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ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1241
Am I stupid for putting Zest on my anti?
Go TAEJA
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1242
On December 22 2014 20:50 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 20:49 Zealously wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:48 rasnj wrote:
Lol at people overestimating bbyong and underestimating solar just because he had a few bad zvt matches. Bbyong is about to get beat bad.


Like he "got beat" all of last season when people insisted he sucked and only won because of Gangnam Terran?

I can't remember ever seeing Bbyong win on a map that wasn't Habitation Station

he once beat Classic on Outboxer with mech and then got stomped by 2 of his teammates
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1243
On December 22 2014 20:45 GumBa wrote:
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On December 22 2014 20:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:43 negativedge wrote:
you think samsung expected hero?


I think Solar is the safer choice, Dear probably doesn't wanna play against terran.

Solar's ZvP is quite amazing and he just practicing ZvT for his SSL match against Dream (and played well too).

DLO who looked better at their peak. Zest or Dear?


Really really hard to say.
Arguments to be made for Zest: the game was more figured when he dominated and he probably scratched the skill ceiling for a while, at least in PvP and PvZ. His strongest matchup was better than Dear's strongest. He also performed amazingly in several qualifiers (he won 2-3 IEM qualifiers I think) which generally are a very good indicator of overall skill. Dear never played any I believe.

Dear's glaring weakness was PvP, Zest's was (and is) PvT. I give Zest the upper hand here because PvT is very very tough.

I'd go with Zest, but only slightly.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1244
Since I have neither of these two in my FPL. I'm going to say I want Solar to win for Salt and lolz
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1245
On December 22 2014 20:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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On December 22 2014 20:49 Zealously wrote:
Two things you don't expect:

1) The Spanish Inquisition
2) Bbyong losing to Bravo to force an ace match

Bbyong's loss is much easier to expect than ForGG losing to Life 0-3.

Yeah, because Life has such a bad record vs. terran lately :/
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1246
On December 22 2014 20:51 ANLProbe wrote:
Am I stupid for putting Zest on my anti?

Nah, I did it too.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1247
On December 22 2014 20:48 Alchemik wrote:
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On December 22 2014 20:48 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:47 Alchemik wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:46 TheDwf wrote:
Bbyong has this

pretty big upset if he doesn't win

I wouldn't go that far

I would, judging by his recent games vs Dream and mech


Played well vs YoDa and GuMiho mech recently online
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
December 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#1248
lol please tune in

with irrelevant audio in the background
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#1249
On December 22 2014 20:50 boxerfred wrote:
I think we should not forget that a certain team won Proleague on the back of chief Bogus, Dear and Classic. Dear was to STX what Stats and TY are for KT.

Dont forget Trap!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#1250
On December 22 2014 20:49 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 20:48 Alchemik wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:48 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:47 Alchemik wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:46 TheDwf wrote:
Bbyong has this

pretty big upset if he doesn't win

I wouldn't go that far

I would, judging by his recent games vs Dream and mech

It's Foxtrot, Bbyong going mech is not certain. SSL Dream also showed better TvZ than Bbyong ever did with bio

maybe he did, but Solar played very bad those games, kept attacking into chokes from one side with his whole army, which isn't the smartest thing ever

I mean I like Solar, but don't see him winning that unless Bbyong botches pretty hard
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#1251
On December 22 2014 20:52 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 20:50 boxerfred wrote:
I think we should not forget that a certain team won Proleague on the back of chief Bogus, Dear and Classic. Dear was to STX what Stats and TY are for KT.

Dont forget Trap!

I think he wanted to highlight how Dear was worth 2 KT players
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#1252
Proreaguuu
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#1253
On December 22 2014 20:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 20:52 GumBa wrote:
On December 22 2014 20:50 boxerfred wrote:
I think we should not forget that a certain team won Proleague on the back of chief Bogus, Dear and Classic. Dear was to STX what Stats and TY are for KT.

Dont forget Trap!

I think he wanted to highlight how Dear was worth 2 KT players

Always knew I had a reason for liking Boxerfred
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#1254
On December 22 2014 20:51 ANLProbe wrote:
Am I stupid for putting Zest on my anti?


For this week no. I think Maru is going to break him in half.

Still not ballsy enough to put him on anti over Taeja/Seed/Stork though
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#1255
lichter when's the fpl button coming
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
December 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#1256
Bbyong pls
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
RiskyChris
Profile Joined April 2012
125 Posts
December 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#1257
On December 22 2014 20:51 ANLProbe wrote:
Am I stupid for putting Zest on my anti?


I've had Zest on my FPL team I think every season in SC2 so far. He's sometimes a very strong points-earner, sometimes lackluster. I went captain this season off the back that he's got no GSL/SSL to worry about.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#1258
On December 22 2014 20:51 ANLProbe wrote:
Am I stupid for putting Zest on my anti?

Yes
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
December 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#1259
Bbyongjwa will redeem.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#1260
On December 22 2014 20:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
lichter when's the fpl button coming

When FPL is updated after today's matches, the button will appear.
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