EPTI'm only surprised that he got through qualifiers. After that he can get ro8 to stay in code s forever.
[Code S] Ro32 Group A Season 1 2015 - Page 50
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_TMT_
Vietnam114 Posts
I'm only surprised that he got through qualifiers. After that he can get ro8 to stay in code s forever. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 07 2015 23:46 Gwavajuice wrote: Seriously, this is a GSL season with all seed erased and everybody getting through qualifiers. he qualifies for Ro32 and then he goes out first of his group, he totally belongs to ro16 wether you're liking it or not. As someone said a long ago : Vae victis. So? These qualifier groups weren't balanced at all. I am sure you wouldn't say that the best 32 players advanced, right? It will take a few seasons till we have a stable ro32 again, that's only natural. he totally belongs to ro16 Well i disagree, MC is not a top 16 player, he isn't even a top 32 player. I obviously could be wrong (and he really is in top form RIGHT NOW when it matters), but his stats over the last few months indicate that i am right tbh. Maybe he does really well this gsl and next gsl/ssl, then i will change my opinion, the results so far don't prove anything though imo. (as i said before, the gsl group system helped him a lot, let him play vs fantasy/rogue first and we probably see a different outcome, same for round robin) | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On January 07 2015 23:59 _TMT_ wrote: Idk. MC is a real beast at prepared matches. I'm only surprised that he got through qualifiers. After that he can get ro8 to stay in code s forever. His style is coming back around into the meta too I think. Granted he didn't play against top talent today, but he's still as good as ever at ridiculously piercing all ins. Zerg is pretty weak against toss atm and Terran is pretty damn strong in the mid game against toss so he just tries to end it fast which really isn't a bad play. I mean if you aren't completely prepared for that Immortal all in you are just dead. | ||
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esdf
Croatia736 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
The hell? Okay, even granting that most of MC's big accomplishments are in the past way before Fantasy switched. Even post-Kespa Fantasy hasn't done a whole lot to distinguish himself. He was basically in the same boat as MC, a guy who could only occasionally show you glimpses of greatness. Only, MC has a bit more of an excuse what with traveling abroad for so long and not having a team to practice with. There may have also been a little burnout due to playing sc2 for so long. Fantasy was on SKT for most of his sc2 career and still usually looked mediocre at best despite being the one with something to prove in this new environment. Which tbh, was even surprising to me as I predicted him to be the best Kespa player to switch over. I don't even think it would be too outlandish to say Fantasy is probably in the best form of his sc2 career currently and it's still not enough to beat MC. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Imo, he should be considered a legend like Mvp is. + MC is actually still relevant after all these years | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On January 08 2015 00:03 The_Red_Viper wrote: So? These qualifier groups weren't balanced at all. I am sure you wouldn't say that the best 32 players advanced, right? It will take a few seasons till we have a stable ro32 again, that's only natural. Well i disagree, MC is not a top 16 player, he isn't even a top 32 player. I obviously could be wrong (and he really is in top form RIGHT NOW when it matters), but his stats over the last few months indicate that i am right tbh. Maybe he does really well this gsl and next gsl/ssl, then i will change my opinion, the results so far don't prove anything though imo. (as i said before, the gsl group system helped him a lot, let him play vs fantasy/rogue first and we probably see a different outcome, same for round robin) You are just wrong IMO. I know this group was pretty weak but MC is so much better at being able to prepare for a player versus tournament style which is really what he has been focusing on. It was surprising he got through qualies to me but now that he has time to prepare a specific all in or what have you for his next match really does increase his deadliness. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 08 2015 00:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: The hell? Okay, even granting that most of MC's big accomplishments are in the past way before Fantasy switched. Even post-Kespa Fantasy hasn't done a whole lot to distinguish himself. He was basically in the same boat as MC, a guy who could only occasionally show you glimpses of greatness. Only, MC has a bit more of an excuse what with traveling abroad for so long and not having a team to practice with. There may have also been a little burnout due to playing sc2 for so long. Fantasy was on SKT for most of his sc2 career and still usually looked mediocre at best despite being the one with something to prove in this new environment. Which tbh, was even surprising to me as I predicted him to be the best Kespa player to switch over. I don't even think it would be too outlandish to say Fantasy is probably in the best form of his sc2 career currently and it's still not enough to beat MC. I said fantasy is no "old legend" for sc2 fans. I agree that fantasy is in the best form of his sc2 career, he just isn't that strong vs toss... It obviously doesn't really matter what i think about mc, he legitimately won today, i very much doubt that this will be enough though against "better" players (note: i think fantasy IS better than mc, just not today against mc's style) | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
FanTaSy succeeding in SC2 will always just be a fantasy. + Show Spoiler + Damn it, stop breaking my heart... | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 07 2015 14:30 OtherWorld wrote: MC and Rogue imo Hehe | ||
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
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cpower
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sibs
635 Posts
On January 07 2015 23:59 _TMT_ wrote: Idk. MC is a real beast at prepared matches. I'm only surprised that he got through qualifiers. After that he can get ro8 to stay in code s forever. I don't think he's a beast at prepared matches, MC just played the way he usually plays he builds a lot of stalkers  , other players were nervous and playing considerably worst than they usually do, that Spire penguin built when he saw an immortal all in coming was so puzzling.PS: I only saw the first 2 series | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On January 08 2015 00:27 swag_bro wrote: MC making it out is the least surprising thing of the year. But Fantasy losing is a huge upset. I can't believe he threw those games. Totally fantasy's loss. I' like to argue, that ForGG qualifying for WCS EU is the least surprising thing of the year. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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ClueClueClue
Sweden1203 Posts
On January 08 2015 00:15 The_Red_Viper wrote: I said fantasy is no "old legend" for sc2 fans. I agree that fantasy is in the best form of his sc2 career, he just isn't that strong vs toss... It obviously doesn't really matter what i think about mc, he legitimately won today, i very much doubt that this will be enough though against "better" players (note: i think fantasy IS better than mc, just not today against mc's style) What's your indication of him being better than MC...? It isn't results, that's fo sho. | ||
nimdil
Poland3775 Posts
On January 08 2015 00:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: The hell? Okay, even granting that most of MC's big accomplishments are in the past way before Fantasy switched. Even post-Kespa Fantasy hasn't done a whole lot to distinguish himself. He was basically in the same boat as MC, a guy who could only occasionally show you glimpses of greatness. Only, MC has a bit more of an excuse what with traveling abroad for so long and not having a team to practice with. There may have also been a little burnout due to playing sc2 for so long. Fantasy was on SKT for most of his sc2 career and still usually looked mediocre at best despite being the one with something to prove in this new environment. Which tbh, was even surprising to me as I predicted him to be the best Kespa player to switch over. I don't even think it would be too outlandish to say Fantasy is probably in the best form of his sc2 career currently and it's still not enough to beat MC. I think he was best around 2nd round of previous season proleague. After apparently practiciing hard he went 3-2 in that round winning against Life, Sniper and RorO but loosing to herO (Ace match) and Creator. At the time that was very solid result. | ||
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