shit' about Flash at all, they simply recount what happened in Round 1. I can see how that can be rage-inducing if you are a huge Flash fanboy, of course, but if anything, I think that casters as a whole - Wolf, Moonglade, and Brendan included - are actually too nice to Flash, compared to how they talk about certain other players. And Flash has certainly earned negative comments about his recent play, did you watch his games?
FPL is another story; putting Flash on anti will probably never be a good idea because KT will most likely never bench him despite how bad he is, just because he's Flash.
nvm i just read the last 2 pages and i am not gonna discuss with someone calling hero "10 times the player that Zest is"
Ahh Zest, no lol. I guess Life is still the new ghost on the team, so they can't trust him with acey tasks yet. KT should stabilize within the next few weeks.
On March 04 2015 08:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: You again Did you anti Zest and Flash this time?
Proleague casters Wolf, Moonglade and Brendan (does he actually have a nickname? o.O) probably regret putting Flash on anti already. Such sweet justice since they spent so much time of the broadcast talking shit about his performances
I completely disagree, I don't think the casters' talk shit' about Flash at all, they simply recount what happened in Round 1. I can see how that can be rage-inducing if you are a huge Flash fanboy, of course, but if anything, I think that casters as a whole - Wolf, Moonglade, and Brendan included - are actually too nice to Flash, compared to how they talk about certain other players. And Flash has certainly earned negative comments about his recent play, did you watch his games?
FPL is another story; putting Flash on anti will probably never be a good idea because KT will most likely never bench him despite how bad he is, just because he's Flash.
You're starting to make me laugh ; this is a sign that you are approaching the swag_bro zone of being a funny troll that gets recognition. Keep on. As for FlaSh, I guess that the idea that teams could have in-house rankings that they use to decide who to field and who to bench is foreign to you.
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