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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 19 2014 18:48 GMT
#541
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.


See what?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 18:48 GMT
#542
On August 20 2014 03:46 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:36 Bowzar wrote:
Finland better than Sweden in hockey? HAHAHAHA


Finland has some pretty good goalies though.

Yeah their goalies are sick and I feel like their forward youth is slightly better. Oh man, I cant imagine living in a world where Finland is better than Sweden in hockey.


I say that every year with Canada and the States, but USA get's scarier and scarier every year
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
August 19 2014 18:49 GMT
#543
On August 20 2014 03:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:46 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:43 Boucot wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:41 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:30 Ammanas wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:27 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:21 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
man my internet sucks today. mobile quality here I come

That socialist internet

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

Yeah, I'm sitting here with this shitty wireless 60 Mbit/s line for 20 euros a month

WTB real capitalist interwebs.

Jerks. I'm paying $45/month for 25mbps download, 2mpbs upload, and a downlaod cap of 300GB usage per month. Unlimited from 2am to 8am =.=

lol wut? there still exists internet that caps download? O_O
(btw, 100/100 Mbit for 10 euros a month, no limits to anything. Not that I am bragging )

Pretty much Canada and American Internet, there are download and/or upload caps. If you want something faster here with a larger cap at where I live (my house) in Toronto, most likely you will be paying the following:

Rogers - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 120GB download and upload cap = $70/month. 320GB download and upload cap = $85/month.
Rogers - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 350GB download and uploadcap = $86/month. 550GB download and upload cap = $101/month.

Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 300GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $65/month. Teksavvy, (similar to Start) = $70/month.
Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 400GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $90/month. Teksavvy (similar to Start but 300GB download cap) = $90/month

So yeah, Canadian Internet sucks. We get raped and we can't do anything about it.

Limited internet is a scandal.

How else are we going to pay for the CEO's million dollar bonus and buyout the competition? Money's gotta come from somewhere!

Go over your cap, and it's 50 cents per GB. Only 50 cents!!! So cheap!


Don't forget, they have to pay the CRTC's salary as well. Goverment officials aint cheap.

Right. They work for the telecoms, not for us. Completely forgot about that.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 19 2014 18:49 GMT
#544
Play safe?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 19 2014 18:50 GMT
#545
On August 20 2014 03:46 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

i don't think overdroning because of a lack of information counts as "BO win"...


Isn't that exactly what a build order win is?
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 19 2014 18:50 GMT
#546
On August 20 2014 03:41 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:30 Ammanas wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:27 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:21 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
man my internet sucks today. mobile quality here I come

That socialist internet

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

Yeah, I'm sitting here with this shitty wireless 60 Mbit/s line for 20 euros a month

WTB real capitalist interwebs.

Jerks. I'm paying $45/month for 25mbps download, 2mpbs upload, and a downlaod cap of 300GB usage per month. Unlimited from 2am to 8am =.=

lol wut? there still exists internet that caps download? O_O
(btw, 100/100 Mbit for 10 euros a month, no limits to anything. Not that I am bragging )

Pretty much Canada and American Internet, there are download and/or upload caps. If you want something faster here with a larger cap at where I live (my house) in Toronto, most likely you will be paying the following:

Rogers - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 120GB download and upload cap = $70/month. 320GB download and upload cap = $85/month.
Rogers - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 350GB download and uploadcap = $86/month. 550GB download and upload cap = $101/month.

Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 300GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $65/month. Teksavvy, (similar to Start) = $70/month.
Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 400GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $90/month. Teksavvy (similar to Start but 300GB download cap) = $90/month

So yeah, Canadian Internet sucks. We get raped and we can't do anything about it.

what the fuck, that's like... unimaginable suffering for me O_O
Seriously, I cannot even imagine I would have capped download. I have 1080p streams opened like at least 10 hours a day (and more if it is weekend), downloading anime and TV shows that I cannot access otherwise (cause services like Netflix and Crunchyroll just don't work here).
Seriously, that's fucking bad.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 19 2014 18:50 GMT
#547
On August 20 2014 03:48 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.

He couldn't get the overlord into the main.

Then he misplayed it. If the OL gets pushed away aggressively, that tells you things too.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
August 19 2014 18:51 GMT
#548
On August 20 2014 03:50 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:48 Alchemik wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.

He couldn't get the overlord into the main.

Then he misplayed it. If the OL gets pushed away aggressively, that tells you things too.

You can't fly the overlord if you face pool first.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 19 2014 18:51 GMT
#549
On August 20 2014 03:50 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:48 Alchemik wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.

He couldn't get the overlord into the main.

Then he misplayed it. If the OL gets pushed away aggressively, that tells you things too.

why would you ever not push away an OL? That just tells you that your opponent has seen your OL.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 18:52:05
August 19 2014 18:51 GMT
#550
On August 20 2014 03:48 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.


See what?

The lings, or the early speed on the pool.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 19 2014 18:51 GMT
#551
Miniraser is best foreigner
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 18:52 GMT
#552
On August 20 2014 03:50 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:41 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:30 Ammanas wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:27 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:21 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
man my internet sucks today. mobile quality here I come

That socialist internet

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

Yeah, I'm sitting here with this shitty wireless 60 Mbit/s line for 20 euros a month

WTB real capitalist interwebs.

Jerks. I'm paying $45/month for 25mbps download, 2mpbs upload, and a downlaod cap of 300GB usage per month. Unlimited from 2am to 8am =.=

lol wut? there still exists internet that caps download? O_O
(btw, 100/100 Mbit for 10 euros a month, no limits to anything. Not that I am bragging )

Pretty much Canada and American Internet, there are download and/or upload caps. If you want something faster here with a larger cap at where I live (my house) in Toronto, most likely you will be paying the following:

Rogers - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 120GB download and upload cap = $70/month. 320GB download and upload cap = $85/month.
Rogers - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 350GB download and uploadcap = $86/month. 550GB download and upload cap = $101/month.

Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 300GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $65/month. Teksavvy, (similar to Start) = $70/month.
Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 400GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $90/month. Teksavvy (similar to Start but 300GB download cap) = $90/month

So yeah, Canadian Internet sucks. We get raped and we can't do anything about it.

what the fuck, that's like... unimaginable suffering for me O_O
Seriously, I cannot even imagine I would have capped download. I have 1080p streams opened like at least 10 hours a day (and more if it is weekend), downloading anime and TV shows that I cannot access otherwise (cause services like Netflix and Crunchyroll just don't work here).
Seriously, that's fucking bad.


Too be fair, it's not that bad everywhere. Some areas of the country are monopolized and that's where you get problems like this, but big cities usually have other options. I have no download cap for example, but it does get stupidly slow once in a while.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
August 19 2014 18:52 GMT
#553
On August 20 2014 03:41 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:30 Ammanas wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:27 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:21 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
man my internet sucks today. mobile quality here I come

That socialist internet

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

Yeah, I'm sitting here with this shitty wireless 60 Mbit/s line for 20 euros a month

WTB real capitalist interwebs.

Jerks. I'm paying $45/month for 25mbps download, 2mpbs upload, and a downlaod cap of 300GB usage per month. Unlimited from 2am to 8am =.=

lol wut? there still exists internet that caps download? O_O
(btw, 100/100 Mbit for 10 euros a month, no limits to anything. Not that I am bragging )

Pretty much Canada and American Internet, there are download and/or upload caps. If you want something faster here with a larger cap at where I live (my house) in Toronto, most likely you will be paying the following:

Rogers - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 120GB download and upload cap = $70/month. 320GB download and upload cap = $85/month.
Rogers - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 350GB download and uploadcap = $86/month. 550GB download and upload cap = $101/month.

Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 300GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $65/month. Teksavvy, (similar to Start) = $70/month.
Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 400GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $90/month. Teksavvy (similar to Start but 300GB download cap) = $90/month

So yeah, Canadian Internet sucks. We get raped and we can't do anything about it.


Start your own ISP without limit and break the prices. Then enjoy your huge popularity (and your cash) :D


Pif Paf Pouf
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 19 2014 18:52 GMT
#554
On August 20 2014 01:27 Skynx wrote:
If miniraiser somehow advances 1st place I will eat a hat.


GOGOGO
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 19 2014 18:52 GMT
#555
On August 20 2014 03:51 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:50 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:48 Alchemik wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.

He couldn't get the overlord into the main.

Then he misplayed it. If the OL gets pushed away aggressively, that tells you things too.

You can't fly the overlord if you face pool first.

Which tells you you're facing pool first, and possibly early speed.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 18:55:06
August 19 2014 18:53 GMT
#556
On August 20 2014 03:50 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:41 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:30 Ammanas wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:27 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:21 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
man my internet sucks today. mobile quality here I come

That socialist internet

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

Yeah, I'm sitting here with this shitty wireless 60 Mbit/s line for 20 euros a month

WTB real capitalist interwebs.

Jerks. I'm paying $45/month for 25mbps download, 2mpbs upload, and a downlaod cap of 300GB usage per month. Unlimited from 2am to 8am =.=

lol wut? there still exists internet that caps download? O_O
(btw, 100/100 Mbit for 10 euros a month, no limits to anything. Not that I am bragging )

Pretty much Canada and American Internet, there are download and/or upload caps. If you want something faster here with a larger cap at where I live (my house) in Toronto, most likely you will be paying the following:

Rogers - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 120GB download and upload cap = $70/month. 320GB download and upload cap = $85/month.
Rogers - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 350GB download and uploadcap = $86/month. 550GB download and upload cap = $101/month.

Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 300GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $65/month. Teksavvy, (similar to Start) = $70/month.
Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 400GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $90/month. Teksavvy (similar to Start but 300GB download cap) = $90/month

So yeah, Canadian Internet sucks. We get raped and we can't do anything about it.

what the fuck, that's like... unimaginable suffering for me O_O
Seriously, I cannot even imagine I would have capped download. I have 1080p streams opened like at least 10 hours a day (and more if it is weekend), downloading anime and TV shows that I cannot access otherwise (cause services like Netflix and Crunchyroll just don't work here).
Seriously, that's fucking bad.

Welcome to Canada. It's how the telecommunications forces us to use less Internet, so they don't have to upgrade their infrastructure.That and pay the CEO bonuses I mentioned earlier.

On August 20 2014 03:52 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:41 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:30 Ammanas wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:27 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:21 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:13 ThomasjServo wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
man my internet sucks today. mobile quality here I come

That socialist internet

+ Show Spoiler +
jk

Yeah, I'm sitting here with this shitty wireless 60 Mbit/s line for 20 euros a month

WTB real capitalist interwebs.

Jerks. I'm paying $45/month for 25mbps download, 2mpbs upload, and a downlaod cap of 300GB usage per month. Unlimited from 2am to 8am =.=

lol wut? there still exists internet that caps download? O_O
(btw, 100/100 Mbit for 10 euros a month, no limits to anything. Not that I am bragging )

Pretty much Canada and American Internet, there are download and/or upload caps. If you want something faster here with a larger cap at where I live (my house) in Toronto, most likely you will be paying the following:

Rogers - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 120GB download and upload cap = $70/month. 320GB download and upload cap = $85/month.
Rogers - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 350GB download and uploadcap = $86/month. 550GB download and upload cap = $101/month.

Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 60mbps download, 10mbps upload. 300GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $65/month. Teksavvy, (similar to Start) = $70/month.
Start (uses Rogers last mile) - 150mbps download, 15mbps upload. 400GB download cap, 2am to 8am unlimited use = $90/month. Teksavvy (similar to Start but 300GB download cap) = $90/month

So yeah, Canadian Internet sucks. We get raped and we can't do anything about it.


Start your own ISP without limit and break the prices. Then enjoy your huge popularity (and your cash) :D



Except you can't. You will still be working with Rogers simply put, and are subject to the CRTC, which basically bends over backwards for the telecoms despite claiming to work for us citizens. Start and Teksavvy are basically these independent ISPs that you are talking about and telling me to start. Rogers and Bell still controls them indirectly because they own the last mile, which is the cable that connects your house to the local node down the street.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 19 2014 18:53 GMT
#557
On August 20 2014 03:50 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:48 Alchemik wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.

He couldn't get the overlord into the main.

Then he misplayed it. If the OL gets pushed away aggressively, that tells you things too.

the hatchery was a regular pool first timing and with pool first the queen will pop as the overlord is flying in

its a very hard build to read, thats why miniraser did it, but he screws up his build to get that impossibly early hatchery for the specific purpose of mindgaming snute. its not impossible to hold, snute is just a greedy player, it was a smart play
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 19 2014 18:54 GMT
#558
On August 20 2014 03:51 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:48 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.


See what?

The lings, or the early speed on the pool.


If you sack an OL that early just to see a 15/15 build, the opponent can just make drones and is way ahead.
Plus, when you sac the OL so early, you will be even harder pressed to hold than you are already.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
August 19 2014 18:54 GMT
#559
On August 20 2014 03:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:51 Alchemik wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:50 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:48 Alchemik wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:47 Squat wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:44 vult wrote:
Yuck ZvZ build order winsss

One OL into the main reveals everything. Cannot not scout in ZvZ and play greedy at the same time.

He couldn't get the overlord into the main.

Then he misplayed it. If the OL gets pushed away aggressively, that tells you things too.

You can't fly the overlord if you face pool first.

Which tells you you're facing pool first, and possibly early speed.

It tells you you're facing pool first. Which tells you nothing. Hatch first is better for ling all-ins due to injects being synched anyway.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 19 2014 18:54 GMT
#560
anyone else notice how protoss has a 0% series win rate in nonmirrors so far this season in EU?
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