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imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4101
So MC > Kespa protoss?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4102
On August 30 2014 07:15 Mensol wrote:
I feel so bad for Flash.

If Flash and MC were to play 100 BW games, Flash wouldn't lose a single one.


And if flash played basketball against Kobe Bryant he wouldn't score a single shot.

Whats your point?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4103
On August 30 2014 07:16 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:15 Lorning wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 TheAnarchy wrote:
That was just.... I wonder why cant we speak about balance problems?

Cause MC outplayed Flash the entire series


Blind guessed in game 3, lost to a gamble in game 2, how is this out played?


One guy spent his week studying and making a battle plan to take out his opponent. The other guy played as normal.
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4104
On August 30 2014 07:16 Epamynondas wrote:
omg



Mana how?


what an actual fuck?

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4105
Flash vs Scarlett!

Just as I'd hoped. I think Scarlett can do it if she brings her best.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4106
MC really gives the best interviews. Always entertaining.
Flash | Mvp
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4107
Flash mc. sos snute. Upsets abound.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4108
On August 30 2014 07:17 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.


2-3 hour jet lag = 11-12 hour jetlag?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8642 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4109
On August 30 2014 07:17 HomeWorld wrote:
Such a pathetic game. Hide a stargate in a random map place, win the game. So sad and also a testament of 0 skill needed to play protoss.


Keep them tears coming.
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4110
On August 30 2014 07:17 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:16 Epamynondas wrote:
omg

https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/505478675085926400

Mana how?

Liquid is amazing today, even their predictions


it was 2 base, though
you live and you learn
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4111
On August 30 2014 07:17 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:15 Mensol wrote:
I feel so bad for Flash.

If Flash and MC were to play 100 BW games, Flash wouldn't lose a single one.

if Grubby and Obama were to play 100 war3 games, Grubby wouldn't lose a single one.

not sure how that's relevant.

Confirmed, grubby would make a better president, thanks Obama
Glorious SEA doto
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4112
<3 MC
Unstoppable force!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Mattidute
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands232 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4113
Look on the bright side, now Flash can beat Scarlett and due to that we'll see 1 more Flash match compared to if he had won this group at this IEM as he'll have to also play the final match of the group stage.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4114
On August 30 2014 07:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:16 Epamynondas wrote:
omg

https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/505478675085926400

Mana how?


That's... wow the calls.

Liquid picks up literal gods of the game.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 22:19:18
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4115
Ok I wont complain about balance. This game was so logical 3 voidrays killing a player. Good work Blizzard good work

User was warned for this post
SSVnormandy
Profile Joined July 2012
France392 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4116
Kespa are doing relatively poorly
Battlecruisers.... Just Battlecruisers...
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4117
Holy shit MC and Snute!!! This group is nuts, Scarlett vs. Flash is LOSERS?!?!?!?!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 29 2014 22:19 GMT
#4118
On August 30 2014 07:18 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:16 Caihead wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 Lorning wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:15 TheAnarchy wrote:
That was just.... I wonder why cant we speak about balance problems?

Cause MC outplayed Flash the entire series


Blind guessed in game 3, lost to a gamble in game 2, how is this out played?


One guy spent his week studying and making a battle plan to take out his opponent. The other guy played as normal.


I don't think Flash "played as normal", I've never seen him cc first vs protoss in a long time.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 29 2014 22:19 GMT
#4119
On August 30 2014 07:15 Mensol wrote:
I feel so bad for Flash.

If Flash and MC were to play 100 BW games, Flash wouldn't lose a single one.

What exactly is your point here? If Flash and Moon play 100 WC3 games, Moon probably wins 90+ of them. Flash is in another league than MC in bw. Noone doubts that.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
August 29 2014 22:19 GMT
#4120
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

they had a day of rest, and honestly: did flash, zest and sos look like they were completely exhausted and completely unable to play? no, they played well. but taeja/snute/mc (who all traveled from europe/korea aswell) beat them in straight up games.
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