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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 04 2014 20:15 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 20:12 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2014 20:11 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 20:08 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2014 20:07 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 20:04 vjcamarena wrote:On October 04 2014 20:01 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 19:58 TheDwf wrote:On October 04 2014 19:57 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 19:43 Faefae wrote:
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You should watch more sc ! I watch SPL,WCS,IEM,DH,ASUS,Everything else It's just that it's a really overpowered strategy that people don't really whine about because terrans dont overuse it like protoss did blink all ins. Don't you realize how much of a contradiction this sentence is? No why is it? It has like a 100% winrate people know what to do against it but the thing is theres nothing you can really do against it at best you save your natural while the terran has their natural and 3rd coming or you lose your natural and you're literally dead then and there but people keep on playing. If a blink allin happened you knew what to do but you lost anyways. It's the same here. Everyone whined about blink allins and their success rate but noone does so with 2rax due to the infrequency of it. Which makes it seem as not overpowered. Let's spell this out for you. This guys are professionals. The game is how they make their living. If something is strong, they use it over and over again (see broodlord infestor, even though several zergs said they hated it!). If people dont 2Rax often, its because it isnt that great all the time. It's great as a surprise tactic. No more, no less. I know that I'm just sick of the disgusting hypocrisy this community shows This isn't hypocrisy, this is you being wrong. A well-executed 2rax is strong, but it's not unbeatable or anything close to unbeatable. The hypocrisy about blink allins being unbeatable and everyone whining about it and now nobody whines about 2rax when it's just as strong as a blink allin and i hate it The comparison isn't fair at all because the strength of blink was present throughout early- and midgames, whereas the 2rax can only be used as an opener. Blink builds had a million variants and uses on all maps, the same isn't true for 2rax. Lame shit is lame shit and Sc2 would be a lot better without it.
The blink builds that won everything no longer work as well, do they?
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On October 04 2014 20:12 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 20:11 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 20:08 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2014 20:07 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 20:04 vjcamarena wrote:On October 04 2014 20:01 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 19:58 TheDwf wrote:On October 04 2014 19:57 Varroth wrote:On October 04 2014 19:43 Faefae wrote:On October 04 2014 19:41 Varroth wrote:
I swear to god it's impossible to stop a 2rax... I literally havn't seen a terran fail a 2rax since the beginning of 2014... You should watch more sc ! I watch SPL,WCS,IEM,DH,ASUS,Everything else It's just that it's a really overpowered strategy that people don't really whine about because terrans dont overuse it like protoss did blink all ins. Don't you realize how much of a contradiction this sentence is? No why is it? It has like a 100% winrate people know what to do against it but the thing is theres nothing you can really do against it at best you save your natural while the terran has their natural and 3rd coming or you lose your natural and you're literally dead then and there but people keep on playing. If a blink allin happened you knew what to do but you lost anyways. It's the same here. Everyone whined about blink allins and their success rate but noone does so with 2rax due to the infrequency of it. Which makes it seem as not overpowered. Let's spell this out for you. This guys are professionals. The game is how they make their living. If something is strong, they use it over and over again (see broodlord infestor, even though several zergs said they hated it!). If people dont 2Rax often, its because it isnt that great all the time. It's great as a surprise tactic. No more, no less. I know that I'm just sick of the disgusting hypocrisy this community shows This isn't hypocrisy, this is you being wrong. A well-executed 2rax is strong, but it's not unbeatable or anything close to unbeatable. The hypocrisy about blink allins being unbeatable and everyone whining about it and now nobody whines about 2rax when it's just as strong as a blink allin and i hate it The comparison isn't fair at all because the strength of blink was present throughout early- and midgames, whereas the 2rax can only be used as an opener. Blink builds had a million variants and uses on all maps, the same isn't true for 2rax.
Also, dude, Blink changed significantly throughout SC2, most clearly when Protoss got high ground vision earlier with the Mothership Core. A part of the whining was us terrans taking a while to learn how to defend it in a new context. (Apart from maps obv)
There's been no equivalent buffs to the 2Rax, ever. The current map pool is favored towards terran, sure, but Nestea, as has already been pointed out, held this on the most ridiculous maps, so why would it be OP now?
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On October 04 2014 20:17 Seeker wrote:
I voted for soO again.
FML!
Thanks a lot man. You ruin livessssssss
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On October 04 2014 20:17 jojos11 wrote:
terrible series.felt sorry for the fans at the studio
I feel sorry for you for not being able to enjoy all games SC2 has to offer.
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On October 04 2014 20:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 20:14 brickrd wrote:On October 04 2014 20:12 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
I just don't belive anyone can have 2nd place 4 times in a row, that's just so frustrating and unfair, how he's going to motivate himself? how about "i outperformed 99% of the rest of my league four times in a row"? And u're aiming for the very top, during year and 3 months I belive. And u lost ur first foreigner tournament in finals straight forward, what if u are cursed forever to be second?
If he didn't have a strong mentality he wouldn't even be here that many times. I'm sure will see him in the finals again soOn
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On October 04 2014 20:18 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 20:17 brickrd wrote:On October 04 2014 20:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On October 04 2014 20:14 brickrd wrote:On October 04 2014 20:12 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
I just don't belive anyone can have 2nd place 4 times in a row, that's just so frustrating and unfair, how he's going to motivate himself? how about "i outperformed 99% of the rest of my league four times in a row"? And u're aiming for the very top, during year and 3 months I belive. And u lost ur first foreigner tournament in finals straight forward, what if u are cursed forever to be second? if you think second place at the highest level of competition is bad or a curse then you just have a stupid mindset When the pressure gets to you, over and over, in the same way, it does have a negative effect on you :\
if you have a poor competitive mindset, sure
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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I feel bad for soO. I hope he wins Blizzcon to make this his year. I really do.
In my eyes it already is, but that would make it undeniable.
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Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?
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Anyways Inno better destroy at Blizzcon!!!
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On October 04 2014 20:16 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 20:15 REyeM wrote:On October 04 2014 20:14 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2014 20:13 REyeM wrote:
It's amazing that TL warns people for writing "kappa" and ignoring suicide jokes. Take moderation issues to Website Feedback instead of derailing this thread. SSed this. What does that mean?
I probably should not be surprised by your reaction, seems that many people generally take suicide subject rather lightly considering the fact that it does not happen as often.
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On October 04 2014 20:17 Seeker wrote:
I voted for soO again.
FML!
Me too. Lol
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he just has to be numb right now. there's nothing worse than being used to losing
I think part of it is that zerg has been at a disadvantage in the matchups he's played in all of the finals. I'm not balance whining, but it some ways that makes it even more amazing that he was able to make so many finals in a row.
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man soO is fidgeting on stage and everything....he wants to be anywhere but there right now.
holy fuck I'm so sad
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soO's like: "I don't want to be here. I want to go home. FML." 
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your Country52797 Posts
On October 04 2014 20:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?
No. It depends on player performances in WCS EU and AM I think.
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INno gives the best interviews.
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soo _cannot_ wait to get off the stage
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 04 2014 20:18 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 20:18 The_Templar wrote:On October 04 2014 20:17 brickrd wrote:On October 04 2014 20:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On October 04 2014 20:14 brickrd wrote:On October 04 2014 20:12 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
I just don't belive anyone can have 2nd place 4 times in a row, that's just so frustrating and unfair, how he's going to motivate himself? how about "i outperformed 99% of the rest of my league four times in a row"? And u're aiming for the very top, during year and 3 months I belive. And u lost ur first foreigner tournament in finals straight forward, what if u are cursed forever to be second? if you think second place at the highest level of competition is bad or a curse then you just have a stupid mindset When the pressure gets to you, over and over, in the same way, it does have a negative effect on you :\ if you have a poor competitive mindset, sure
No, if you lose five finals in a row while being the best player in the world for at least 2 of them, it hurts you no matter what. There is no competitor who wouldn't be hurt by that.
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On October 04 2014 20:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?
100%
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