EPTOn October 11 2014 14:56 MiniFotToss wrote:
Zest beat MMA 2-1 in GSL Global earlier this year
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On October 06 2014 06:02 sudete wrote:
MMA fan rant
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On October 06 2014 05:24 Qwerty85 wrote:
Well, Flash did destroy Zest 4-1 and that is his weakest matchup so anything can really happen.
I dont see why MMA wouldn't be able to beat him
On October 06 2014 05:20 Sakkreth wrote:
I wouldn't call it miraculous, Protoss hasn't been doing that good lately and it was his worst matchup. Still beating someone like Zest or cj herO might be really hard but he might not even face them. And in other matchups MMA shines and is atleast as good as anyone who will attend blizzcon not namingly soO or Innovation.
On October 06 2014 05:15 sudete wrote:
Given that he'd probably have to beat more than a couple of top-class kespa players to do that, it would be pretty miraculous. But not many (other than Artosis) would begrudge him such a win, I guess
On October 06 2014 05:13 Sakkreth wrote:
Would be kind of cool if MMA won Blizzcon.
Would be kind of cool if MMA won Blizzcon.
Given that he'd probably have to beat more than a couple of top-class kespa players to do that, it would be pretty miraculous. But not many (other than Artosis) would begrudge him such a win, I guess
I wouldn't call it miraculous, Protoss hasn't been doing that good lately and it was his worst matchup. Still beating someone like Zest or cj herO might be really hard but he might not even face them. And in other matchups MMA shines and is atleast as good as anyone who will attend blizzcon not namingly soO or Innovation.
Well, Flash did destroy Zest 4-1 and that is his weakest matchup so anything can really happen.
I dont see why MMA wouldn't be able to beat him
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Given a lot of time to prepare, I suppose he would stand a chance against a PvT monster like Zest/herO. But when it comes down to playing standard, imo as a pretty hardcore fan of MMA, he is only exceptional at TvZ and late game TvT. Compared to the likes of Flash, Inno and Taeja, he doesn't fare as well against P. His play lacks some additional dimensions, perhaps the sort which leads into scouting and reacting properly to tech switches (and not A-moving into 4 colossus with only 2 vikings, or drop into a main guarded by 8 chargelots and 2 templars) and also late late game army control.
I definitely think he can beat Stardust and be a good match for any of the Terrans / Zergs other than soO, but can you imagine if he was matched up against Zest, herO or Classic? That would be extremely difficult. It's not like in TvZ where you can trust him to come up with some high percentage play like proxy rax or a well executed hellbat push and yet have a good backup with powerful macro play. It's not like in TvT where he can use well planned early game strategies to get a great advantage, or where he can anchor his game on his trademark marine-tank style.
He'll have to figure something out, and it is not gonna be as simple as pulling SCVs, or dropping at the main while pushing the third, "money widow mine shots" or EMPs on clumped up templars into viking A-move as he can with lower tier Protoss. He will probably have to rely on some tricks to Mvp his way out of those matches, if you know what I mean. I just can't imagine a world where Zest with his ridiculous army positioning and control doesn't outgun MMA in the late game.
Of course, I'd love for him to win Blizzcon and make people happy, but realistically it's going to take a fair bit of bracket luck and some phenomenal preparation. It's not impossible, and it would be truly amazing, but realistically, ugh.
I definitely think he can beat Stardust and be a good match for any of the Terrans / Zergs other than soO, but can you imagine if he was matched up against Zest, herO or Classic? That would be extremely difficult. It's not like in TvZ where you can trust him to come up with some high percentage play like proxy rax or a well executed hellbat push and yet have a good backup with powerful macro play. It's not like in TvT where he can use well planned early game strategies to get a great advantage, or where he can anchor his game on his trademark marine-tank style.
He'll have to figure something out, and it is not gonna be as simple as pulling SCVs, or dropping at the main while pushing the third, "money widow mine shots" or EMPs on clumped up templars into viking A-move as he can with lower tier Protoss. He will probably have to rely on some tricks to Mvp his way out of those matches, if you know what I mean. I just can't imagine a world where Zest with his ridiculous army positioning and control doesn't outgun MMA in the late game.
Of course, I'd love for him to win Blizzcon and make people happy, but realistically it's going to take a fair bit of bracket luck and some phenomenal preparation. It's not impossible, and it would be truly amazing, but realistically, ugh.
Zest beat MMA 2-1 in GSL Global earlier this year
1. Losing against Zest in any matchup is no shame
2. Losing 1-2 in a close and exciting series is even less of a shame
