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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 18:40:26
August 31 2014 18:38 GMT
#241
On September 01 2014 03:16 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 02:47 mikumegurine wrote:
Sen is the only foreigner to win a premier tournament since 2012?

and he has been around the longest next to Whitera or something

and he just won Hearthstone Tournament beating Amaz, who is a big deal, (and there are probably more HS viewers and players than SC2 in the world right now)

and if its true that after his victories a Taiwanese forum posted this poll link and had everyone on there vote for Sen, then well, i guess its not TOO farfetched

well still kinda farfetched but, whatever this is just a POPULARITY Tournament after all, u wont get the 6 best foreigners from this...?


EDIT:

Sen
Scarlett
Nerchio
MaNa

so far its these 4 with most votes

so no Bunny, no Snute (best foreigner aint even going to lie, and even Apollo said so on stream)

Bunny and Snute might have to go through the tough and stacked gauntlet that is the qualifiers, for that 2 spots cause they werent popular enough

and note upsets do happen, like a certain TL player who lost to Minraiser in WCS EU, imagine a this "6 best foreigner tournament" without this TL player, ridiculous

pretty fair that some popular players got invites and 2 players will have a much tougher road to getting in huh for this 6 Best Foreigner tournament



If you are the best foreigner a random bracket made of mid tier foreigners shouldn't really be a problem?


well let me try an example, do u consider Miniraiser a mid tier foreigner? i dont know all bout EU so not sure if he counts as a high mid or low tier foreigner

he beat Snute in WCS EU...Snute, who many agree is the best foreigner (even Apollo blantly said Snute is the best foreigner on stream)

so the qualifer bracket is not an exactly random "easy" bracket players have to go through

EDIT: Also thinking bout Sen's votes, they might be real?

cause if those were fake votes, wouldnt the faker try to avoid being so obvious by having SO many votes? if they were fake votes, the faker would add just enough votes to put Sen in the top 4 votes or maybe #1 votes, but wouldnt go so high to avoid suspicion

yet the vote count is high...
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 31 2014 20:09 GMT
#242
On September 01 2014 03:38 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:16 Nerchio wrote:
On September 01 2014 02:47 mikumegurine wrote:
Sen is the only foreigner to win a premier tournament since 2012?

and he has been around the longest next to Whitera or something

and he just won Hearthstone Tournament beating Amaz, who is a big deal, (and there are probably more HS viewers and players than SC2 in the world right now)

and if its true that after his victories a Taiwanese forum posted this poll link and had everyone on there vote for Sen, then well, i guess its not TOO farfetched

well still kinda farfetched but, whatever this is just a POPULARITY Tournament after all, u wont get the 6 best foreigners from this...?


EDIT:

Sen
Scarlett
Nerchio
MaNa

so far its these 4 with most votes

so no Bunny, no Snute (best foreigner aint even going to lie, and even Apollo said so on stream)

Bunny and Snute might have to go through the tough and stacked gauntlet that is the qualifiers, for that 2 spots cause they werent popular enough

and note upsets do happen, like a certain TL player who lost to Minraiser in WCS EU, imagine a this "6 best foreigner tournament" without this TL player, ridiculous

pretty fair that some popular players got invites and 2 players will have a much tougher road to getting in huh for this 6 Best Foreigner tournament



If you are the best foreigner a random bracket made of mid tier foreigners shouldn't really be a problem?


well let me try an example, do u consider Miniraiser a mid tier foreigner? i dont know all bout EU so not sure if he counts as a high mid or low tier foreigner

he beat Snute in WCS EU...Snute, who many agree is the best foreigner (even Apollo blantly said Snute is the best foreigner on stream)

so the qualifer bracket is not an exactly random "easy" bracket players have to go through

EDIT: Also thinking bout Sen's votes, they might be real?

cause if those were fake votes, wouldnt the faker try to avoid being so obvious by having SO many votes? if they were fake votes, the faker would add just enough votes to put Sen in the top 4 votes or maybe #1 votes, but wouldnt go so high to avoid suspicion

yet the vote count is high...

Or maybe it's a double bluff.
why even
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 21:31:47
August 31 2014 21:31 GMT
#243
[image loading]

The voting poll was selected by the top 21 (most I can put in the poll) Non-Korean players in the WCS Global Ranking as of 17th Aug 2014. Voting Closed Sunday, Aug 31 9:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

VOTE RESULTS

[image loading]

Invites will be given to the top 4 in the vote, then if declined offered to 5th,6th etc. I will update this post when invited players have accepted!
Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 21:43:39
August 31 2014 21:41 GMT
#244


Mana is such a nice guy. Good luck Grzegorz for qualifying, hope you succeed !
Still wondering how Nerchio got 600 votes though D:
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Liquid`MaNa
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland105 Posts
August 31 2014 21:42 GMT
#245
I decline my spot in the tournament, Snute deserves it much more and I will try to prove myself in the open bracket. Thanks for everybody who voted for me though.
Team Liquid
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 21:44:58
August 31 2014 21:43 GMT
#246
I have messaged MaNa privately, this is an incredible display of sportsmanship.
Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
August 31 2014 21:50 GMT
#247
mana 2016! (well vp I guess snute is pres)
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5624 Posts
August 31 2014 22:03 GMT
#248
Nordic countries reign the top 3 of WCS foreigners atm and none of them makes the cut? ;__;
don't wall off against random
Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
August 31 2014 22:08 GMT
#249
Hmmmm it seems very strange that Nerchio got so many votes, since this is essentially a popularity contest. He has a third of the twitter followers as snute and is clearly not a top level foreigner atm.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 22:14:18
August 31 2014 22:11 GMT
#250
Dat Liquid solidarity :D

MaNa is such a nice guy.

On September 01 2014 07:08 Ben1500 wrote:
Hmmmm it seems very strange that Nerchio got so many votes, since this is essentially a popularity contest. He has a third of the twitter followers as snute and is clearly not a top level foreigner atm.

The polish community is very active and very well organized. They have a huge forum (the polish equivalent of TL), don't remember how it's called and it's safe to guess that a big part of the votes for Nerchio and MaNa come from them. So no, not that strange.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 22:15:31
August 31 2014 22:13 GMT
#251
Nerchio should be a nice guy and do what Mana did. :>
why even
Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
August 31 2014 22:19 GMT
#252
Ahhhh ok that makes sense.
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
August 31 2014 22:47 GMT
#253
Nerchio? seriously? Since when was he relevant any more
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
September 01 2014 00:18 GMT
#254
On August 18 2014 02:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I think you should use pollcode or strawpoll or some other site that allows you to pick more than one option. That would make it a little bit less difficult to choose and also would probably give the slightly less popular foreigners a better chance.


But if the point is to have the most popular foreigners, why would giving the less popular foreigners a chance matter? :/
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
September 01 2014 01:59 GMT
#255
Lol, what happened to this poll? Sen's fans went cray cray
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 01 2014 03:58 GMT
#256
On September 01 2014 07:13 D-light wrote:
Nerchio should be a nice guy and do what Mana did. :>

he has no reason to if he doesn't want to though, he earned that spot
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Supdude
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
September 01 2014 04:06 GMT
#257
Well, this is essentially a popularity contest, and Sen has a huge followings even though they are not very vocal on TL.

Looking forward to Sen claiming the best non-Korean title... He has been in the conversation (constantly one of the best non-Koreans) for that title many years...
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7176 Posts
September 01 2014 04:57 GMT
#258
Wow, Mana amazing sportsmanship.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
September 01 2014 05:13 GMT
#259
On September 01 2014 07:47 Aeceus wrote:
Nerchio? seriously? Since when was he relevant any more


rage quitting zotac cups
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
tnfshbest
Profile Joined September 2014
Taiwan1 Post
September 01 2014 12:25 GMT
#260
Not many Sen's fans noticed this vote at the beginning. Sen got a lot vote in the short time lastly because this post was reposted on PTT (largest forum in Taiwan), Sen's official facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/YangChiaCheng 57,000 likes). Also, another Taiwanese famous SC2 commentator SoBadRush talk about this on his page too.
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