Finally it is the time of the year all of you know: eSports is coming home!
Well, “home” is not quite right this time. To celebrate the 10th edition we leave our beloved TaKeTV Studio just for the event and move into a location that really sets a focus on celebrating. “Königsburg Krefeld” is the place to be if you want to join an epic party in Krefeld and our venue for the 10th edition of the HomeStory Cup powered by XMG. November 13th - 16th is the date to look out for, further information about this event can be found below.
Date
Players
Format
As you might know we always play 2 group stages at the first 3 days, followed by a single elimination bracket on the final day. Only the best 2 players from a total of 4 in each group will move on to the next round until only 8 players are left to play the elimination bracket.
The group stage is played in a best-of-3 series but on the final day we will extend the series to a best-of-5 and the final will be played in a thrilling best-of-7 series! All games will be shown on stream. For this we will provide two English streams with professional casters like Kevin 'RotterdaM' van der Kooi, Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson, Evan 'Winter' Ballnik and of course all the progamers who will be available on site. The games will start at 2 pm every day.
The first group stage will be divided into two days, showing four groups per day. On the third day we will have a 2nd group stage where the remaining 16 players fight for a slot in the playoffs. On the final day we will only have the 8 playoff matches: 4, quarterfinals, 2 semifinals, the third place match and ultimately the Grand Final at the end of the tournament.
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Caster
Casting at HomeStory Cup powered by XMG has always been one of its kind, a perfect mixture of madness and other funny mixtures. The two HSC veterans 'iNcontroL' and 'RotterdaM', the last one finally live and in person, will host the exciting matches for you, together with Winter.
“Unique” casts like this are guaranteed:
Location
Not only is the Königsburg an integral part of Krefeld, also it boasts innovative design and an older core. The resulting unique charm is therefore perfectly suited for HomeStory Cup X powered by XMG. Four different areas, two bars as well as a waterfall and a swimming pool (!) offer plenty of room for the combination of a unique Starcraft 2 tournament and our very first EnterTheGame festival.
The fact that you can have a unique party and gaming experience there should go without mention. Your physical well-being during those four days of party and gaming will of course also be taken care of! An in-house pizzeria, a barbecue on the roof terrace and several waffle booths will provide you with fresh food at all times!
EnterTheGame
Playing a round of Mario Kart or Fifa with some friends, test a brand new gaming title, drink a beer with your favorite streamer and conclude everything by enjoying StarCraft rapper 'Temp0' live and on stage. The EnterTheGame festival offers you all of the above mentioned and even more! Our Partners invite you to test their products and participate in other cool actions like the well-known BeatThePro.
Raffle
The Starcraft 2 players can win a huge prize pool , if you party with us in the 'Königsburg' you also have the chance to win a lot of cool stuff such as monitors, gaming chairs, peripherals and games. All combined worth a massive 10,000€. So don't hesitate and use your chance while you are there. You will get your raffle tickets with your entry ticket.
Tickets
The HomeStory Cup powered by XMG is enjoyed best live an on the spotm accordingly we have tied three ticket packages for yout to guarantee you a perfect stay.
Day tickets bought at the box office at 'Königsburg' will cost 10€ (minimum consumption). If you order it as a 'Starter Ticket' in advance you will receive 1 waffle for free at the location!
PREMIUM
Some more advantages offers the Premium Ticket . Not only will you receive a 10€ beverage voucher, 11€ meal voucher per day, a TaKeTV poster signed by the casters and a numbered shirt, 5 raffle tickets but also you will get free drinks at the aftershow-party on Saturday.
This package will cost 65/85/105/125 € depending on the number of days. Only the first 120 ticket holders will also get access to the VIP party, so you better hurry up!
ULTRA
Hanging out with the players, a perfect seat in front of the stage and many other cool advantages? You can receive all of this and more in our Ultra Ticket, which, as the name suggests, is aimed towards the most loyal fans of TaKeTV. Furthermore it offers you a 10€ drink voucher, 50€ food voucher, a personalized shirt and zipper with the TaKeTV house & your number, free drinks at the aftershow-party on Saturday and a poster with caster's and player's signatures and ten raffle tickets for free. The opportunity to get the most out of a unique experience costs 245€ and will only be given 25 times!
As a thank you to our fans we offer free night's lodging for 200 people in a huge hall, just like in old LAN Party times. You should only bring a sleeping bag or air mattress with you. Since we can only accept the first two hundred applications, you should hurry up! Please sign up for your place to sleep here.
In addition to this we'd like to make your journey to HomeStory Cup X powered by XMG easier by organizing several buses that will pick you up on Friday from different directions, set you down in Krefeld and bring you back on Sunday, for example via Kiel - Hanover - Hamburg; Dresden - Leipzig - Berlin and Munich - Stuttgart - Frankfurt. Are you interested in this? Please give us your feedback on the bus service in the official HomeStory Cup X powered by XMG Facebook group
Social Media
Do you want to speak up aswell? Got some feedback? Pumped for the event?
You shouldn't have any problems reaching us about this event! It doesn't matter if you have a question or a suggestion, or just want to tell us how you feel - we're always open ears!
You can find us on Twitter via @TakeTV and the official hashtags #HSCX or #TaKeTV. Alternatively you can find us on Facebook via TaKeTV.
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Winter is an interesting choice for caster, a bit out of the wheelhouse from the, "Old Boys Club," that tends to characterize HSC. Not a bad choice, but just saying. Regardless, I want to win one of the Need For Seat chairs this year, I try and I try and I try, but no dice thus far.
This is amazing, great price and great experience.
Only 125 euro's for 4 days? That's 31.25 euro per day, and you get a place to sleep, food covered, drinks covered + raffle tickets for some great prizes, after show party drinks, plus poster. Wow, what a deal. If I was homeless, I'd come to this event just because living off of 31.25 euro's per day with everything covered is lower than anything else you'd find in Germany.
Not to mention this sounds like the best experience for any SC2 you'll ever have, this is much more interactive than going to watch the GSL or something like that. Honestly, amazing deal, this sounds like the best tournament in SC2 history in terms of live viewer satisfaction I've ever seen.
Buy your tickets guys! If an airplane ticket didn't cost me $1200 to get there, I would come in a heartbeat.
Buy your tickets guys! If an airplane ticket didn't cost me $1200 to get there, I would come in a heartbeat.
Same. We need to have a CanadaStory Cup sometime! (preferably western canada so something ever happens here)
I agree, Alberta would make me really happy, BC is okay to I suppose. Don't get too much love here, but there is demand from what I can tell. A 3.5-4.5mil population Toronto/Montreal just sounds more appealing than a 1mil Calgary/Edmonton, or 2 million Vancouver and surroundings. I am quite certain that per capita, there are more gamers in Western Canada than Eastern Canada though.
On September 30 2014 02:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 30 2014 02:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Buy your tickets guys! If an airplane ticket didn't cost me $1200 to get there, I would come in a heartbeat.
Same. We need to have a CanadaStory Cup sometime! (preferably western canada so something ever happens here)
I agree, Alberta would make me really happy, BC is okay to I suppose. Don't get too much love here, but there is demand from what I can tell. A 3.5-4.5mil population Toronto/Montreal just sounds more appealing than a 1mil Calgary/Edmonton, or 2 million Vancouver and surroundings. I am quite certain that per capita, there are more gamers in Western Canada than Eastern Canada though.
I think any Albertan is pretty familiar with driving long distances to get anywhere, so really any city in this province is good for everyone. So that's ~3million population right there. Vancouver would be decent too I guess, but nothing happens in Alberta anyway so this would be a huge deal.
On September 30 2014 02:53 Deathstar wrote: What's wrong with Winter? I've seen his streams and he speaks clearly and explains what's going on in the game. Chill out lol
Ya Im with ya. I don't really understand the Winter Hate. Hes knowledgeable and speaks very clear, on top of having a great personality. Granted I don't always watch winters stream, But when I do its a blast. So please stop the hate train and wait after the event to judge im or anyone else for that matter.
On September 30 2014 02:53 Deathstar wrote: What's wrong with Winter? I've seen his streams and he speaks clearly and explains what's going on in the game. Chill out lol
Ya Im with ya. I don't really understand the Winter Hate. Hes knowledgeable and speaks very clear, on top of having a great personality. Granted I don't always watch winters stream, But when I do its a blast. So please stop the hate train and wait after the event to judge im or anyone else for that matter.
Some people love him some people hate him. I've tried watching his stream, I've tried watching him cast other stuff. I've talked to a friend who likes Winter to try to see why he likes him. I just don't get it. I can't stand him.
I'm currently calculating the cost if I go there for two days. It would be something like 250/300€ including tickets, hotel and train. It's not that bad and really tempting.
On September 30 2014 03:10 Boucot wrote: I'm currently calculating the cost if I go there for two days. It would be something like 250/300€ including tickets, hotel and train. It's not that bad and really tempting.
I'm warming(hurr hurr) to Winter, as a caster. I don't know anything about his stream, don't watch player streams, but he's greatly improved as a caster lately. I used to find him highly annoying, but he's chilled out a lot, and just kind of calls things as he sees them.
Also, he seems to volunteer to stream a lot of stuff others don't bother with, giving people a way to catch games they otherwise might have missed.
From what I've seen of Winters stream, which is minimal (due to not enjoying it), I don't think I'll enjoy his casting at all. I can see him being good to cater for SC2 noobies I guess, but majority of us watching love the Pro level commentary more than anything. He doesn't seem to a good fit for a HSC event, but whatever.
Apart from that, this loooks sick! Shame I've used up my holiday time up at work, seems like an awesome event to attend.
On September 30 2014 03:10 Boucot wrote: I'm currently calculating the cost if I go there for two days. It would be something like 250/300€ including tickets, hotel and train. It's not that bad and really tempting.
On September 30 2014 03:10 Boucot wrote: I'm currently calculating the cost if I go there for two days. It would be something like 250/300€ including tickets, hotel and train. It's not that bad and really tempting.
So I worked out how much I would be spending to go, about £100 for the flights about £100 for a hotel (sorry not going to sleep on a floor back gets screwed) and then maybe £50 for food and drinks maybe more. Then budget tickets at £8 a day so £32.
Roughly £300 at the minimum and I'd want to go for a premium at minimum and I would probably spend more on food/drink so I'd be looking more at £420. edit- just realised the number pun not intentional.
Don't think I can drop that sort of money. Shame. Is there anyway we can enter/pay for signed items during the event and then pay for shipping?
Interested to see how Winter interacts with everyone. His chat is ruled with an iron first so it will be interesting to see him interact with the overly BM-sarcasm (which is awesome) that is HSC.
Would you guys lay off of the caster bashing? I mean there are a lot of people that I don't like as casters, either because they crossed me personally or because of their casting quality, but I may not always vocalize it.
I guess it will be business like usual. IMO we'll see a strong euro contingent mixed with US fan favorites plus some awesome Koreans and the one or other surprise pick.
On September 30 2014 02:32 myRZeth wrote: it s awesome, but please no winter
Winter's not as bad as he used to be.
I'm going to miss the homey atmosphere, but I'm sure I'll enjoy the new party atmosphere! And Incontrol and Rotterdam should guarantee some awesome casts. I wonder if the Axiom boys could be talked into casting a Korean stream.
On September 30 2014 03:44 BreAKerTV wrote: Would you guys lay off of the caster bashing? I mean there are a lot of people that I don't like as casters, either because they crossed me personally or because of their casting quality, but I may not always vocalize it.
We are entitled to voice our opinions. Casting is a job, and just like any other; if you're not good at it, you shouldn't be doing it (not that I'm saying he's that bad). There are loads of great casters, he's just not one of the best in my opinion.
Mostly I find it a strange decision, he doesn't seem to fit with the HSC feel. Saying this, I hope he proves us wrong and Take made the right decision. Will be a sick event regardless.
Highly curious and excited to see Winter in action for casting a pro tournament. Absolutely love his stream, but that only demonstrates his ability to explain fundamentals/basic strategy to lower skill players. I wanna see how he does in terms of describing the pros.
On September 30 2014 02:32 myRZeth wrote: it s awesome, but please no winter
I will confess I am not the biggest fan of his stream, but I am definitely willing to give him a chance. Also some new faces on the big stage are nice for a change.
Looking forward to another awesome HSC! #HYPE
On September 30 2014 03:44 BreAKerTV wrote: Would you guys lay off of the caster bashing? I mean there are a lot of people that I don't like as casters, either because they crossed me personally or because of their casting quality, but I may not always vocalize it.
Holy shit this sounds fuckin amazing! Sounds like a weekend retreat for Starcraft fans and a bound to be awesome tournament all in one. If I was in Europe, I'd dig into the savings and go to this party, wow!
Next HSC... probably ultra ticket... right now I cannot get legally outside of Czech Republic(my ID card is a little bit outdated :D oops :D) and I also do not have vacation days to get there comfortably enough... DAMN IT!
On September 30 2014 03:44 BreAKerTV wrote: Would you guys lay off of the caster bashing? I mean there are a lot of people that I don't like as casters, either because they crossed me personally or because of their casting quality, but I may not always vocalize it.
Also, for the record, we already had a couple of German guys casting in english on HomeStoryCup, when their knowledge of the language was ridiculous (e.g. HeroMarine and some other kid). People will automatically turn off the stream cause of that. Don't mind Khaldor of course, but there is just that level of dignity that HSC should still have when it comes to casters.
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I don't think winter is very good at the game nor is he super knowledgeable, however I assume they want to use his persona to raise the viewer count which makes a lot of sense.
On September 30 2014 03:25 Jornada wrote: These players are a must for invites!
Jaedong Flash Rain Zest Parting Innovation SoulKey Stork Maru Scarlett Taeja soO FanTaSy
Homestory Cup isn't only about the best possible play, it's about entertainment. I am not sure if a huge amount of KESPA players could deliver or would be up for casting. Even though I think Jaedong, Flash (maybe), Parting, Innovation (maybe), Scarlett, Taeja and 1-2 more KESPA Koreans will be there, the rest would be to much.
Cool how you can view bot to make yourself known then be an average community caster and be invited to host at a reputable event while other community casters do it the hard way and don't make it. Awesome! :D
Production always had a good feel to put the casters out that the community wants (for the main stream). So if Winter blows he will probably be put into another role. Conversely, Incontrol has always got a bigger role whenever he participated. And to some extent I find that a little sad, not because I don't like hearing Incontrol cast, but HSC was always a place to hear players cast that are very rough around the edges, even if it might not appeal to everyone. Well, at least there is always the side stream.
But I don't want to end the post with a sad note, so I go with YAY HOMESTORY CUP! HOMESTORY CUP!
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
So he popped out and got 3k concurrent viewers while other streamers who are actually good are struggling from where exactly?
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
So he popped out and got 3k concurrent viewers while other streamers who are actually good are struggling from where exactly?
mass exodus from theSTC's stream once he retired. Or maybe it was Liquid'Sea? Now that I think of it, they may come from thebestfou's fanclub....
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
So he popped out and got 3k concurrent viewers while other streamers who are actually good are struggling from where exactly?
mass exodus from theSTC's stream once he retired. Or maybe it was Liquid'Sea?
No guys it was from Flash's stream when he streamed that one time
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
So he popped out and got 3k concurrent viewers while other streamers who are actually good are struggling from where exactly?
mass exodus from theSTC's stream once he retired. Or maybe it was Liquid'Sea?
No guys it was from Flash's stream when he streamed that one time
Haha I was actually thinking of typing that before I went with the Haypro/Jinro theory.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
Then where did his viewership come from? His play is sub par (compared to other streamers) and his casting is just ok. Where did all those viewers come from and how did they all come so fast?
I don't understand why it is ok for people to spread this hate towards winter tbh (not only hate, this are serious accusations which damage his brand cause people believe everything more than one "source" says). It is kinda a witch hunt, i actually don't think this should be ok on these forums, where can i post this complain to get some discussion on this?
On September 30 2014 09:00 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't understand why it is ok for people to spread this hate towards winter tbh (not only hate, this are serious accusations which damage his brand cause people believe everything more than one "source" says). It is kinda a witch hunt, i actually don't think this should be ok on these forums, where can i post this complain to get some discussion on this?
Website feedback gogo
And apparently it's not going to hurt him because he's getting hosting gigs out of the blue
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
Then where did his viewership come from? His play is sub par (compared to other streamers) and his casting is just ok. Where did all those viewers come from and how did they all come so fast?
Dude, the statistics speak for themselves read the Reddit thread. Unless you want to accuse Stephano of viewbotting as well then you simply can't say that Winter is viewbotting.
I'll post the conclusion for clarity but I would recommend that people have a look at the raw statistics themselves.
So, is someone viewbotting Winter's channel? Probably not, unless someone is viewbotting both his and Stephano’s stream as well. Stephano and Winter have roughly the same statistics across the board in every metric. According to chat message counts, unique people in chat, followers, and drops in viewer count over a 2 minute period of time, both winter and Stephano have roughly equivalent statistics across the board (though Stephano has higher average and peak viewer counts).
Similarly, other metrics used (such as messages in chat, and "drops" in viewer count, as cited on Unfiltered) fall apart under closer scrutiny. Other SC2 streamers have very similar numbers in terms of chat messages, people chatting, and "viewer drops". At this point, only twitch could find out if someone is view botting, and if Winter is botting (based on the statistics), other popular sc2 streamers (such as stephano) must be as well.
Let me introduce a radical theory here. Maybe people tune into Winter's streams because they like his content because they have a different taste to you? Outlandish, I know.
The tourney looks soooooo sick. HSC never ceases to amaze!!
Community should rally around a guy like Rifkin so Winter stays home. This guy has put 10 000 times the effort. Hell Id rather get avilo casting than Winter.
dont know what is the deal between Take and Winter, but there is still time to give the fans what they want! ( and reward an awesome member of the sc2 community )
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)
This guy is not relevant to the esports scene at all, how he's being included in an event this big is baffling
On September 30 2014 09:00 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't understand why it is ok for people to spread this hate towards winter tbh (not only hate, this are serious accusations which damage his brand cause people believe everything more than one "source" says). It is kinda a witch hunt, i actually don't think this should be ok on these forums, where can i post this complain to get some discussion on this?
Website feedback gogo
And apparently it's not going to hurt him because he's getting hosting gigs out of the blue
I actually don't bother cause TL seems fine with it regardless. I just think it is kinda sad you apparently can accuse somebody without any real evidence and get away with it. Whatever, hate on!
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)
Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.
I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.
On September 30 2014 09:00 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't understand why it is ok for people to spread this hate towards winter tbh (not only hate, this are serious accusations which damage his brand cause people believe everything more than one "source" says). It is kinda a witch hunt, i actually don't think this should be ok on these forums, where can i post this complain to get some discussion on this?
Website feedback gogo
And apparently it's not going to hurt him because he's getting hosting gigs out of the blue
I actually don't bother cause TL seems fine with it regardless. I just think it is kinda sad you apparently can accuse somebody without any real evidence and get away with it. Whatever, hate on!
Darkhorse is actually a writer for Team Liquid so you'd never get anywhere anyway. But besides, it's almost good in a way that people post defamatory shit because it gives people a chance to post the facts and put them straight so I don't think censorship and reporting the thread is the way to go anyway.
As for Darkhorse, I dunno, he always seemed like a cool guy to me in all his other posts on here.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
So he popped out and got 3k concurrent viewers while other streamers who are actually good are struggling from where exactly?
Nope. He was pretty unknown until about 12 months ago, exploded in December by doing community casting for some event (IEM? DH?) then steadily grew past 1K, then 1.5K, then 2K and beyond from about February till today.
Also, the fact that Twitch gave him a PREMIUM partnership means he's been cleared by them. (Not to mention the fact that staff chat with him in his own channel).
Plus the Reddit thread statistically proving he doesn't bot.
Plus community alarms like the Twitch_Bot Twitter account or however it's called.
How much proof do we need to throw at you before you drop this ridiculous tirade? I say this to everyone that steps in here just to whine about Winter and throw not only baseless but demonstrably false accusations against the guy.
I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)
Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.
I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.
I don't care enough about this to write another long post but your idea of " evidence " is fucking hilarious
I'll leave it at this: there are twitch staff that are in on this shit, it's a corrupt business just like any other in the world.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)
Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.
I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.
I don't care enough about this to write another long post but your idea of " evidence " is fucking hilarious
I'll leave it at this: there are twitch staff that are in on this shit, it's a corrupt business just like any other in the world.
I always knew it, twitch chat is 90% bots, there was no way real people are that retarded
On September 30 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote: I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.
I would totally support that. Rifkin is #DaPassion - even though he plays terran :p
Even if winter has viewbotted in the past, what's there to be done now? He got the gig and we'll see how he does. If he spaghettis he'll disappear and if he's good he'll continue on. It's not like other people in esports haven't done questionable things to get a breakthrough.
On September 30 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote: I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.
I would totally support that. Rifkin is #DaPassion - even though he plays terran :p
Only people with passion play terran This is a fact. Patron Saint Boxer has set the example.
But Rifkin would def be a good addition. I watch his casts a lot of times.
I personally am excited BECAUSE Winter is casting it. Oh and I love all the GM players confused about why Winter has lots of viewers even though he is "only mid-Masters". Nobody gives a shit that you are GM, people watch players because of personality and commentary. Winter is easily the best streamer at that and that is why he is popular. Only way to get viewers based on skill is if you are a RO4+ WCS Premier league player or a champion of a major tournament. Even then, your viewers will be lower than streamers with good commentary unless you match it.
Have checked winter's stream a few times, purely out of curiosity because the high viewership. I gotta say that he's far from impressive, mostly only describe whatever happen atm, analysis kind of shallow, don't know much about player history or style. Then again, he's a community streamer, not a full time caster and I don't think he put so much effort like a pro caster, so the casting style is kind of understandable.
This event might be his window of opportunity to step higher, but somehow I doubt he could deliver
Oh, and I agree with the guy above, viewership isn't solely depend on skill. I see MC, Bomber, and Stardust streaming, their viewership is far below incontrol or demuslim. Skillwise, we know which one is better
On September 30 2014 14:52 stefan16 wrote: Have checked winter's stream a few times, purely out of curiosity because the high viewership. I gotta say that he's far from impressive, mostly only describe whatever happen atm, analysis kind of shallow, don't know much about player history or style.
ye, i was thinking the same. also his chat was really quiet for 3k people watching it. kinda boring tbh. even if i don´t think his appearance at hsc will change my mind about his stream, maybe i´ll understand why people like it.
Is winter that guy that stream from day 1 and have like ... 300 viewers ? (or maybe it's 3K ?) I remember that name but i'm not sure i'm on thhe good guy. Hope so, he was cool
On September 30 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote: I'm not a fan and I don't like his stream, so I would have preferred someone like RifKing instead. I also believe other comuinity members merit/deserve it more.
I would totally support that. Rifkin is #DaPassion - even though he plays terran :p
I think Take mentioned on stream that Winter offered to do this for free of his own and just wanted to come over and do this. Say what you want but he has #passion and makes his own opportunities. It's not lilke Take was looking for another caster he'd pay (I'm pretty sure it would've only been Rotti and iNcontrol originally) and decided on Winter. Winter made this happen on his own and I respect that. He will also be doing more interviews than casting (I can hear NarutO exhaling in relief).
On September 30 2014 14:17 Applesmack wrote: Nobody gives a shit that you are GM, people watch players because of personality and commentary. Winter is easily the best streamer at that and that is why he is popular.
Isn't personality something subjective? How can you be easily the best in something subjective? Seems quite hard to me.
Anyway, what is wrong with this thread? We have the announcement of the 10th HSC with all it's features and you are complaining about 1/37 of the casting-lineup, which doesn't even get paid to get there? The main casting will usually done by players anyway, the interviews are interesting because of answers, not questions, he will barely make any impact at all. And since he is apperently paying for himself, he is not taking a spot of someone else either. Just ignore him and watch the other 36 casters do their job.
On September 30 2014 21:01 The_Red_Viper wrote: This thread sums up what is wrong with the sc2 community perfectly. (read that in stephano's voice): It's fucking disgusting.
No, I'd heavily protest against that statement. People here are complaining about stuff, they don't agree with. You will see that everywhere. People complained about iNcontrol, Kaelaris, Naniwa, Idra, Axlav, Axeltoss, Husky, day[9] and Tasteless getting casting gigs before (actual casting gigs, not appearences in a tournament, which heavily focuses on players casting), discussions about that are nothing new. And the level of negativity compared to other games/forums is decently low as well.
The thing that is wrong with this thread is, that it's focus is on some detail instead of being on HSC 10.
On September 30 2014 22:00 eurTsItniH wrote: I have a feeling most of the people disliking Winter is only because of the viewbotting crap, I personally look forward to see him.
Both that. But have you seen him cast before? He did a cast with Riftkin and it ended up with Riftkin muting Winter for a while since he was so annoying. That guy should just stick to his stream and not casting a tour...
On September 30 2014 22:00 eurTsItniH wrote: I have a feeling most of the people disliking Winter is only because of the viewbotting crap, I personally look forward to see him.
Both that. But have you seen him cast before? He did a cast with Riftkin and it ended up with Riftkin muting Winter for a while since he was so annoying. That guy should just stick to his stream and not casting a tour...
is there a vid to watch or an article to read about?
Homestory Cup is the only lan I have attended, and it was so much fun. Getting to meet all of the players and have drinks with them feels like a unique HSC experience. I will be sure to watch this event! (Can't make it though.)
On September 30 2014 13:26 Yaqoob wrote: What is the nearest major airport near Krefeld?
Düsseldorf (DUS) and both Airports in Cologne can be considered "close". But Düsseldorf is not even one hour via train.
düseldorf airport train station to krefeld train station is exactly 30 minutes by train, used it often enough xD (some trains need 35 but the fastest is 30 ^^)
On September 30 2014 22:00 eurTsItniH wrote: I have a feeling most of the people disliking Winter is only because of the viewbotting crap, I personally look forward to see him.
Both that. But have you seen him cast before? He did a cast with Riftkin and it ended up with Riftkin muting Winter for a while since he was so annoying. That guy should just stick to his stream and not casting a tour...
is there a vid to watch or an article to read about?
It was the only time i saw him cast and he was a disaster, embarrassing himself trying to be funny. It wasn't a fight between them but he muted just to present something since Winter was talking non stop.
The Winter bashing is getting old by now. If you want to accuse him of viewbotting (this goes for anyone and everyone) it would be really cool if you spent five minutes looking at the material that people have gathered that essentially proves Winter "innocent". It's absolutely fine to not like him and voice that opinion, but acting like it's somehow a fact that he's a "viewbotting bitch" or something of the sort is stupid.
From all these enthusiastic endorsements on here and reddit Winter was clearly the right choice. But he seriously has a lot of uphill climbing to do if he's going to win over the sc community.
Dont understand the hate on winter. He is not like so many other players that just left streaming when they could not get the numbers. Just please dont waste a slot for incontrol in this tournament. Dont make it a joke.
On September 30 2014 03:16 Faefae wrote: I only heard of Winter because of this stream bot story. Hopefully he does such a good job that vierwership will be crazy high
He was proven innocent by Twitch by the way who looked into it when he applied for his premium partnership.
source?
Well there's this statistical analysis from Reddit which proved him innocent, the fact that he has never shown up in The Twitch Bot Detector. I don't have a source for the Twitch but it is true and there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they viewbotted.
Winter has said (as has Ketroc) that he has on a couple of isolated occasions had a view bot run on his channel without permission as a sort of free sample. But that is not in his control and not something he can be blamed for.
I'm going to help you since you apparently haven't researched twitch view bots at all.
1. Bots not only watch streams, they also talk in the chat(source: found this in 5 seconds using google: https://onlinestreambot.com/ ). The reddit link is worthless.
Not it's not at all worthless. It is analysing several data points, chat activity is only one of them. And besides, the numbers Winter pulls goes way beyond of the bot you are linking (only 40 chatters and 200 live viewers a month). Besides, if you ever have been in Winter's chat you would know how authentic it is. No different to BaseTradeTV's chat with similar numbers.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:2. " there's no way Twitch would allow someone to get a Premium Partnership (which allows the streamer to get more sub and and ad revenue from Twitch) if they view botted. "
One of the major advertisement points for these view bot selling companies is helping you get partnered quickly.
Well obviously it doesn't work because Twitch has more about them, hence why Winter was recently cleared by them.
On September 30 2014 09:07 Dodgin wrote:3. What Winter says on the topic doesn't matter, you could easily claim that someone else is view botting you and there's nothing you can do about it while actually being the one doing it yourself. Who in the fuck would spend their own money on view botting someone else's channel?(Okay I'm sure It's been done, but really how unlikely is this)
Are you calling Ketroc a liar too? And I'm pretty sure that Rifkin has talked about some dodgy stuff with the viewer count that he was unsure about too.
I mean at this stage despite all the evidence you are clearly just believing what you want to believe because the reality contradicts your preconceived beliefs and opinion of the guy.
I don't care enough about this to write another long post but your idea of " evidence " is fucking hilarious
I'll leave it at this: there are twitch staff that are in on this shit, it's a corrupt business just like any other in the world.
Well, you don't need any evidence to prove someone's innocence, you need evidence to prove someone's guilt, tbh.
Hi, we're at our work office are really hyped to go to this, my only concern is the dates are kind of close to blizzcon. Anyone think that will affect players going to the event?
On October 01 2014 14:33 Idiocracy1 wrote: Hi, we're at our work office are really hyped to go to this, my only concern is the dates are kind of close to blizzcon. Anyone think that will affect players going to the event?
Since this starts 5 days after Blizzcon ends, I don't see why it would
On October 01 2014 14:33 Idiocracy1 wrote: Hi, we're at our work office are really hyped to go to this, my only concern is the dates are kind of close to blizzcon. Anyone think that will affect players going to the event?
I don't think so. I it would be shortly before Blizzcon, it might hurt, but since it is shortly after, I see no reason, why players would be influenced by this.
On October 01 2014 17:34 tshi wrote: I can see Incontrol making jokes at the expense of poor Winter with Rotterdam laughing.
Can't wait.
Oh yeah... the only thing i read when i saw Winter's name was : "oh god... Incontrol is going to troll him like mad". Hey, maybe Winter will troll incontrol and rotty will laugh :p
I can confirm that this Winter kid is supicious. Everyone doubts his activities since spring this year when he was getting 3000 /viewers/bots as a diamond level player.
Today I was in his stream, again 1700 people watching, the same 20 people actually chatting. And those 20 were pretty angry when I mention something about botting and banned me.
If I remember that Desrow who worked his ass off with streaming, creating content, teaching players how to play, even playing on tournaments, WCS etc. Now he has audience that Winter has except he actually worked for it and it took him nearly 3 years to get there. Winter just get this audiance from day to day.
1,7k has usually Khaldor in this time of day when he's casting some game from Korea.
And the recent TOP streamers list from TL is embarrasing aswell. How can Winter beat players like Stephano who used to have 15k viewers or basically anyone. Grubby, Parting, DeMuslim are more famous and entertaining than he will ever will be.
I say: Let's boycott his attendence at homestory cup!
On October 03 2014 15:31 Nothera wrote: I can confirm that this Winter kid is supicious. Everyone doubts his activities since spring this year when he was getting 3000 /viewers/bots as a diamond level player.
Today I was in his stream, again 1700 people watching, the same 20 people actually chatting. And those 20 were pretty angry when I mention something about botting and banned me.
If I remember that Desrow who worked his ass off with streaming, creating content, teaching players how to play, even playing on tournaments, WCS etc. Now he has audience that Winter has except he actually worked for it and it took him nearly 3 years to get there. Winter just get this audiance from day to day.
1,7k has usually Khaldor in this time of day when he's casting some game from Korea.
And the recent TOP streamers list from TL is embarrasing aswell. How can Winter beat players like Stephano who used to have 15k viewers or basically anyone. Grubby, Parting, DeMuslim are more famous and entertaining than he will ever will be.
I say: Let's boycott his attendence at homestory cup!
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Just out of curiosity, how are you going to boycott someones attendence?
Winter's stream is interesting, he does alot of stuff that us less-than-masters players can get on board with and learn from. The past is the past, each time I've watched him, his chat seems genuine enough.
HSC is 1 of my favourite tourneys of the year. The vibe of the event, the way it brings all the players & personalities together in a low key manner, where everyone gets to be themselves a little bit more & we get to see more of their personalities. It creates a sense of family that IS the SC2 community amongst all that attend, its really refreshing to see. Its for that reason why i believe so many people are surprised Winter is attending, because whether its right or not, he has become somewhat of a derisive topic. Perhaps some people are just afraid his presence may take more away from the overall enjoyment then adding to it. This i believe is the heart of the anti Winter stuff. What does he add by going, versus if he wasnt there at all. As it is this announcement has been not just about an awesome tournament, but has now degraded into people voicing their opinions about a guy named Winter who as someone stated earlier, only represents 1/37th of the event itself. Perhaps this will translate into more viewers overall, or perhaps people will flame in chat when he's on, or they will find another stream all together. I personally wouldnt have brought him along, but I for one will watch HSC like i do every year & cant wait to see some awesome games & commentary! Thanks again to all those that make this event happen! U know who u are! Peace!
PS, Rifkin's the man. 1 of the hardest working casters out there. Passion up the wazzoo for the game. Would love to see him at a HSC or any event out there.
I love HSC, by far, the most entertaining tourney out there, but Winter? Is he there to replace Destiny? The guy really needs to lay off the coffee and slow down his stream/casts. This is not a speed talking contest.
On October 04 2014 07:46 SirPinky wrote: Oh one question. How old is Winter? I may take back what I said above if he can get drunk. Maybe he will speak at a normal speed if he is drunk
HSC is in Germany, drinking age here is 16 (at least officially) and I am just going to assume, that he is older than that.
On October 04 2014 07:46 SirPinky wrote: Oh one question. How old is Winter? I may take back what I said above if he can get drunk. Maybe he will speak at a normal speed if he is drunk
On October 01 2014 02:12 Zealously wrote: The Winter bashing is getting old by now. If you want to accuse him of viewbotting (this goes for anyone and everyone) it would be really cool if you spent five minutes looking at the material that people have gathered that essentially proves Winter "innocent". It's absolutely fine to not like him and voice that opinion, but acting like it's somehow a fact that he's a "viewbotting bitch" or something of the sort is stupid.
Agreed, that said TL staff should be the first to refrain from that. There's TL's leeway to respected posters and contributors and there's people saying identical things and some being banned/warned and others not.
Regardless, this event looks sick. If it wasn't such relatively short notice I'd have been there to see some of you fine TLers, maybe next year!
Also please stfu about 'x is so hardworking, they deserve y'. Sometimes just working hard isn't enough, you have to have a particular talent. If it was down to hard work alone Protech's 391 hours streamed last month would count for more
Just CONGRATULATIONS and RESPECT Take. You ve build up an amazing company/brand in e-sports/sc2, and this HSC10 really shows, how huge it is. The legends from Broodwar, probably the most wanted tourney player in the world at HSC10. Wow. Congratz, i m really happy for you and your team!
OMG. Flash and Jaedong. I didn't follow the news, but Stork hopefully too? He had fun last time if i remember correctly. If so, where are you Bisu?! :D
Sorry to nitpick (and sorry if this has been nitpicked about earlier), but is it still technically a HOMEstory cup if it doesn't take place at TaKe's place ?
On October 14 2014 16:30 LoneYoShi wrote: Sorry to nitpick (and sorry if this has been nitpicked about earlier), but is it still technically a HOMEstory cup if it doesn't take place at TaKe's place ?
I think Homestory Cup is just as much about the homely and laid-back atmosphere as it is about actually being at Take's place. Everything the tournament is remains, only in a different location.
On October 14 2014 16:30 LoneYoShi wrote: Sorry to nitpick (and sorry if this has been nitpicked about earlier), but is it still technically a HOMEstory cup if it doesn't take place at TaKe's place ?
I think Homestory Cup is just as much about the homely and laid-back atmosphere as it is about actually being at Take's place. Everything the tournament is remains, only in a different location.
Let's be real. If JD and Flash are at the same place at the same time, it has to be home
EU Qualifier - October, 21st 6:00 PM CEST KR Qualifier - October, 23rd 12:00 PM CEST [KST 7:00 PM] NA Qualifier - October, 23rd 9:00 PM CEST [EDT 3:00 PM] Top 4 Qualifier - October, 25th 4:00 PM CEST [KST 11:00 PM; EDT 10:00 AM]
This caught me by surprise. I just saw the date for the European qualifier in the TL calendar and looked for more information. I hope people who want to participate in the qualifiers are better informed than me. Otherwise this is short notice.
On October 22 2014 01:37 Dewis wrote: Where do you report results? What is the bnet channel? I have no idea what I should do and can't find info anywhere.
Yeah the info for qualifiers was definitely a bit lacking... I even asked about this a few days ago and nobody said anything. Then today I just happen to see the HSC qualifier on the TL calendar.
On October 22 2014 03:12 deacon.frost wrote: And they say Terran cannot be aggressive :D Obviously they hidden this info for this Terran, poor First xD
But the T played it wonderfully, well played!
That's just Lillekanin for you, man. He's like the mannered version of Ruff.
On October 22 2014 05:25 FrogsAreDogs wrote: Can we please get a better observer for these games? I know its just the qualifiers but this is becoming unwatchable
Not many really exciting players in that qualifier, but a chunk of good Zergs. Seems good. Also does anyone know if, just like last time, we'll have a mini-tournament between the qualified players from KR and NA to determine who gets his travel paid?
On October 23 2014 22:28 Tzyx wrote: SoO seems like he's left it so long gumi might just end up with a horrible pile of mech he cant do anything about.
On October 23 2014 22:28 Tzyx wrote: SoO seems like he's left it so long gumi might just end up with a horrible pile of mech he cant do anything about.
Think you're in the wrong LR thread mate :D
Lol, i think you are correct. Watching 2 streams at once, failing at posting
challonge brackets state that "Everyone is allowed to participate in one of the qualifiers with the only requirement that your official place of residence needs to be in the specific region of the qualifier. "
so solar should not be allowed to play in this and im not sure if JYP would
On October 24 2014 05:48 Kuchikikun wrote: Avilo is saying that Petreaus hacks...
Of course Avilo is saying something like that. If he didnt had bad excuses like "race X op" or "player Y hacks" he would have to admit that he sucks compared to pros. And thats something he will never do
I hope he comes this time even if he doesn't get the full paid trip. Since he has no team, but sponsors, I guess his flight/accomodation budget would come from his own pocket.
At HSC the last 2 invites will be idra and Naniwa. They then invite Nerchio and then lock the three of them in with Stephano into a cage and have them fight.
On October 28 2014 06:19 stuchiu wrote: At HSC the last 2 invites will be idra and Naniwa. They then invite Nerchio and then lock the three of them in with Stephano into a cage and have them fight.
Esports saved.
I'd pay big money to see that. I cant even decide who wins... I guess it depends how drunk Stephano is...
Naniwa would win it. He has probably prepared strategies for this day since 2012. Idra might be buff and all but he'd get annoyed at the game and get knocked out while looking for a way to ragequit the cage. Stephano would be too drunk to hit anybody. Nerchio would smile while they're being beaten down by Naniwa until he realizes it's his turn next.
On October 28 2014 07:12 Musicus wrote: I hope a kespa zerg like Rogue joins.
Yeah or like Losira and Solar!
Solar would be awesome, love that guy and I think he would fit really well and would even sit on the couch since his english is so good. I always forget that MVP is part of KeSPA now .
I am disappointed about the first TBA being Dimaga, tbh. No hate, fun guy, but I am doubting his level of play. I hope the other one will be a big name. Even more since Polt or Hyun seems to not attend.
On November 04 2014 21:39 projectChaos wrote: I am disappointed about the first TBA being Dimaga, tbh. No hate, fun guy, but I am doubting his level of play. I hope the other one will be a big name. Even more since Polt or Hyun seems to not attend.
Wait what? Why? Polt and Hyun not attending...? D:
And I agree with your sentiment about Dimaga. Why you would allow him to play while putting ToD onto the caster couch is beyond me. I mean, at least ToD participated in the Premier League of the last WCS Europe, while Dimaga was eliminated in Season 2 of last year's WCS.
On November 04 2014 21:39 projectChaos wrote: I am disappointed about the first TBA being Dimaga, tbh. No hate, fun guy, but I am doubting his level of play. I hope the other one will be a big name. Even more since Polt or Hyun seems to not attend.
Wait what? Why? Polt and Hyun not attending...? D:
And I agree with your sentiment about Dimaga. Why you would allow him to play while putting ToD onto the caster couch is beyond me. I mean, at least ToD participated in the Premier League of the last WCS Europe, while Dimaga was eliminated in Season 2 of last year's WCS.
just referring to the mysterious tweet by Hyun (one page before this). I would rather guess that it means that only Polt won`t attend.
On November 05 2014 05:21 Mattidute wrote: I Think the tweet is more of a joke from Polt telling HyuN not to go (so that Polt has more chances on winning).
or that Hyun doesnt need to bother to go because Polt would crush Hyun anyways
I'd wait for a confirmation from TaKe that Polt isn't attending, HyuN's tweet could be out of humour because the two of them are close friends and things get lost in translation.
On November 05 2014 02:34 AngryMag wrote: Why Dimaga? Well, because Take, who happens to be quite the boss, says so and that is surely good enough for me.Looking forward to see him play
Wanna bet on his performance? I'm giving good odds. :D
Good for Petraeus but I'm really disappointed to not watch Polt at HSC. He would fit so well there. Did they give the reason ? I guess it's the price of the trip since he is technically "teamless" and it has to come out of his pocket.
On November 06 2014 20:27 djraphi23 wrote: I was expecting this
Good for Petraeus but I'm really disappointed to not watch Polt at HSC. He would fit so well there. Did they give the reason ? I guess it's the price of the trip since he is technically "teamless" and it has to come out of his pocket.
What happened to CMStorm? The team that has him and Revival?
On November 12 2014 22:58 Penev wrote: What's wrong with Winter (don't know either way, never watched him)?
Dunno, I guess he just isn't popular. Anyways, I don't understand why Take has to invite dedicated casters in the first place. Just give me three well-articulated professionals, I can listen to them arguing the metagame all day.
On November 12 2014 22:58 Penev wrote: What's wrong with Winter (don't know either way, never watched him)?
Dunno, I guess he just isn't popular. Anyways, I don't understand why Take has to invite dedicated casters in the first place. Just give me three well-articulated professionals, I can listen to them arguing the metagame all day.
In an german interview with Take, he said that Winter does all his things (casting & interviews) at HSC X for free and Take only have to pay 50% of flight cost. (I dont know who pays his accommodation). Take said, this "offer" is definitely worth a try. Everyone knows that Take always tried some "up and comer" guys come to HSC events.
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