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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4081
Who is next on main stream?
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4082
MC is actually a really smart player
he totally knew what Flash was going to do in the third game
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4083
On August 30 2014 07:16 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:15 Mensol wrote:
I feel so bad for Flash.

If Flash and MC were to play 100 BW games, Flash wouldn't lose a single one.

But they played 3 in Starcraft 2 and Flash lost 2




Fucking owned.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4084
Scarlett vs Flash in an elimination match not like this T_T
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4085
Such a pathetic game. Hide a stargate in a random map place, win the game. So sad and also a testament of 0 skill needed to play protoss.

User was warned for this post
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4086
On August 30 2014 07:15 TheAnarchy wrote:
That was just.... I wonder why cant we speak about balance problems?

Because this had nothing to do with Balance. MC played well, Flash made mistakes. Ever since game 1 he didn't properly scout for proxy stuff and his reaction to stargate wasn't at all enough. He already knew there was going to be some kind of air units and he didn't build a single turret next to his barracks.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4087
On August 30 2014 07:16 checkupriv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
On August 30 2014 07:14 Rollora wrote:
yeah, Protoss still cheeser race that brings you to the win even if you are an inferiour player

User was warned for this post


You must have missed when MC out macroed Flash with better deciosns and micro in g1.

the game where flash got 50 supply ahead through macro alone?


Macro isnt just about making units. Its about making the right unit compositions, right tech and right economic decisions.
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4088
On August 30 2014 07:14 SFDuality wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:13 Rollora wrote:
omg MC knows he can't win without cheese...

Did you see the first game?

The one where Flash walked past both the main protoss army and the zealot jihad? That one pure moment of luck for MC? The one where after that game winning moment of luck, Flash still pushed MC up to the wall for most of the game? Yeah, saw that.
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4089
Here haters, MC killed Flash knowing he would move out with Marines and ran into his base with Voidrays

It was all expertly planned based on Flash response in Game 2... ok thx bye
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4090
On August 30 2014 07:16 Epamynondas wrote:
omg



Mana how?


European secret PvT meta? What...what the shit, Mana?

Also, AWESOME that MC acknowledges the Godfather of the Void Ray.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4091
Im more impressed with MC's English than his skill. His pronunciation has gotten way past the average Konglish speaker
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4092
On August 30 2014 07:15 TheAnarchy wrote:
That was just.... I wonder why cant we speak about balance problems?


You can, you just can't make bad, off-hand whines about it. This is how you discuss balance. The meaningless whining in this thread when your favorite player loses is not it, and it only serves to ruin an otherwise pleasant thread.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4093
On August 30 2014 07:15 Mensol wrote:
I feel so bad for Flash.

If Flash and MC were to play 100 BW games, Flash wouldn't lose a single one.

if Grubby and Obama were to play 100 war3 games, Grubby wouldn't lose a single one.

not sure how that's relevant.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 22:18:09
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4094
On August 30 2014 07:16 lopido wrote:
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On August 30 2014 07:14 Tanzklaue wrote:
i think if we learn anything from this tournament, then that we should stop calling "foreign koreans" or even foreigners straight up indefinitely and always worse than kespa koreans.



Start by traveling 16 straight hours, than try to play some starcraft games before opening your mouth.
foreign koreans are by far much worse than koreans.

Pretty sure MC doesn't live in Toronto either.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4095
"I am still hungry" -- MC
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4096
On August 30 2014 07:14 Rollora wrote:
yeah, Protoss still cheeser race that brings you to the win even if you are an inferiour player

User was warned for this post

you can warn me all day everyday, doesn't change that cheese is still way too strong for protoss. Should be a coinflip with 50% chance, but it isn't since the chance to scout it is so low and even if its scouted some of these cheeses/allins have a way too high winrate or transitions out of it(so no allin, even if it does damage like an allin, like... blink "allin")

User was temp banned for this post.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#4097
On August 30 2014 07:16 Epamynondas wrote:
omg

https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/505478675085926400

Mana how?


That's... wow the calls.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4098
They will show scarlett vs flash on the main stage...
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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4099
"He aggressive style. So Game 3, I know he will come. And Void Ray, betray."

haha brilliant xD
(>'.')>
Zprit
Profile Joined July 2013
92 Posts
August 29 2014 22:18 GMT
#4100
- Oh you didn't expect 4 void rays to randomly fly into your main? Well sucks to be you I guess, you should have scouted more, this is starcraft 2: Heart of scouting

Protoss... Aaw well, Flash should be fine though with two Zergs. Hopefully he'll play better against MC they face in the decider match.
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