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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 30 2014 17:45 GMT
#321
On July 31 2014 02:37 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
This roach hydra play is impressive. I feel like the bio+tanks didn't work out so well. Pure mech did alright. Would pure bio work? Have a feeling we'll be seeing this more of this soon, since the widow mine buff might be scaring Zerg out of ling+bling+muta.

The Thor targeting has a bigger impact than the widow mine. It's the mutas that are killer. Mutas can snipe mines, can't snipe Thors.


You wonder why players weren't shift targeting mutas with their Thors before.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
July 30 2014 17:47 GMT
#322
On July 31 2014 02:37 Foreverkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
This roach hydra play is impressive. I feel like the bio+tanks didn't work out so well. Pure mech did alright. Would pure bio work? Have a feeling we'll be seeing this more of this soon, since the widow mine buff might be scaring Zerg out of ling+bling+muta.

The Thor targeting has a bigger impact than the widow mine. It's the mutas that are killer. Mutas can snipe mines, can't snipe Thors.

Yeah, I've actually been very surprised at how much of an impact the Thor targeting change has had. When it was first suggested, I thought "meh", but I didn't realize they would actually initialize AA targeting at max range (which is pretty far).
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
July 30 2014 17:47 GMT
#323
On July 31 2014 02:45 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:37 Foreverkul wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
This roach hydra play is impressive. I feel like the bio+tanks didn't work out so well. Pure mech did alright. Would pure bio work? Have a feeling we'll be seeing this more of this soon, since the widow mine buff might be scaring Zerg out of ling+bling+muta.

The Thor targeting has a bigger impact than the widow mine. It's the mutas that are killer. Mutas can snipe mines, can't snipe Thors.


You wonder why players weren't shift targeting mutas with their Thors before.

Too busy microing other uniits I guess.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 30 2014 17:48 GMT
#324
On July 31 2014 02:45 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:37 Foreverkul wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
This roach hydra play is impressive. I feel like the bio+tanks didn't work out so well. Pure mech did alright. Would pure bio work? Have a feeling we'll be seeing this more of this soon, since the widow mine buff might be scaring Zerg out of ling+bling+muta.

The Thor targeting has a bigger impact than the widow mine. It's the mutas that are killer. Mutas can snipe mines, can't snipe Thors.


You wonder why players weren't shift targeting mutas with their Thors before.

Some were, but there are too many tasks to perform this constantly and you cannot reassign the target each time the Thor decides to overkill that juicy Zergling.
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
July 30 2014 17:49 GMT
#325
I missed the last game, did MMA win the series?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 30 2014 17:50 GMT
#326
On July 31 2014 02:47 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:37 Foreverkul wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
This roach hydra play is impressive. I feel like the bio+tanks didn't work out so well. Pure mech did alright. Would pure bio work? Have a feeling we'll be seeing this more of this soon, since the widow mine buff might be scaring Zerg out of ling+bling+muta.

The Thor targeting has a bigger impact than the widow mine. It's the mutas that are killer. Mutas can snipe mines, can't snipe Thors.

Yeah, I've actually been very surprised at how much of an impact the Thor targeting change has had. When it was first suggested, I thought "meh", but I didn't realize they would actually initialize AA targeting at max range (which is pretty far).

It's pretty crazy now, I almost wouldn't mind seeing a very slight thor AA range nerf, just from like 10 to 9 or something
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 30 2014 17:50 GMT
#327
On July 31 2014 02:49 StarMoon wrote:
I missed the last game, did MMA win the series?

nope
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
July 30 2014 17:51 GMT
#328
On July 31 2014 02:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:49 StarMoon wrote:
I missed the last game, did MMA win the series?

nope


Thanks.

+ Show Spoiler +
damn it....
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
July 30 2014 17:51 GMT
#329
Who's casting with Apollo on main stream?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 17:53:26
July 30 2014 17:53 GMT
#330
On July 31 2014 02:51 Jimmeh wrote:
Who's casting with Apollo on main stream?

hasuobs
don't ask me why though
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18744 Posts
July 30 2014 17:54 GMT
#331
Thor change is perfectly fine and makes sense.

But I think they should have let this play out for a few weeks before buffing mines at the same time...
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
July 30 2014 17:55 GMT
#332
beautiful terran win
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 30 2014 17:56 GMT
#333
On July 31 2014 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:45 Larkin wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:37 Foreverkul wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:32 CakeSauc3 wrote:
This roach hydra play is impressive. I feel like the bio+tanks didn't work out so well. Pure mech did alright. Would pure bio work? Have a feeling we'll be seeing this more of this soon, since the widow mine buff might be scaring Zerg out of ling+bling+muta.

The Thor targeting has a bigger impact than the widow mine. It's the mutas that are killer. Mutas can snipe mines, can't snipe Thors.


You wonder why players weren't shift targeting mutas with their Thors before.

Some were, but there are too many tasks to perform this constantly and you cannot reassign the target each time the Thor decides to overkill that juicy Zergling.


I think that's where the change should have been made. A targeting system rather than just free micro.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 30 2014 17:56 GMT
#334
On July 31 2014 02:54 sharkie wrote:
Thor change is perfectly fine and makes sense.

But I think they should have let this play out for a few weeks before buffing mines at the same time...


Almost everyone thought the thor change would only have a very minor effect, and most people were complaining that Blizzard wasn't changing things fast enough as is, so... Its just the cycle of balance.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 30 2014 18:05 GMT
#335
On July 31 2014 02:53 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:51 Jimmeh wrote:
Who's casting with Apollo on main stream?

hasuobs
don't ask me why though

Why?
why even
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 30 2014 18:06 GMT
#336
How the hell did Yoda know HyuN had switched his tech when he didn't see ling speed and no bane nest or spire?
hundred thousand krouner
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 30 2014 18:08 GMT
#337
On July 31 2014 03:06 Zheryn wrote:
How the hell did Yoda know HyuN had switched his tech when he didn't see ling speed and no bane nest or spire?

The Force, young Padawan, the Force.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 30 2014 18:08 GMT
#338
On July 31 2014 03:05 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 02:53 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:51 Jimmeh wrote:
Who's casting with Apollo on main stream?

hasuobs
don't ask me why though

Why?

i don't knoooooooooooooooooooooow
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 30 2014 18:08 GMT
#339
On July 31 2014 03:06 Zheryn wrote:
How the hell did Yoda know HyuN had switched his tech when he didn't see ling speed and no bane nest or spire?


Maybe from the lack of heavy roach presence at that point? If he know HyuN's style well that might be a tell.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 30 2014 18:10 GMT
#340
On July 31 2014 03:08 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 03:05 D-light wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:53 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 31 2014 02:51 Jimmeh wrote:
Who's casting with Apollo on main stream?

hasuobs
don't ask me why though

Why?

i don't knoooooooooooooooooooooow

Kaelaris is on vacation, Apollo needed someone not to cast alone
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