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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 10 2014 01:24 GMT
#821
i just realized who qxc looks like

he looks like freaking Bert
TL+ Member
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#822
On September 10 2014 10:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:21 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:17 Dodgin wrote:
I don't understand how Chinese players aren't as good as Korean players. Their scene is pretty much region locked and they've had years and years to develop their ambition only competing between each other and not having to face players from outside their local scene. The invigoration they receive from knowing that they have a real shot at winning their local event should push them to become as good as players that are competing in the GSL.

The meta still lags some.

Not to mention they have no good Terrans.

XY is probably the top of things, but it isn't quite as bad as SEA in terms of racial bias

Loner used to be the best but idk anymore

yeah but, he has kind of gone dark.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#823
On September 10 2014 10:21 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:18 Wintex wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:15 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:13 Wasaru wrote:
you don't have to open the EPM tab to know which is the faster player, since it influences so many aspects of play. Even with Hyun vs Bunny, in which Hyun lost, it's easy to tell who the faster player is simply from the creep spread and army movement.

... thats the entire debate dude. catz and targa said they dont think people can tell, lots of people have already argued it to death, the point being made here is an actual experiment beyond people saying "well im 100% sure that i can tell!" would be interesting

Exactly. And that's why I insist on controlling as much of the actions as possible by making it a video with parts of games shown, with a questionnaire to go with it. You remove more of the RNG this way. It makes it harder to call it a sham and invalidate the data.

tbh i just dont think anyone is going to do that. if you assembled the testers and subjects and actually made it happen with academic legitimacy that would be amazing but id rather hear about a half-valid experiment that actually occurs than a totally valid experiment that no one bothers doing

Yeah I understand. I am just flinging out ideas, hoping some great soul will try it. All it requires is good questions, a few games, windows movie maker and a signup period with a random picker from the ones that sign up.
The Bomber boy
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#824
[image loading]
On September 10 2014 10:24 brickrd wrote:
i just realized who qxc looks like

he looks like freaking Bert

stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 01:25:50
September 10 2014 01:25 GMT
#825
On September 10 2014 10:24 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:18 Wintex wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:15 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:13 Wasaru wrote:
you don't have to open the EPM tab to know which is the faster player, since it influences so many aspects of play. Even with Hyun vs Bunny, in which Hyun lost, it's easy to tell who the faster player is simply from the creep spread and army movement.

... thats the entire debate dude. catz and targa said they dont think people can tell, lots of people have already argued it to death, the point being made here is an actual experiment beyond people saying "well im 100% sure that i can tell!" would be interesting

Exactly. And that's why I insist on controlling as much of the actions as possible by making it a video with parts of games shown, with a questionnaire to go with it. You remove more of the RNG this way. It makes it harder to call it a sham and invalidate the data.

The problem with chopping and slicing up games is that sometimes the "tell" would be revealed through the entire game.

But I see what you mean, like you can show two scenes of MC and someone else doing a set of forcefields, and ask who is who.


Bisu is the guy who FF'd off the spines from his own zealots. Elfi is the guy who let the lings get away.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 10 2014 01:26 GMT
#826
I remember browsing liquipedia like a nerd and SEA/CN/TW have more teams than they have notable pro terrans o-o
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 10 2014 01:26 GMT
#827
On September 10 2014 10:24 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:18 Wintex wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:15 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:13 Wasaru wrote:
you don't have to open the EPM tab to know which is the faster player, since it influences so many aspects of play. Even with Hyun vs Bunny, in which Hyun lost, it's easy to tell who the faster player is simply from the creep spread and army movement.

... thats the entire debate dude. catz and targa said they dont think people can tell, lots of people have already argued it to death, the point being made here is an actual experiment beyond people saying "well im 100% sure that i can tell!" would be interesting

Exactly. And that's why I insist on controlling as much of the actions as possible by making it a video with parts of games shown, with a questionnaire to go with it. You remove more of the RNG this way. It makes it harder to call it a sham and invalidate the data.

The problem with chopping and slicing up games is that sometimes the "tell" would be revealed through the entire game.

But I see what you mean, like you can show two scenes of MC and someone else doing a set of forcefields, and ask who is who.

+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +


hehehe
The Bomber boy
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:26 GMT
#828
On September 10 2014 10:26 GTPGlitch wrote:
I remember browsing liquipedia like a nerd and SEA/CN/TW have more teams than they have notable pro terrans o-o

Good Terran are a gem, have been for many years now.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 10 2014 01:27 GMT
#829
oh god his smile *swoon*
The Bomber boy
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 10 2014 01:29 GMT
#830
On September 10 2014 10:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:21 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:17 Dodgin wrote:
I don't understand how Chinese players aren't as good as Korean players. Their scene is pretty much region locked and they've had years and years to develop their ambition only competing between each other and not having to face players from outside their local scene. The invigoration they receive from knowing that they have a real shot at winning their local event should push them to become as good as players that are competing in the GSL.

The meta still lags some.

Not to mention they have no good Terrans.

XY is probably the top of things, but it isn't quite as bad as SEA in terms of racial bias


SEA has some decent Terrans and a big Protoss infusion lately. Still a good 65-70% Z, but it's getting there.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:29 GMT
#831
On September 10 2014 10:27 Wintex wrote:
oh god his smile *swoon*

Terran broner going on here.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2014 01:30 GMT
#832
On September 10 2014 10:29 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:27 Wintex wrote:
oh god his smile *swoon*

Terran broner going on here.

You could see that thing through those baggy Prime pants it is so big
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:30 GMT
#833
On September 10 2014 10:29 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:23 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:21 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:17 Dodgin wrote:
I don't understand how Chinese players aren't as good as Korean players. Their scene is pretty much region locked and they've had years and years to develop their ambition only competing between each other and not having to face players from outside their local scene. The invigoration they receive from knowing that they have a real shot at winning their local event should push them to become as good as players that are competing in the GSL.

The meta still lags some.

Not to mention they have no good Terrans.

XY is probably the top of things, but it isn't quite as bad as SEA in terms of racial bias


SEA has some decent Terrans and a big Protoss infusion lately. Still a good 65-70% Z, but it's getting there.

In my head, it will always be all Z.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:30 GMT
#834
On September 10 2014 10:30 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:29 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:27 Wintex wrote:
oh god his smile *swoon*

Terran broner going on here.

You could see that thing through those baggy Prime pants it is so big

pretty much.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 10 2014 01:31 GMT
#835
On September 10 2014 10:30 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:29 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:27 Wintex wrote:
oh god his smile *swoon*

Terran broner going on here.

You could see that thing through those baggy Prime pants it is so big

im using my robe, not my prime pants
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 10 2014 01:32 GMT
#836
Bomber casts greedisgood 999999
The Bomber boy
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2014 01:34 GMT
#837
On September 10 2014 10:31 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:30 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:29 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 10 2014 10:27 Wintex wrote:
oh god his smile *swoon*

Terran broner going on here.

You could see that thing through those baggy Prime pants it is so big

im using my robe, not my prime pants

Wow put that thing away
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 10 2014 01:34 GMT
#838
On September 10 2014 10:32 Wintex wrote:
Bomber casts greedisgood 999999

He found that weapon?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 10 2014 01:34 GMT
#839
its not 1/1 roach just because of the gasless opener, he specifically went gasless because of the drone scout. for a terran matchup im surprised how off the reads by qxc and nathanias are for this game
TL+ Member
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 10 2014 01:34 GMT
#840
On September 10 2014 10:34 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 10:32 Wintex wrote:
Bomber casts greedisgood 999999

He found that weapon?

whosyourdaddy
The Bomber boy
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