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Well, if Check winds up actually making the Ro8, I can at least concentrate on my work during his matches, since I have to work during Championship Weekend now (And I was planning on going in person again  )
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On September 10 2014 09:47 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:44 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On September 10 2014 09:37 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:36 Dodgin wrote:On September 10 2014 09:35 Darkhorse wrote:
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This is looking like soO's season to win finally I wouldn't be so sure, soO always beats his team mates. He better hope he can either beat Maru in the winner's match or he gets a rematch with Rain instead of Zest I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go It would have to be a blind experiment. If people knew what we were looking for they would really try to see the differences in play and if you look hard enough anyone can figure it out isnt that the whole debate though? or is there supposed to be some difference between "looking hard" and watching a game "normally"? as long as you handpicked foreigner games that use builds and styles that are common in the korean meta i think it would be fine
I would be against making foreigners play a korean style or cherrypicking games where they use korean shit.
You need a healthy mix of games etc.
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On September 10 2014 09:48 stefan16 wrote:
dumb question: do they start group C first so they can play the group of death (B) last?
Scheduling with JD and HerO in China, so they moved the groups.
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On September 10 2014 09:44 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On September 10 2014 09:37 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:36 Dodgin wrote:On September 10 2014 09:35 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:35 Dodgin wrote:
so sad that rain forgot to take a 4th base in this game
gg This is looking like soO's season to win finally I wouldn't be so sure, soO always beats his team mates. He better hope he can either beat Maru in the winner's match or he gets a rematch with Rain instead of Zest I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go Yeah I suppose that's true. I guess CatZ does have a point though where there are still some sub par games in Code S where you probably wouldn't be able to differentiate but I also think there's a much higher peak in game quality.
i tend to agree on the peaks, i think you see the difference in tiny micro details and little flourishes. a lot of the time at foreigner level when the casters are saying "beautiful play by huk" its often the other guy messing up too, but in korean games it seems like the "beautiful plays" are against someone who's actually defending well. on the other hand in a boring macro game with lots of standard moveouts and engagements it would probably be a tougher call
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Wow, that's an awesome keyboard Jim has.
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On September 10 2014 09:48 stefan16 wrote:
dumb question: do they start group C first so they can play the group of death (B) last?
Jaedong and HerO needed rescheduling because they played in WEC in China.
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Jim's keyboard looks like candy buttons.
![[image loading]](http://monkeyblogmonkeydo.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/candy-buttons.jpg)
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nah, it makes me think about ponies bro
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On September 10 2014 09:49 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:47 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:44 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On September 10 2014 09:37 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:36 Dodgin wrote:
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I wouldn't be so sure, soO always beats his team mates. He better hope he can either beat Maru in the winner's match or he gets a rematch with Rain instead of Zest I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go It would have to be a blind experiment. If people knew what we were looking for they would really try to see the differences in play and if you look hard enough anyone can figure it out isnt that the whole debate though? or is there supposed to be some difference between "looking hard" and watching a game "normally"? as long as you handpicked foreigner games that use builds and styles that are common in the korean meta i think it would be fine I would be against making foreigners play a korean style or cherrypicking games where they use korean shit. You need a healthy mix of games etc.
as long as all the games fall under a generally accepted range of pro foreigner level of play im not sure how handpicking the data would harm the experiment. the point of handpicking would be to avoid "cheating" by knowing the korean meta and just playing the odds that it's a "foreign style"
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On September 10 2014 09:50 ThomasjServo wrote:Jim's keyboard looks like candy buttons.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EOOnw.jpg)
TaeJa had one of these iirc.
Super cool.
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On September 10 2014 09:51 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:50 ThomasjServo wrote:Jim's keyboard looks like candy buttons. TaeJa had one of these iirc. Super cool.
Not my cup of tea, but I am a dial tone as far as keyboards are concerned. With my Leopold, and Noppoo.
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Jim looks like ToD's Chinese younger brother.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 10 2014 09:51 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:49 Wintex wrote:On September 10 2014 09:47 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:44 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On September 10 2014 09:37 Darkhorse wrote:
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He better hope he can either beat Maru in the winner's match or he gets a rematch with Rain instead of Zest I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go It would have to be a blind experiment. If people knew what we were looking for they would really try to see the differences in play and if you look hard enough anyone can figure it out isnt that the whole debate though? or is there supposed to be some difference between "looking hard" and watching a game "normally"? as long as you handpicked foreigner games that use builds and styles that are common in the korean meta i think it would be fine I would be against making foreigners play a korean style or cherrypicking games where they use korean shit. You need a healthy mix of games etc. as long as all the games fall under a generally accepted range of pro foreigner level of play im not sure how handpicking the data would harm the experiment. the point of handpicking would be to avoid "cheating" by knowing the korean meta and just playing the odds that it's a "foreign style"
You can just play the odds by predicting the winner being Korean.
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Well, Rotterdam and QXC made some valid points about PvP and map ban...
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On September 10 2014 09:53 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:51 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:49 Wintex wrote:On September 10 2014 09:47 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:44 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go It would have to be a blind experiment. If people knew what we were looking for they would really try to see the differences in play and if you look hard enough anyone can figure it out isnt that the whole debate though? or is there supposed to be some difference between "looking hard" and watching a game "normally"? as long as you handpicked foreigner games that use builds and styles that are common in the korean meta i think it would be fine I would be against making foreigners play a korean style or cherrypicking games where they use korean shit. You need a healthy mix of games etc. as long as all the games fall under a generally accepted range of pro foreigner level of play im not sure how handpicking the data would harm the experiment. the point of handpicking would be to avoid "cheating" by knowing the korean meta and just playing the odds that it's a "foreign style" You can just play the odds by predicting the winner being Korean.
maybe we're talking about different things here but i'm talking about an experiment where viewers compare fvf to kvk, not watch a kvf game and guess who is who
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There is something about QXC's blazer that makes his head look really tiny, like he is wearing a jacket way to big for him.
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i truly dont mean this in a hurtful way but jim kind of looks like a frog
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United States23455 Posts
On September 10 2014 09:53 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:51 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:49 Wintex wrote:On September 10 2014 09:47 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:44 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go It would have to be a blind experiment. If people knew what we were looking for they would really try to see the differences in play and if you look hard enough anyone can figure it out isnt that the whole debate though? or is there supposed to be some difference between "looking hard" and watching a game "normally"? as long as you handpicked foreigner games that use builds and styles that are common in the korean meta i think it would be fine I would be against making foreigners play a korean style or cherrypicking games where they use korean shit. You need a healthy mix of games etc. as long as all the games fall under a generally accepted range of pro foreigner level of play im not sure how handpicking the data would harm the experiment. the point of handpicking would be to avoid "cheating" by knowing the korean meta and just playing the odds that it's a "foreign style" You can just play the odds by predicting the winner being Korean.
But surely that won't work! North American players are just as talented and hard working!
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On September 10 2014 09:51 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 09:49 Wintex wrote:On September 10 2014 09:47 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:44 Darkhorse wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:42 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:41 brickrd wrote:On September 10 2014 09:40 Shellshock wrote:On September 10 2014 09:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On September 10 2014 09:37 Darkhorse wrote:
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He better hope he can either beat Maru in the winner's match or he gets a rematch with Rain instead of Zest I'm confused why are we pretnding that this is a GSL group cause we were told that we are unable to differentiate between code s and high level foreigner play unless we are kr gm this debate is becoming a meme. someone really needs to just run an experiment already I dont think it has as much potential as the 10x one though. people will probably forget about it in a week eh i think it has potential because the whole korean vs foreigner infrastructure wcs points blahblahblahblah thing already has legs of its own but also im curious about how the experiment would go It would have to be a blind experiment. If people knew what we were looking for they would really try to see the differences in play and if you look hard enough anyone can figure it out isnt that the whole debate though? or is there supposed to be some difference between "looking hard" and watching a game "normally"? as long as you handpicked foreigner games that use builds and styles that are common in the korean meta i think it would be fine I would be against making foreigners play a korean style or cherrypicking games where they use korean shit. You need a healthy mix of games etc. as long as all the games fall under a generally accepted range of pro foreigner level of play im not sure how handpicking the data would harm the experiment. the point of handpicking would be to avoid "cheating" by knowing the korean meta and just playing the odds that it's a "foreign style"
To be honest, to conduct this experiment, how do you even start gathering people to do it on? People from Team Liquid will answer differently from the baddies I met at a barcraft. I think doing the experiment after blizzcon and featuring the last 3 months of games would be the best. Around the time the new patch came would be optimal.
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United States23455 Posts
Wow that disrespect to Xigua and Toodming
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