EPT[WCS AM] Challenger Regional/Wildcard Qualifiers - Page 43
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vult
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On July 17 2014 13:41 TotalBiscuit wrote: What in the actual fuck? People weren't mad at Firecake? THEY HATED HIM. I mean they already hated him enough prior to that because he's known for being pretty BM on ladder, but the entire chat was spamming for 2 hours "END THIS", Reddit was covered in insults for Firecake. How you can keep going on defending him is mindblowing. I knew it would only be a matter of time before Avilo incriminated himself again and showed once more what we all knew, that he doesn't respect anybody and has an awful attitude for a competitive game. Some people will go on denying it though, cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug. As much as I dislike avilo, I have to say he's not at fault (nor can be blamed) for going for the draw. He was surprisingly good mannered, even said GG at the end. | ||
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codonbyte
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dvorakftw
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On July 17 2014 13:41 TotalBiscuit wrote: What in the actual fuck? People weren't mad at Firecake? THEY HATED HIM. I mean they already hated him enough prior to that because he's known for being pretty BM on ladder, but the entire chat was spamming for 2 hours "END THIS", Reddit was covered in insults for Firecake. How you can keep going on defending him is mindblowing. I knew it would only be a matter of time before Avilo incriminated himself again and showed once more what we all knew, that he doesn't respect anybody and has an awful attitude for a competitive game. Some people will go on denying it though, cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug. You know how in movies, like Spider-man 2 with Doc Ock, the bad guy reaches a point where he realizes his obsession has gone too far? I want you to think about this for a moment: You just used Twitch chat as an example of rational, thoughtful opinion. What's worse is the "༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ END THIS" meme was clearly about the game and represents no personal animosity toward FireCake at all. So think about it, won't you? As for Reddit covered in insults of FireCake, present them. I'll give you some of the most popular posts that day and you can Ctrl+F FireCake to easily find all your examples. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1ozxfd/ᕤºلº_ᕤ_end_this/ Top comment that wasn't repeating the meme: [–]ZeNex_Ventus 184 points 8 months ago Whichever developer pitched the idea for the Swarm Host should be fucking embarrassed. Seriously what the fuck was that person/team thinking.... http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1ozq8a/mana_vs_firecake_money_war/ Top voted comment: Geoff "iNcontroL" RobinsonEG_iNcontroLRC [-6] 115 points 8 months ago Incredibly stupid game. For me this is a couple of things: Need to be aggressive when you see your opponent is going SH. Sitting back and LETTING a zerg get here and I feel Mana really did do that he opted for passive play as well is not ok on a map like this where they can hunker down and really nullify the advantage of warp in. WP and spread tactics earlier (like the MOMENT you see SH) is a must on a map where SH can do this (bel shir, daybreak). Maps. Time to remove akilon. Not even solely because of this but because it is OLD at this point. Be strong enough to rotate in fresh maps every 3-4 months not 6+ etc. Lastly, game design. This is a can of worms I know everyone loves to talk about but why? They aren't going to remove the SH. They aren't going to give Protoss a ability to bust this open.. that would be equally broken. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1p03by/why_akilon_wastes_is_not_the_problem_firecake_vs/ Top voted comment: Valonsc [-2] 166 points 8 months ago I like how blizzard looked at Wol and saw Brood lord infestor, agreed that it was boring, then decided that the unit we needed the most was the swarm host. But hey I'm not crazy enough to read through every comment and thread that day and the day after so I'm sure you can find something to prove me wrong if you are up for the challenge. As for TeamLiquid, here's the live thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/433069-wcs-eu-group-g-challenger-season-3-2013 Again, find the FireCake hate. I triple-dog dare you.I'll share the fun things I found: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/433069-wcs-eu-group-g-challenger-season-3-2013?page=42#829 100 votes for 5 stars, best game of the year. Oh I know that isn't serious but it's certainly not an example of hate for FireCake or MaNa. Then there is this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/433069-wcs-eu-group-g-challenger-season-3-2013?page=13#256 Dario Wünsch @LiquidTLO Follow remove SH from the game pleaaaaaaaase, and give us a more fun unit  And finally! By faaaaaaaar my favorite find making this all so worthwhile... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/433069-wcs-eu-group-g-challenger-season-3-2013?page=14#261 Exarl25 October 22 2013 15:07. Posts 1769 Gift TL+ Profile # Can't an admin just step in and offer the players a draw? I don't think anyone wants to continue with this. For those who don't get the joke, look at the names of people posting these last few pages and see how opinions can change when it suits. I couldn't invent a better example for my point that many here start with "I hate avilo" and build from there,. So in summary, why do I often defend avilo? It's the same reason many defend you, TotalBiscuit. The truth must be defended. edit: Word Crimes | ||
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captainwaffles
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dvorakftw
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Nonsense! But please get TotalBiscuit to prove me wrong. As for your link, vVvReseT 67 points 2 years ago Who gives a shit.. Seriously, this isn't Jerry Springer. | ||
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captainwaffles
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On July 17 2014 16:53 dvorakftw wrote: "Nonsense"? Nonsense! But please get TotalBiscuit to prove me wrong. As for your link, Theres that cognitive dissonance TB mentioned earlier, its strong with you. Its like you have some kind of form of Stockholm syndrome and avilo can't possibly be a bad guy in your eyes even when the evidence is right in front of you. Anyway I'll stop this here, I've seen your name enough on reddit and TL to know that trying to reason with you is like trying to talk to a brick wall, enjoy the illusion you seem to love living in. back on topic I can't believe he was trying to draw only after it became clear he would lose, such disgusting behavior. | ||
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dvorakftw
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On July 17 2014 17:00 captainwaffles wrote: Theres that cognitive dissonance Its like you have some kind of form of Stockholm syndrome I'm not convinced you know what either of those terms actually mean. You really should leave this to TB. He's doing a terrbile job here but he's much better at this sort of thing than you are. | ||
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showstealer1829
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Psychobabas
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On July 17 2014 13:41 TotalBiscuit wrote: What in the actual fuck? People weren't mad at Firecake? THEY HATED HIM. I mean they already hated him enough prior to that because he's known for being pretty BM on ladder, but the entire chat was spamming for 2 hours "END THIS", Reddit was covered in insults for Firecake. How you can keep going on defending him is mindblowing. I knew it would only be a matter of time before Avilo incriminated himself again and showed once more what we all knew, that he doesn't respect anybody and has an awful attitude for a competitive game. Some people will go on denying it though, cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug. lol.. it's like a broken record... | ||
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Strela
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On July 17 2014 12:34 chipmonklord17 wrote: Which, to my knowledge, doesnt help him because he ran zero ads during the game He gained alot of subs especially later on in the game. On July 17 2014 13:13 dvorakftw wrote: So in summary, why do I often defend avilo? It's the same reason many defend you, TotalBiscuit. The truth must be defended. edit: Word Crimes I think most people are annoyed because he delayed the game on purpose by pausing and trying to get the admin to force the draw while his opponent wanted to keep playing. Then pausing again close to the end for no reason at all beside annoying his opponents and the viewers. After a while it was clear that he couldn't keep his base anymore but he had to wait until Patton fully broke through before finally floating for his draw attempt. Then when it was clear his units could be hit and he couldn't do anything he still stayed in the game wasting even more time. I never saw any attempt of him trying to win this game once he bunkered up. All that he was doing was delaying the inevitable. Ingame and with bm pauses. If he honestly was waiting for a mistake of his opponent to capitalise on then he wouldn't have alt tabbed all the frigging time to check his messages. | ||
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dvorakftw
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On July 17 2014 18:26 Strela wrote: I think most people are annoyed because I think most people were annoyed because they hate avilo. TotalBiscuit in this thread is pretty clear evidence of that. Which would be fine, if they would at least be honest and accurate. After a while it was clear that he couldn't keep his base anymore but he had to wait until Patton fully broke through before finally floating for his draw attempt. As has been mentioned numerous times already, avilo winning the game at that point would require a mistake from ImperialFist (Patton) and giving up the ramp would be giving up the best chance at forcing mistakes. This is obvious when you look at the game as Terran vs. Zerg instead of avilo vs. Fist. Then when it was clear his units could be hit and he couldn't do anything he still stayed in the game wasting even more time. It was little more than two minutes real time following over two hours real-time from the start. Again, a petty offense that wouldn't merit a mention except people have learned from the American legal system that it's good to throw as much as possible at the accused. | ||
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coL.hendralisk
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Strela
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On July 17 2014 19:43 dvorakftw wrote: I think most people were annoyed because they hate avilo. TotalBiscuit in this thread is pretty clear evidence of that. Which would be fine, if they would at least be honest and accurate. As has been mentioned numerous times already, avilo winning the game at that point would require a mistake from ImperialFist (Patton) and giving up the ramp would be giving up the best chance at forcing mistakes. This is obvious when you look at the game as Terran vs. Zerg instead of avilo vs. Fist. It was little more than two minutes real time following over two hours real-time from the start. Again, a petty offense that wouldn't merit a mention except people have learned from the American legal system that it's good to throw as much as possible at the accused. How does he take advantage of a mistake of Patton when he alt tabs this much lol. He would be fully focused on the game if he honestly thought he had a shot. | ||
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Spect8rCraft
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On July 17 2014 13:57 vult wrote: So we must wait to see if a lone Terran can make it through the Wildcard qualifier xD Our Ryung true god? | ||
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