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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 11:21:32
October 04 2014 11:20 GMT
#3661
On October 04 2014 20:18 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:15 Hider wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:12 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:11 Varroth wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:08 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:07 Varroth wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:04 vjcamarena wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:01 Varroth wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:58 TheDwf wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:57 Varroth wrote:
[quote]

I watch SPL,WCS,IEM,DH,ASUS,Everything else It's just that it's a really overpowered strategy that people don't really whine about because terrans dont overuse it like protoss did blink all ins.

Don't you realize how much of a contradiction this sentence is?


No why is it? It has like a 100% winrate people know what to do against it but the thing is theres nothing you can really do against it at best you save your natural while the terran has their natural and 3rd coming or you lose your natural and you're literally dead then and there but people keep on playing. If a blink allin happened you knew what to do but you lost anyways. It's the same here. Everyone whined about blink allins and their success rate but noone does so with 2rax due to the infrequency of it. Which makes it seem as not overpowered.

Let's spell this out for you.
This guys are professionals. The game is how they make their living. If something is strong, they use it over and over again (see broodlord infestor, even though several zergs said they hated it!).

If people dont 2Rax often, its because it isnt that great all the time. It's great as a surprise tactic. No more, no less.


I know that I'm just sick of the disgusting hypocrisy this community shows


This isn't hypocrisy, this is you being wrong. A well-executed 2rax is strong, but it's not unbeatable or anything close to unbeatable.


The hypocrisy about blink allins being unbeatable and everyone whining about it and now nobody whines about 2rax when it's just as strong as a blink allin and i hate it


The comparison isn't fair at all because the strength of blink was present throughout early- and midgames, whereas the 2rax can only be used as an opener. Blink builds had a million variants and uses on all maps, the same isn't true for 2rax.


Lame !@#$%^&* is lame !@#$%^&* and Sc2 would be a lot better without it.


The blink builds that won everything no longer work as well, do they?


At least not at pro level, but it is (was) comparable to 2-rax because it's boring to play against and boring to watch. Early game aggression is great, but it needs to be about low risk/low reward instead of "one tiny mistake into gg".

The problem with 2 rax, however, is that its extremely difficult to nerf, while it was alot easier to change maps a bit and nerf Msc to fix blink all ins.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 04 2014 11:20 GMT
#3662
On October 04 2014 20:19 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?

No. It depends on player performances in WCS EU and AM I think.

no he is, other players fall out depending on WCS I thought.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
October 04 2014 11:20 GMT
#3663
On October 04 2014 20:11 fezvez wrote:
OK, last game was nearly worth the huge amount of time lost tonight

No it wasn't, let's be real.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 04 2014 11:20 GMT
#3664
FINALLY INNO WITH THE GSL TROPHY
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 04 2014 11:20 GMT
#3665
On October 04 2014 20:20 eurTsItniH wrote:
If pigbaby wins WCS AM and Bunny wins WCS EU, Innovation won't go to Blizzcon right?

Something like that.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 11:22:29
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3666
soO is like something out of Shakespeare, so tragic... His macro is really quite awesome to see
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3667
LMAO the studio is WAY too little, people are watching from the entrance.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 11:22:13
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3668
On October 04 2014 20:20 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:19 fezvez wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?


100%


No, Something like 91%.

This happens
~ 3.21 % of the time
ForGG gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier and
Scarlett gets 1st in WCS AM S3 Premier
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 92.07 % to ~ 0 %

This happens
~ 1.64 % of the time
Bunny gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier and
Scarlett gets 1st in WCS AM S3 Premier
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 92.07 % to ~ 0 %

This happens
~ 1.15 % of the time
Pigbaby gets 1st in WCS AM S3 Premier and
ForGG gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 92.07 % to ~ 0 %

A bunch of similar situations. Basically the wrong two people have to win WCS EU/AM- ForGG/Bunny and Scarlett/Pigbaby/HerO.
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3669
Now the kissing scene - the most action SC2 players get in a while. Or want.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3670
On October 04 2014 20:18 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:15 REyeM wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:14 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:13 REyeM wrote:
It's amazing that TL warns people for writing "kappa" and ignoring suicide jokes.


Take moderation issues to Website Feedback instead of derailing this thread.


SSed this.


What does that mean?


I probably should not be surprised by your reaction, seems that many people generally take suicide subject rather lightly considering the fact that it does not happen as often.


We have an established policy against Twitch memes on TL which we enforce consistently. We do not have a policy against puns that make fun of the fact that soO (soOicide) has it really tough, and we do not moderate it consistently unless we see that the post making the joke is serious. With that said, if you have any more questions about moderation please don't use this thread for them. Feel free to PM me.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3671
On October 04 2014 20:20 negativedge wrote:
on the plus side, it sure will be a story if soO can manage to win blizzcon

He won't, he will be second and first will be whoever manages to get in the finals with him.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3672
I really hope to see soO in the next finals too. Always worried getting second once again will break him, but he's proven us all wrong so many times now. He's going to win soon.
Flash | Mvp
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3673
poor soo
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3674
And amazingly Artosis was RIGHT. And the world is on its ass.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3675
On October 04 2014 20:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:20 opisska wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:19 fezvez wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?


100%


No, Something like 91%.

This happens
~ 3.21 % of the time
ForGG gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier and
Scarlett gets 1st in WCS AM S3 Premier
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 92.07 % to ~ 0 %

This happens
~ 1.64 % of the time
Bunny gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier and
Scarlett gets 1st in WCS AM S3 Premier
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 92.07 % to ~ 0 %

This happens
~ 1.15 % of the time
Pigbaby gets 1st in WCS AM S3 Premier and
ForGG gets 1st in WCS EU S3 Premier
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances
from ~ 92.07 % to ~ 0 %

A bunch of similar situations. Basically the wrong two people have to win WCS EU/AM.

Guess I am rooting against them all.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3676
Not funny Artosis.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3677
Passionstone.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3678
On October 04 2014 20:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:19 The_Templar wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
Is Innovation 100% going to Blizzcon now?

No. It depends on player performances in WCS EU and AM I think.

no he is, other players fall out depending on WCS I thought.

He's 15th. If Scarlett or Pigbaby or someone wins WCS AM and someone wins WCS EU to push them into top 16, but I'm not sure who is left to do that other than Bunny.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3679
How much money did he won?
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#3680
HE COULDNT RESIST THAT LONG

HE HAD TO RESTORE HIS PASSION WITH PASSIONSTONE
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
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