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[WCS AM] Playoffs - Day 2 Season 3 2014 - Page 42

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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#821
Captain America breaking that line.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25388 Posts
October 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#822
On October 13 2014 08:50 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:48 AWalker9 wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:46 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:44 AWalker9 wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Oh cool, let's indulge in a bunch of foreigner bashing!

I really have no issue with the WCS system if the players from Kr contribute to the development of that scene, but what we have seen is not really the case.

Is it any coincidence that for my money the European scene depth-wise is even more pronounced compared to NA? Scarlett and a few others aside it seems that EU has benefitted from a solid Korean contingent based in Europe and playing on the ladder.

For whatever reason you haven't seen the same in NA, is it really so unreasonably to actively intervene to try and create that kind of environment?


Dayshi earlier was complaining about WCS EU where the Koreans live in Europe

I hate most foreigners.


It's the ones that feel entitled all the time are the one's I generally dislike

That why I said most

I really don't think it is most, or at the very least I think most are OK with Koreans who live in and are active in the EU scene. One day when TL polls pros I may be proven entirely wrong.

Most complaints I recall were from Koreans who played from Korea until the offline portion so never really contributed in terms of raising the overall practice environment in EU. You can't just magically raise your game to a level you don't play at regularly for tournaments, but you can peak at a level consistent with your level of practice.

It's literally that I'm 'complaining' about, and considering my preferred tweaks to the tournament lineup mostly revolve around more tournaments IN Korea I don't believe I can be accused of bias against the region.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
October 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#823
Did Bomber lose all those medivacs? There's too much going on to have all my questions answered.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#824
The Macro Machine vs the Tactical Mastermind... quite a matchup
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#825
On October 13 2014 08:54 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:54 AWalker9 wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:53 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:
WCS EU wont even change. The people complaining will get just as rekt next year by the same people that did it this year. Heck the only reason I'm not moving our guys over to US or EU is because I'd rather they get better against good opponents on ladder.

This is why I like TB.


It's a similar reason of why I respect Inno he had the chance to keep getting easy money but he refused because he prioritises winning and getting better.

Inno sux

you're just a hater.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#826
On October 13 2014 08:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:53 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:
WCS EU wont even change. The people complaining will get just as rekt next year by the same people that did it this year. Heck the only reason I'm not moving our guys over to US or EU is because I'd rather they get better against good opponents on ladder.

This is why I like TB.


I like him more for all the hard work he does and money and time he invests, but whatever your reason...

Um obviously that as well but I like his honesty and commitment to korea so there. Got a problem?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Zyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands564 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#827
I love me some tvt when it's like this.
ret * Leenock * DiMAGA * Grubby * FBH
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#828
On October 13 2014 08:54 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:50 The_Templar wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:47 The_Templar wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:43 The_Templar wrote:
WCS America Premier RO4

(T)Polt vs (T)Bomber
0-0


Map: Foxtrot Labs


Polt spawns in the top left
Bomber spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Gas first for Bomber.
Barracks/gas for Polt.
Polt getting a reaper.

3:00
Quick factory for Bomber.
Polt sending his reaper to Bomber's main.

4:00
Bomber getting a hellion and a starport.
Factory for Polt.
Polt getting a CC.

5:00
Banshee for Bomber.
Polt getting a starport.
Bomber expands.
Reaper from Polt kills an SCV.
Reaper gets in the main and sees a cloaked banshee.

7:00 (T)Polt 45 vs (T)Bomber 40
Banshee gets into the natural.
Polt dropping marines below the Banshee and nearly killing it.
Stim for Polt.
Bomber getting a third CC.
Marine/tank vs Marine/tank.

8:00 (T)Polt 62 vs (T)Bomber 50
Polt loads up a drop.
Bomber getting a reactor on his starport.
Stim finishing for Bomber.
Polt about to go for a drop and avoids a widow mine.

9:00 (T)Polt 77 vs (T)Bomber 60
Polt scans Bomber's main.
Both players getting +1 attack.
Stim for Polt.
Combat shields for Bomber.

10:00 (T)Polt 96 vs (T)Bomber 81
Bomber moves out with a hellion and it dies to a widow mine.
Bomber finds a medivac and some marines but loses some of his marines to a widow mine.

12:00 (T)Polt 114 vs (T)Bomber 103
Polt gets into the main with 3 tanks and marines in a drop.
Widow mine nearly kills all of the tanks and Bomber holds easily.
Comba shields for Polt.
+1 armor for both players.
Sensor tower for Polt.
Both players are on 3 bases.
Polt is 20 workers up.

13:00 (T)Polt 118 vs (T)Bomber 126
Bomber moving out.
Polt snipes a tank.
Bomber backs off and Polt tries chasing.

14:00 (T)Polt 121 vs (T)Bomber 143
Bomber is getting an armory.
+2/2 for Polt.
Bomber moving towards the third now.
Bomber sieges below the ramp outside the natural.
Bomber zones out the third base and attacks it with marines.
Polt gets to his third in time to repair.

17:00 (T)Polt 143 vs (T)Bomber 165
Polt breaks Bomber's line and Bomber retreats.
Bomber is still down 10 workers.
Polt moving out with a drop.
Bomber going to the area outside Polt's natural and seiging up.
Polt picks off a spotting medivac.

18:00 (T)Polt 175 vs (T)Bomber 193
Bomber picking up a lot of his army.
Bomber going for a drop which Polt sees with a sensor tower.
Bomber loses most of the marines and some medivacs in his drop.
Polt has to lift his third.
Polt's drop forced Bomber to lift.
Bomber gets a huge tank line outside Polt's natural.

19:00 (T)Polt 105 vs (T)Bomber 109
Polt pulls SCVs and manages to break Bomber's line, but loses 32 workers.
+3 attack finishing for Polt while Bomber starts +2 armor.
Bomber going for another large drop.
Polt going for the third with a few marines but Bomber's in position.
Bomber gets in Polt's main.

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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#829
I think that same push rekt cure.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#830
On October 13 2014 08:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:49 Deathstar wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:48 stuchiu wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:44 AWalker9 wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Oh cool, let's indulge in a bunch of foreigner bashing!

I really have no issue with the WCS system if the players from Kr contribute to the development of that scene, but what we have seen is not really the case.

Is it any coincidence that for my money the European scene depth-wise is even more pronounced compared to NA? Scarlett and a few others aside it seems that EU has benefitted from a solid Korean contingent based in Europe and playing on the ladder.

For whatever reason you haven't seen the same in NA, is it really so unreasonably to actively intervene to try and create that kind of environment?


Dayshi earlier was complaining about WCS EU where the Koreans live in Europe

That's his opinion, I can't consume 100% of all SC content or speak for everyone, the impression I got is that foreign pros welcome a hefty Korean contingent on ladder/in their region for latency-free high level practice and it had a positive effect.



The only ones I know that liked the Koreans coming over was Bunny and Snute?

so the only foreigners that are actually good

It makes sense. Imagine StarCraft as a toilet.

To piss in the toilet, if male, you need the seat up. To shit in the toilet, or take a piss as Scarlett, you need the seat down. So 1v1's are a competition where one person is trying to piss in the toilet and one person is trying to shit in the toilet. Now if you're up against someone who's really good at dropping the seat, and you want to piss, you're never going to have a chance, and all the urine buildup inside you makes you really salty about all these newcomers who are trying to shit in your toilet. But if you're more or less on even terms, or a little bit behind, you actually welcome the opportunity to practice your strength by trying to hold the seat up while you take your piss and deny your opponent the ability to shit in the toilet.


lol wtf

I AGREE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS
rip passion
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
October 12 2014 23:57 GMT
#831
Bomber's drops are so freaking deadly. Polt
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#832
It's like the USSR vs Germany
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#833
On October 13 2014 08:56 sparklyresidue wrote:
Did Bomber lose all those medivacs? There's too much going on to have all my questions answered.

I miss in previous WCS Americas (i think it was when MLG ran the show) when they had the picture in picture, showing like a drop that was happening while a big fight went on.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#834
On October 13 2014 08:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:50 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:48 AWalker9 wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:46 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:44 AWalker9 wrote:
On October 13 2014 08:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Oh cool, let's indulge in a bunch of foreigner bashing!

I really have no issue with the WCS system if the players from Kr contribute to the development of that scene, but what we have seen is not really the case.

Is it any coincidence that for my money the European scene depth-wise is even more pronounced compared to NA? Scarlett and a few others aside it seems that EU has benefitted from a solid Korean contingent based in Europe and playing on the ladder.

For whatever reason you haven't seen the same in NA, is it really so unreasonably to actively intervene to try and create that kind of environment?


Dayshi earlier was complaining about WCS EU where the Koreans live in Europe

I hate most foreigners.


It's the ones that feel entitled all the time are the one's I generally dislike

That why I said most

I really don't think it is most, or at the very least I think most are OK with Koreans who live in and are active in the EU scene. One day when TL polls pros I may be proven entirely wrong.

Most complaints I recall were from Koreans who played from Korea until the offline portion so never really contributed in terms of raising the overall practice environment in EU. You can't just magically raise your game to a level you don't play at regularly for tournaments, but you can peak at a level consistent with your level of practice.

It's literally that I'm 'complaining' about, and considering my preferred tweaks to the tournament lineup mostly revolve around more tournaments IN Korea I don't believe I can be accused of bias against the region.

Final correction. Hate the vocal whiners, just pisses me off and makes me jaded to the foreign scene -.-
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#835
holy shit the upgrades
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 12 2014 23:59 GMT
#836
This is such a GomTvT classic.
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
October 12 2014 23:59 GMT
#837
Bomber is a machine!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 12 2014 23:59 GMT
#838
G_G
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 12 2014 23:59 GMT
#839
Noo Polt .
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 12 2014 23:59 GMT
#840
fun game.
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