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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3390 Posts
October 04 2014 11:37 GMT
#3801
That's it, I'm not watching any more Soo finals!

Don't believe that. Maybe it's jerkish, but somehow I enjoy seeing him lose every finals.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 04 2014 11:38 GMT
#3802
Jaedong is suffering in other ways tho. I think anyone who obtains the points necessary deserves it.

Travelling that much must be a bitch.
The Bomber boy
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
October 04 2014 11:38 GMT
#3803
Three former STX Soul players humiliated and annihilated SKT veteran (Z)soO. Such a heartbreaking scenario cementing the title "King of Kongs".
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 11:38 GMT
#3804
On October 04 2014 20:34 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:24 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:59 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:58 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:53 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 sharkie wrote:
I know that 2rax is not unbeatable but can people post recent videos of holding 2rax WITHOUT the terran screwing up?

I just need to be reminded how to beat it


help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life


I said without terran screwing up...

Pull 4 drones, make sure none of them die, send 2 to make spine crawlers/3 if they pull scvs make a queen and some lings don't be afraid to sac the hatch in exchange for a massive flood of lings to instantly win the game, dont be afraid to run lings past to cut off the marines being made


ok what if the terran invests just enough to kill the hatch and then goes full eco mode like forgg did vs snute in their series?

Zerg will have no drones, only 1 hatch, tons of lings and terran goes 3cc behind supply depot wall?

Define just enough, like did he make 4 marines and float his racks back to his base or what?




forgg made like 8marines and kept pumping scvs back at home all the time

and Snute defended just like you said he should

Well I can say that going hatch drone drone pool is exactly the sort of thing 2 rax will catch out. Commentators said snute likes to defend by saccing the natural and flooding his opponent, and forgg was prepared for it. Idk if thats true or not, but I do not recommend making 2 drones before spawning pool.

If you're still reading this, it was a 12/13 rax which is almost countered by hatch first -> immediate pool
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 04 2014 11:38 GMT
#3805
Wasn't here this morning, couldn't watch finals. I'm guessing VODs won't be uploaded for free users? I don't care about results, just want to watch the games. Otherwise, it's funny reading pages 100-110 in this thread while knowing the final score.
maru lover forever
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 04 2014 11:38 GMT
#3806
JD deserves because that's the way the system works. The system is broken, of course, but that's not his fault.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 04 2014 11:39 GMT
#3807
On October 04 2014 20:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:26 brickrd wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:25 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:24 brickrd wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:23 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:20 brickrd wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:19 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:18 brickrd wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:18 The_Templar wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:17 brickrd wrote:
[quote]
if you think second place at the highest level of competition is bad or a curse then you just have a stupid mindset

When the pressure gets to you, over and over, in the same way, it does have a negative effect on you :\

if you have a poor competitive mindset, sure


No, if you lose five finals in a row while being the best player in the world for at least 2 of them, it hurts you no matter what. There is no competitor who wouldn't be hurt by that.

nah


Do you compete in anything yourself? I feel like there is often a disconnect between people who watch pro players lose in high-stakes situations that think "Well, at least he got there! He should be happy!" and the competitors themselves. Losing is tough, in finals (repeatedly) especially so.

if you cant handle losing you have an emotional problem you should fix


So you don't, then.

making assumptions about my life is not how you debate a point, that's ad hominem

but since youre so insistent, yes, i play both video games and real sports competitively


It's definitely relevant in this case since you display a lack of understanding of how someone would react to losing in high-stakes situations like GSL finals where they want nothing more to win, and are expected to win.

nah. it's completely possible to be a mature adult about losing at any level of competition in anything. feel free to keep thinking what you think though
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 04 2014 11:39 GMT
#3808
On October 04 2014 20:38 Incognoto wrote:
Wasn't here this morning, couldn't watch finals. I'm guessing VODs won't be uploaded for free users? I don't care about results, just want to watch the games. Otherwise, it's funny reading pages 100-110 in this thread while knowing the final score.

I think O'gaming casts this tonight at 20:00 (not sure).
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18413 Posts
October 04 2014 11:39 GMT
#3809
On October 04 2014 20:38 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:34 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:24 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:59 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:58 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:53 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 sharkie wrote:
I know that 2rax is not unbeatable but can people post recent videos of holding 2rax WITHOUT the terran screwing up?

I just need to be reminded how to beat it


help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life


I said without terran screwing up...

Pull 4 drones, make sure none of them die, send 2 to make spine crawlers/3 if they pull scvs make a queen and some lings don't be afraid to sac the hatch in exchange for a massive flood of lings to instantly win the game, dont be afraid to run lings past to cut off the marines being made


ok what if the terran invests just enough to kill the hatch and then goes full eco mode like forgg did vs snute in their series?

Zerg will have no drones, only 1 hatch, tons of lings and terran goes 3cc behind supply depot wall?

Define just enough, like did he make 4 marines and float his racks back to his base or what?


http://youtu.be/wpYAcGwIeJ0?t=27m41s

forgg made like 8marines and kept pumping scvs back at home all the time

and Snute defended just like you said he should

Well I can say that going hatch drone drone pool is exactly the sort of thing 2 rax will catch out. Commentators said snute likes to defend by saccing the natural and flooding his opponent, and forgg was prepared for it. Idk if thats true or not, but I do not recommend making 2 drones before spawning pool.

If you're still reading this, it was a 12/13 rax which is almost countered by hatch first -> immediate pool


ok so forgg just hard countered snute like crazy?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 04 2014 11:41 GMT
#3810
On October 04 2014 20:39 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:38 Incognoto wrote:
Wasn't here this morning, couldn't watch finals. I'm guessing VODs won't be uploaded for free users? I don't care about results, just want to watch the games. Otherwise, it's funny reading pages 100-110 in this thread while knowing the final score.

I think O'gaming casts this tonight at 20:00 (not sure).


Ooh, thanks for the pipe. Will probably watch tonight then.
maru lover forever
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 04 2014 11:41 GMT
#3811
On October 04 2014 20:37 ejozl wrote:
Show nested quote +
That's it, I'm not watching any more Soo finals!

Don't believe that. Maybe it's jerkish, but somehow I enjoy seeing him lose every finals.

Honestly I just want to see every soo finals just to see when it will finally stop. It just has to
Glorious SEA doto
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 11:41 GMT
#3812
On October 04 2014 20:39 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:38 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:34 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:24 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:59 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:58 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:53 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
[quote]

help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life


I said without terran screwing up...

Pull 4 drones, make sure none of them die, send 2 to make spine crawlers/3 if they pull scvs make a queen and some lings don't be afraid to sac the hatch in exchange for a massive flood of lings to instantly win the game, dont be afraid to run lings past to cut off the marines being made


ok what if the terran invests just enough to kill the hatch and then goes full eco mode like forgg did vs snute in their series?

Zerg will have no drones, only 1 hatch, tons of lings and terran goes 3cc behind supply depot wall?

Define just enough, like did he make 4 marines and float his racks back to his base or what?


http://youtu.be/wpYAcGwIeJ0?t=27m41s

forgg made like 8marines and kept pumping scvs back at home all the time

and Snute defended just like you said he should

Well I can say that going hatch drone drone pool is exactly the sort of thing 2 rax will catch out. Commentators said snute likes to defend by saccing the natural and flooding his opponent, and forgg was prepared for it. Idk if thats true or not, but I do not recommend making 2 drones before spawning pool.

If you're still reading this, it was a 12/13 rax which is almost countered by hatch first -> immediate pool


ok so forgg just hard countered snute like crazy?

Snute got metagamed for sure
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 04 2014 11:41 GMT
#3813
VODs are up in the OP
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 11:41 GMT
#3814
On October 04 2014 20:38 negativedge wrote:
JD deserves because that's the way the system works. The system is broken, of course, but that's not his fault.

That's not what deserves means in this context though at all.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 04 2014 11:42 GMT
#3815
How close did I get?

[10:39:53] Olli: I feel like it's gonna be awful
[10:40:02] Olli: but people will hype it anyway because TvZ circlejerk
[10:40:12] Olli: there'll be like one good game
[10:40:23] Olli: and people will call it the best game of the year
[10:44:32] Olli: probably gonna be at least one roach/bane or 1/1 speed roach all in
[10:44:36] Olli: and at least one 2rax
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
October 04 2014 11:43 GMT
#3816
On October 04 2014 20:41 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:38 negativedge wrote:
JD deserves because that's the way the system works. The system is broken, of course, but that's not his fault.

That's not what deserves means in this context though at all.

But people shouldn't blame him (or anyone) for a system
I Protoss winner, could it be?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 04 2014 11:43 GMT
#3817
On October 04 2014 20:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
How close did I get?

[10:39:53] Olli: I feel like it's gonna be awful
[10:40:02] Olli: but people will hype it anyway because TvZ circlejerk
[10:40:12] Olli: there'll be like one good game
[10:40:23] Olli: and people will call it the best game of the year
[10:44:32] Olli: probably gonna be at least one roach/bane or 1/1 speed roach all in
[10:44:36] Olli: and at least one 2rax

Daring predictions
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
October 04 2014 11:45 GMT
#3818
We should write a song based on "A boy named Sue" called "A Zerg named soO" because, today even more than the day before, "Life ain't easy for a Zerg named soO".
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
October 04 2014 11:46 GMT
#3819
New king of silver?
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 11:48:03
October 04 2014 11:47 GMT
#3820
On October 04 2014 20:43 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
How close did I get?

[10:39:53] Olli: I feel like it's gonna be awful
[10:40:02] Olli: but people will hype it anyway because TvZ circlejerk
[10:40:12] Olli: there'll be like one good game
[10:40:23] Olli: and people will call it the best game of the year
[10:44:32] Olli: probably gonna be at least one roach/bane or 1/1 speed roach all in
[10:44:36] Olli: and at least one 2rax

Daring predictions


Even I was hoping for something better D:
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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