While you can maybe argue that the current performance is less than what they ought to be I think calling them mediocre is a bit.. much. Samsung Khan is mediocre.

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

July 22 2014 11:41 GMT

#647

On July 22 2014 20:36 prabhbhambra13 wrote:

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Speaking of players that SKT dropped. Does anyone know if Sorry is on the SKT roster or not?

He is

wl4d

France103 Posts

July 22 2014 11:42 GMT

#648

On July 22 2014 20:40 Bowzar wrote:

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They should have won 4-0 but soO decided to throw.

Soulkey and parting as well apparently.

Heartland

Sweden24604 Posts

July 22 2014 11:42 GMT

#649

On July 22 2014 20:41 Pino wrote:

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Watching proleague ATM

I take it all back!

Scarecrow

Korea (South)9174 Posts

July 22 2014 11:42 GMT

#650

2 team's year of starcraft coming down to a pvp bo1... this is the stuff of nightmares

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10376 Posts

July 22 2014 11:42 GMT

#651

On July 22 2014 20:28 Nebuchad wrote:

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On July 22 2014 20:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On July 22 2014 20:21 robson1 wrote:

On July 22 2014 20:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On July 22 2014 20:17 TheDwf wrote:

On July 22 2014 20:11 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

On July 22 2014 19:48 TheDwf wrote:

On July 22 2014 19:44 Exarl25 wrote:

On July 22 2014 19:44 TheDwf wrote:

On July 22 2014 19:41 Exarl25 wrote:
It is viable. There is absolutely no chance in hell he would do the same thing 3 times on this map in such important games if it didn't have merit. Standard play fails too if your build isn't tight enough and you are slow on your transitions. If he got that AA up faster the game goes on.

If he gets that AA up he still loses to the addition of Templars. Air/Templars wins everything in lategame TvP.

Going to trust in the judgement of a team in the playoffs of Proleague over yours.

Sure, the 0-2 record against answers that were not hilariously off speaks for itself.

This is as silly as saying that a bio player losing 0-2 proves that bio isn't viable, just because his composition wasn't hilariously off. You were tricked and have 2 vikings too few to defend his colossi. You didn't scout ahead enough and ran into some storms. Etc. etc.

In a pro game you can lose if anything is slightly off. That's common sense. You should know this.

I also choose to trust a professional gamer who was comfortable enough to let the game go that long and do it 3 times and surely has a much better understanding of the game than you to say it's not viable.

Believe if you want to believe. The day the mech:bio ratio isn't 500:1 anymore in high level Korean TvP, the conversations about the viability of mech can start. Until that's it's pure faith from people who want to believe vs the trial of reality.

Well when such an occurrence as the sudden burst of mech in TvT in MLG Anaheim (after people consider it not to be viable simply because it isn't played much) has happened, I can believe in anything. Or in 2012 with mech finally being used in TvZ after being absent in GSL since virtually 2010. To me the amount of times a style is used isn't directly connected to how viable it is.

So 4 years of pros randomly throwing it in and getting punished for it don't convince you.... alrighty then. Keep believing.

Getting punished for what? Air/HT in HotS? For 4 years?

If you're talking about WoL, Terran won in TvP with mech more often than lost. I found every single game in GSL and wrote the score down. The point is not popularity or if it's better than bio or not. If it can win, then that's what I consider to be viable. Again, that's like the people saying back in TvT and TvZ that mech isn't viable, because it's used so infrequently. There's such a thing as players not figuring something out until later.

I'm okay with you saying that it's not impossible for mech to work. I'm not okay with Exarl saying "hey, we have to assume mech works, otherwise Bbyong wouldn't use it." That's what Dwf was answering to, and so maybe he didn't use the most precise phrasing he could have, but he's on the right side on this.

Well to me if something has a decent chance of working, I consider it working. And it seems it's the same with Exarl too, as he only said that it has "merit" (an unspecified amount). He pointed out some things Bbyong could have improved to win the game but thedwf dismissed it with a blanketing statement about lategame TvP. At least, this is how I was interpreting it. So perhaps part of the problem is in miscommunication there regarding the extent of it "working" as well as what "viable" means to each person

sharkie

Austria18690 Posts

July 22 2014 11:42 GMT

#652

herO already kicked out SKT with Rain as ace once in his career :o

imre

France9263 Posts

July 22 2014 11:43 GMT

#653

On July 22 2014 20:41 Heartland wrote:
While you can maybe argue that the current performance is less than what they ought to be I think calling them mediocre is a bit.. much. Samsung Khan is mediocre.

this game will weight a lot in the post season analysis, if Rain lose not sure how you can say they did worse than Khan when you take into account the rosters. (and Khan blew)

Heartland

Sweden24604 Posts

July 22 2014 11:43 GMT

#654

Did SK Telecom Protoss stop using their old way of walling in PvP?

BisuDagger

Bisutopia19368 Posts

July 22 2014 11:43 GMT

#655

On July 22 2014 20:42 Heartland wrote:

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I take it all back!

So does Bisu. He would never turn his back on an SKT fan. All are welcome to the church. Mass tonight on my BW Weekly show later today! (shameless advertising)

Pangpootata

1838 Posts

July 22 2014 11:43 GMT

#656

On July 22 2014 20:42 sharkie wrote:
herO already kicked out SKT with Rain as ace once in his career :o

Twice very soon.

Bowzar

Sweden741 Posts

July 22 2014 11:44 GMT

#657

On July 22 2014 20:42 wl4d wrote:

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Soulkey and parting as well apparently.

If they play standard I think they easily win, at least Soulkey does.

iNsaNe-

Finland5201 Posts

July 22 2014 11:44 GMT

#658

On July 22 2014 20:42 Scarecrow wrote:
2 team's year of starcraft coming down to a pvp bo1... this is the stuff of nightmares

Let's hope it's going to be DT's.

Heartland

Sweden24604 Posts

July 22 2014 11:44 GMT

#659

On July 22 2014 20:43 BisuDagger wrote:

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So does Bisu. He would never turn his back on an SKT fan. All are welcome to the church. Mass tonight on my BW Weekly show later today! (shameless advertising)

Thank you, archpope.

Pino

1032 Posts

July 22 2014 11:44 GMT

#660

On July 22 2014 20:43 BisuDagger wrote:

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So does Bisu. He would never turn his back on an SKT fan. All are welcome to the church. Mass tonight on my BW Weekly show later today! (shameless advertising)

Rain approves