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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1981
On June 23 2014 05:28 Heartland wrote:
Are people seriously thinking that race switching is overpowered now? And that 7-gates are so amazingly great?

as a Zerg Ladder Scrub i find 7gates are one of the easier things to hold, but i open speed all the time soooo
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1982
Stardustuuuuu
Neosteel Enthusiast
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1983
On June 23 2014 05:28 nkr wrote:
rub The_Templar for good luck

Don't do that he's just a child you'll get in trouble.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1984
On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG


I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that.

I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss


As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game.


In general you shouldn't be able to play a whole other race at a competitive level just by practicing it a few weeks. It devalues the players of that race. This seems like a big deal for a game that is already jokingly quoted as "dead game" and the race in question is already under fire for being considered OP. u_u
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1985
On June 23 2014 05:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG


I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that.

I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss


As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game.


I'm convinced I could memorize the Immortal/sentry all-in and pull it off as well as Par-

Wait

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1986
Pros that are happy that Scarlett won:

Taeja
Hyun
Nerchio
Harstem
Hitman
Miniraiser
Kane
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1987
On June 23 2014 05:28 nkr wrote:
rub The_Templar for good luck

Um… no thanks
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 20:29:43
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1988
On June 23 2014 05:28 Disarmed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:19 Heinsenzerg wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:17 Zealously wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:17 Jer99 wrote:
So now instead of calling protoss OP, you heard it from her that she practiced the shit out of it


You're telling me Protoss players need to practise?


"Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards."
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SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1989
LOL DRG got Crushed in roach in roach, his best strat and scarletts worst in zvz LOL
DRG fanboys. Scarlett to good.
Konranjyoutai
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1990
On June 23 2014 05:27 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:
On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG


I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that.

I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss


As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game.


Hahaha. Obviously she fucking won. 7-gates aren't OP, they're not even considered OP by people who think Protoss is OP. And how much of sc2 comes down to "just memorising a build"?


Considering every race but Protoss can't just throw down a pylon and have instant defenders advantage and put on non-stop pressure until you break, I'd say a lot of the game comes down to more than "Just memorizing a build".
Morrissey
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Germany55 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1991
Team Acer ‏@aceresport 3 Min.
.@AcerNerchio already messaged David Kim and linked him to Scarlett games. The Protoss-nerf-hope is real.
MarineKingPrime forever
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1992
VICTORY!

The world is better when every background has a chance.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 22 2014 20:29 GMT
#1993
I actually wanted to go to bed early

I'm glad I didn't
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WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#1994
Am I allowed to think that it is GOOD for SC2? I mean, isn't it cool that someone masters(ish) both races and can use them at will? It seems that if someone could do that they would have a huge advantage in the game and it would be actually stupid NOT to exploit match ups and maps. If we see players copy this it expands the game to unheard of places and makes the game multidimensional.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#1995
On June 23 2014 05:28 Heartland wrote:
Are people seriously thinking that race switching is overpowered now? And that 7-gates are so amazingly great?

7 gates aren't even that good DRG just did the TRUEjwa build which is particularly bad in that instance.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#1996
On June 23 2014 05:27 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:26 Paljas wrote:
this is actually hilarious.

i do hope tho that race switches during a match will be illegal in future tournaments

if you're good enough to win with multiple races you should be able to pick whichever one you want at any time imo

disagree, i dont want to watch race switches all the time because people think they can metagame each other.
if you want to switch races midseries, pick random
TL+ Member
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#1997
On June 23 2014 05:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 05:28 nkr wrote:
rub The_Templar for good luck

Um… no thanks


what makes you think you have a say in this?!
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#1998
On June 23 2014 05:27 DJHelium wrote:

Fake Nerchio is playing Cure atm
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Millenium
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#1999
On June 23 2014 05:29 stuchiu wrote:
Pros that are happy that Scarlett won:

Taeja
Hyun
Nerchio
Harstem
Hitman
Miniraiser
Kane

stephano
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Bohemian Groover
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom4 Posts
June 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#2000
If you didn't enjoy that game 2, then you really need help.
Nothing is impossible, just highly improbable.
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