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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#2821
On December 08 2014 13:35 ucDarchon wrote:
Wait, why the fuck are neither Rotterdam nor ToD casting a PvP final? What the fuck?

this is complete speculation on my part but i would assume they set the rotation for the casts ahead of time to be fair to the casters?
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#2822
On December 08 2014 13:34 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 13:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 08 2014 13:30 Rollora wrote:
On December 08 2014 13:20 brickrd wrote:
i don't understand why people who don't play protoss hate watching pvp so much

you literally get to watch protoss get protossed in every single game

(this is also why i cannon rush in unranked pvp)


At least that is in my case, and ofc not everyones opinion. But I am not alone, as I have seen viewer counts going down from 36K to 25K.


don't attribute a drop in viewership to simply a matchup. it's late and people are going to bed.

also not everyone leaves the stream on during breaks/analysis. some people close windows or open another stream or do something else for a while

but thanks for the writeup about pvp, it's not that i literally "don't understand" why people find something boring, just that i find it fun to watch anyway because it's silly and volatile, sort of like watching bronze league heroes

I like watching micro of few units, it can be quite exciting. Blink wars is just mesmerizing since blink is like, one of the most fun things to do in the game.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 04:38:07
December 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#2823
On December 08 2014 13:36 Neazbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 13:35 ucDarchon wrote:
Wait, why the fuck are neither Rotterdam nor ToD casting a PvP final? What the fuck?


+1. What the fuck is this shit?

whatever the final is they always put the most popular caster for the finals

it's either apollo/artosis/day9
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 04:37:10
December 08 2014 04:37 GMT
#2824
On December 08 2014 13:35 ucDarchon wrote:
Wait, why the fuck are neither Rotterdam nor ToD casting a PvP final? What the fuck?


This makes no sense.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
December 08 2014 04:37 GMT
#2825
no rotterdam and tod
shame
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 08 2014 04:38 GMT
#2826
https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/541813048759951360?lang=fr
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 08 2014 04:38 GMT
#2827
Rain's won tournaments before...
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 08 2014 04:39 GMT
#2828
ahahaha they might not be the best PvP casters but Shaun and Sean are a hilarious duo.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 04:42:02
December 08 2014 04:39 GMT
#2829
On December 08 2014 13:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 13:30 Rollora wrote:
On December 08 2014 13:20 brickrd wrote:
i don't understand why people who don't play protoss hate watching pvp so much

you literally get to watch protoss get protossed in every single game

(this is also why i cannon rush in unranked pvp)


At least that is in my case, and ofc not everyones opinion. But I am not alone, as I have seen viewer counts going down from 36K to 25K.


don't attribute a drop in viewership to simply a matchup. it's late and people are going to bed.

its 530 AM here and ofc I am going to bed. I would watch another mixed matchup though, but I have seen literally 100s of always the same PvPs this year.
It has jost become the most boring matchup.
I mean PvP will never get to the point where TvT once was. And I dunno which tourney it was (Dreamhack, last week?) cause there were so many recently, but if you watch Skyhighs TvTs and see how much back and forth, constant battling on 3 fronts, gaining small advantages etc etc... i mean how thrilling it is to watch this matchup and then a boring PvP again... well thank you.
I am glad the protoss are happy now, cause well balance restored and such... but as a viewer I just think I don't have to witness another PvP if I don't have too. I am not even interested in which protoss wins this time, there have been so many protoss victories this year, it doesn't count to me really. It would count if toss is the inferior race atm, but it isn't. I am impressed by life and was extremely impressed by teaja, beating the 6 months of constant protoss wins at premier tournaments... but well
I hope you enjoy the finals, I didn't want to take the fun away from you, just explain my POV. Good night

Edit: btw it picked up to 30k again. So it is "ok". although finals tend to have about 10% more not 20% less viewers. Definately the matchup
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
December 08 2014 04:40 GMT
#2830
Day9 always emphasizes the vaguest most and most irrelevant elements in all games and PvP being a very intricate match up I'm looking forward to him making no good calls at all. Wish ToD and Rotti were there.
Neazbo
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom698 Posts
December 08 2014 04:40 GMT
#2831
Neither of these guys have any business casting this finals as far as i'm concerned. No fucking casting duo is topping tod/rotti for this and they're right fucking there in the back.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 08 2014 04:41 GMT
#2832
On December 08 2014 13:39 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 13:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 08 2014 13:30 Rollora wrote:
On December 08 2014 13:20 brickrd wrote:
i don't understand why people who don't play protoss hate watching pvp so much

you literally get to watch protoss get protossed in every single game

(this is also why i cannon rush in unranked pvp)


At least that is in my case, and ofc not everyones opinion. But I am not alone, as I have seen viewer counts going down from 36K to 25K.


don't attribute a drop in viewership to simply a matchup. it's late and people are going to bed.

its 530 AM here and ofc I am going to bed. I would watch another mixed matchup though, but I have seen literally 100s of always the same PvPs this year.
It has jost become the most boring matchup.
I mean PvP will never get to the point where TvT once was. And I dunno which tourney it was (Dreamhack, last week?) cause there were so many recently, but if you watch Skyhighs TvTs and see how much back and forth, constant battling on 3 fronts, gaining small advantages etc etc... i mean how thrilling it is to watch this matchup and then a boring PvP again... well thank you.
I am glad the protoss are happy now, cause well balance restored and such... but as a viewer I just think I don't have to witness another PvP if I don't have too. I am not even interested in which protoss wins this time, there have been so many protoss victories this year, it doesn't count to me really. It would count if toss is the inferior race atm, but it isn't. I am impressed by life and was extremely impressed by teaja, beating the 6 months of constant protoss wins at premier tournaments... but well
I hope you enjoy the finals, I didn't want to take the fun away from you, just explain my POV. Good night

Thanks for being so polite haha. good night!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 04:42:40
December 08 2014 04:42 GMT
#2833
On December 08 2014 13:40 Kiarip wrote:
Day9 always emphasizes the vaguest most and most irrelevant elements in all games and PvP being a very intricate match up I'm looking forward to him making no good calls at all. Wish ToD and Rotti were there.

well day9 is there because of his popularity, it's common knowledge he doesn't know the current meta that well. i agree that it's frustrating, and i don't really like him as a caster in general, but it's not his fault that he's popular. and specifically he's popular for the sort of generic, newbie-friendly analysis that's annoying and not helpful for some of us

On December 08 2014 13:40 Neazbo wrote:
Neither of these guys have any business casting this finals as far as i'm concerned. No fucking casting duo is topping tod/rotti for this and they're right fucking there in the back.

dude, it's just starcraft casting, calm down
TL+ Member
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 08 2014 04:42 GMT
#2834
fuck gg Rain.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 08 2014 04:46 GMT
#2835
time is on hero's side
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 08 2014 04:47 GMT
#2836
Poll: Rain vs herO Game 1?

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
20%

★★★ - Good game (7)
 
70%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
10%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Rain vs herO Game 1?

(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season

Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
December 08 2014 04:47 GMT
#2837
Stargate in-base is just such a good build.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 08 2014 04:47 GMT
#2838
dammit Rain, don't fall behind here
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
December 08 2014 04:48 GMT
#2839
Hahahahahhaha , a 30 minutes final (real time not blizzard time). This is the entertainment we deserve.
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
December 08 2014 04:50 GMT
#2840
Rain spent about 15 minutes before the final coming out on stage and signing stuff for everyone. I hope that doesn't come back to bite him
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
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