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[SPL] KT vs Prime Round 1 2015 - Page 41

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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 12:03:29
January 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#801
So i think my hatred for Prime was actually just hatred for MKP. Uh.

On January 20 2015 21:00 BlackCompany wrote:
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On January 20 2015 20:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Man Zest got so unlucky again only to work himself back in by being amazing and then he throws like that... UGH


Why unlucky? I think his builds were just to safe. I dont like going 3 gate robo AGAIN after he saw what Creator did in the first game


The game 1 build wasn't that safe by him, in the sense that he committed to blink harassment/pressure without knowing his opponent's tech path; Creator was actually being safer if you look at it that way. Zest's build works great vs like stargate expand, but in blink mirrors it's super super risky to play it that way.

In game 2 yeah he played overly safe, it's so hard to do the same (safe) build in pvp two games in a row and make it work. He still could have come won if he hadn't messed up his counter attack.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#802
expect swag_bro to hit at any moment
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
January 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#803
"I never thought about attacking." - Creator (every day, every year)
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
January 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#804
On January 20 2015 21:01 SmoKim wrote:
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On January 20 2015 20:59 BlackCompany wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:58 Musicus wrote:
damn, Zest is getting the speech, don't like the KT coach...


Why? Played 2 bad games, its the coaches job to tell him he sucked (in a positive way of course, but you know what i mean)


but i didn't look positive, at all. It looked more like a "you are gonna whiped when we come home to the teamhouse!" speech


Ah okay, was looking at the LR and didnt see it. Well we dont know what they said but he doesnt help Zest by beating him down (since Creator already did that... twice T_T)

On January 20 2015 21:01 Musicus wrote:
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On January 20 2015 20:59 BlackCompany wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:58 Musicus wrote:
damn, Zest is getting the speech, don't like the KT coach...


Why? Played 2 bad games, its the coaches job to tell him he sucked (in a positive way of course, but you know what i mean)


Well there is enough time for that when they are back home. Dunno, I also dislike his decisions regarding the lineup.


I agree with the Lineup. It has been pretty bad for the past weeks but till now he was lucky enough that Zest pulled through in the ACE. Cant count on that every time..
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#805
haha excellent Prime
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8739 Posts
January 20 2015 12:03 GMT
#806
On January 20 2015 21:03 Greenei wrote:
"I never thought about attacking." - Creator (every day, every year)


"first we make expand, then we defense it"

just learned from the best.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#807
On January 20 2015 21:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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On January 20 2015 21:00 TheDwf wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:59 Undead1993 wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:59 TheDwf wrote:
Just fire the KT coach

wat? who would you send?

A Terran

they probably wouldn't win either...

TvP on Catallena against Creator? Better odds at least
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#808
but there is something wrong with KT seeing as how they can't get more than one person to function well at the same time.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#809
On January 20 2015 20:59 Undead1993 wrote:
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On January 20 2015 20:59 TheDwf wrote:
Just fire the KT coach

wat? who would you send?

it's not about who to send out. it's about turning championship winners and great players under father hoejja in to a bunch of nobodies with identity crisis.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#810
On January 20 2015 21:03 Greenei wrote:
"I never thought about attacking." - Creator (every day, every year)


Creator actually refine lots of 3base timing attacks in ~2012, like PvT Double forge 3/3, +3 colossus/immortal timings in PvP, and 3base blink/+2/DT in PvZ. He just doesn't bullshit much.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#811
On January 20 2015 21:03 Teoita wrote:
So i think my hatred for Prime was actually just hatred for MKP. Uh.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:00 BlackCompany wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Man Zest got so unlucky again only to work himself back in by being amazing and then he throws like that... UGH


Why unlucky? I think his builds were just to safe. I dont like going 3 gate robo AGAIN after he saw what Creator did in the first game


The game 1 build wasn't that safe by him, in the sense that he committed to blink harassment/pressure without knowing his opponent's tech path; Creator was actually being safer if you look at it that way. Zest's build works great vs like stargate expand, but in blink mirrors it's super super risky to play it that way.

In game 2 yeah he played overly safe, it's so hard to do the same (safe) build in pvp two games in a row and make it work. He still could have come won if he hadn't messed up his counter attack.


Thanks for clearing that up! To me it seemed super safe even in game 1, but i am no expert^^ I really really disliked doing it again, jsut as you said
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#812
On January 20 2015 21:00 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 20:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Man Zest got so unlucky again only to work himself back in by being amazing and then he throws like that... UGH


Why unlucky? I think his builds were just to safe. I dont like going 3 gate robo AGAIN after he saw what Creator did in the first game


Because he barely didnt scout Creator's tech again and fell massively behind early. His nexus started when Creator's was done and Zest had no way to pressure. Really he should have died to Creator's first moveout but his stalkers denied the scout on his third so Creator backed off. He did everything right until that final engagement
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
January 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#813
So Creator wasn't even meant to play the Ace? he just stepped up cause Yoda was so crushed?

Creator is baller
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 20 2015 12:05 GMT
#814
Creator is so happy
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 20 2015 12:05 GMT
#815
On January 20 2015 21:03 Makro wrote:
expect swag_bro to hit at any moment

NO swag_bro always posts way after it's finished, it'll come in a few hours. creator is so the best player in the world right now and zest is on a slump
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 20 2015 12:05 GMT
#816
On January 20 2015 21:03 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:01 SmoKim wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:59 BlackCompany wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:58 Musicus wrote:
damn, Zest is getting the speech, don't like the KT coach...


Why? Played 2 bad games, its the coaches job to tell him he sucked (in a positive way of course, but you know what i mean)


but i didn't look positive, at all. It looked more like a "you are gonna whiped when we come home to the teamhouse!" speech


Ah okay, was looking at the LR and didnt see it. Well we dont know what they said but he doesnt help Zest by beating him down (since Creator already did that... twice T_T)

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:01 Musicus wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:59 BlackCompany wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:58 Musicus wrote:
damn, Zest is getting the speech, don't like the KT coach...


Why? Played 2 bad games, its the coaches job to tell him he sucked (in a positive way of course, but you know what i mean)


Well there is enough time for that when they are back home. Dunno, I also dislike his decisions regarding the lineup.


I agree with the Lineup. It has been pretty bad for the past weeks but till now he was lucky enough that Zest pulled through in the ACE. Cant count on that every time..


Obviously the coach needed to say "yo Zest, plox do better so we don't fucking loose to Prime" i get that, totally. But i don't think what Zest need right after loosing twice to Creator and loosing the Ace match, is a angry coach telling him how terrible he played. I'm pretty sure he knows (and feels) that right now :D.
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
January 20 2015 12:05 GMT
#817
Where is usopama?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 20 2015 12:06 GMT
#818
On January 20 2015 21:04 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 20 2015 21:00 TheDwf wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:59 Undead1993 wrote:
On January 20 2015 20:59 TheDwf wrote:
Just fire the KT coach

wat? who would you send?

A Terran

they probably wouldn't win either...

TvP on Catallena against Creator? Better odds at least

i mean if TY lost then we'd be saying the coach is stupid for not trying zest again so no one wins i guess
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 20 2015 12:06 GMT
#819
On January 20 2015 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:03 Makro wrote:
expect swag_bro to hit at any moment

NO swag_bro always posts way after it's finished, it'll come in a few hours. creator is so the best player in the world right now and zest is on a slump

And he wont recover from that slump unless a miracle happens
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
January 20 2015 12:06 GMT
#820
Wow, good thing they didnt go with yoda. No way he beats zest.
In the rear with the gear!
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