★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
47%
★★★- Good game (4)
24%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
27%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
18%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
43%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
14%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (12)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
10%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
50%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6)
30%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
33%
★★★- Good game (3)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
17%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★- Good game (6)
75%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
20%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
13%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
31%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
38%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
19%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
75%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (4)
80%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
50%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★- Good game (2)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
25%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
25%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
- Nerchio is at ~ 5.2 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 35.51 % of the time Nerchio wins and their chances go up to ~ 11.16 %. ~ 64.49 % of the time Nerchio loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.91 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 99.88 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 70.91 % of the time San wins and their chances go up to ~ 99.99 %. ~ 29.09 % of the time San loses and their chances go down to ~ 99.6 %. ------------------------------------------------- - LiveZerg is at ~ 1.52 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 31.49 % of the time LiveZerg wins and their chances go up to ~ 4.21 %. ~ 68.51 % of the time LiveZerg loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.28 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 69.81 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 62.09 % of the time StarDust wins and their chances go up to ~ 82.4 %. ~ 37.91 % of the time StarDust loses and their chances go down to ~ 49.2 %.
On June 12 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote: Who thought that playing the last WCS on the opening day of the football world cup was a smart idea?
Do they overlap that much though? I don't care about football at all, so I don't know the starting time of that, but I'd assume, it would be in Brazil timezone, so later than WCS.
On June 12 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote: Who thought that playing the last WCS on the opening day of the football world cup was a smart idea?
Do they overlap that much though? I don't care about football at all, so I don't know the starting time of that, but I'd assume, it would be in Brazil timezone, so later than WCS.
The opening ceremony starts around 20:30 CET and the match starts at 22:00 CET. WCS usually is still running at that time I think.
WCS EU S2 Premier - Nerchio is at ~ 5.2 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 35.51 % of the time Nerchio wins and their chances go up to ~ 11.16 %. ~ 64.49 % of the time Nerchio loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.91 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 99.88 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 70.91 % of the time San wins and their chances go up to ~ 99.99 %. ~ 29.09 % of the time San loses and their chances go down to ~ 99.6 %. ------------------------------------------------- - LiveZerg is at ~ 1.52 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 31.49 % of the time LiveZerg wins and their chances go up to ~ 4.21 %. ~ 68.51 % of the time LiveZerg loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.28 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 69.81 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 62.09 % of the time StarDust wins and their chances go up to ~ 82.4 %. ~ 37.91 % of the time StarDust loses and their chances go down to ~ 49.2 %.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
47%
★★★- Good game (4)
24%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
18%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
43%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
14%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
18%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
43%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
14%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend LiveZerg vs StarDust Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On June 13 2014 01:23 Lorning wrote: vote in poll please :/
it would be dishonest of me since I didn't see the game
Just give it 3 stars no one will notice.
2. The answer is always 2.
But what if it were JD vs Has on polar night (5 star game obviously) and you just put 2 stars. That would be a crime.
But there could still be something better to do. There always is. Like hanging out with a Sheik and drunk drive his tanks with his imported blondes or something.
On June 13 2014 01:48 AlternativeEgo wrote: What a duo. Give them their own show.
Remember when Targa went full bm on Incontrol at that one Dreamhack? It wasn't even that BM but it seemed that way when the crowd all went, "OOHHHHHHHH"
On June 13 2014 01:46 Noonius wrote: dota players could do this?.. Targa is high as fuck, confirmed
of course dota splits are amazing. But dota players need 1 person per unit for the split. But on a more serious note, the splitting is one of the things that impressed me about dota players, because they do it so coordinated.
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
On June 13 2014 01:48 AlternativeEgo wrote: What a duo. Give them their own show.
Remember when Targa went full bm on Incontrol at that one Dreamhack? It wasn't even that BM but it seemed that way when the crowd all went, "OOHHHHHHHH"
Yeah he was like "i'm actually good at this game" and we're like...like you said
On June 13 2014 01:48 AlternativeEgo wrote: What a duo. Give them their own show.
Remember when Targa went full bm on Incontrol at that one Dreamhack? It wasn't even that BM but it seemed that way when the crowd all went, "OOHHHHHHHH"
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
On June 13 2014 01:48 AlternativeEgo wrote: What a duo. Give them their own show.
Remember when Targa went full bm on Incontrol at that one Dreamhack? It wasn't even that BM but it seemed that way when the crowd all went, "OOHHHHHHHH"
It was rachels fault for asking the question.
I thought she was pretty good I'm sad that she doesn't host that much SC2 anymore. I think she's hosting Hearthstone at DH this weekend.
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
Hearthstone is super professional you hater
"Hearthstone is worst esport card games are stupid"- literally word for word Shellshock
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
It did. SC2 is still part of the biggest esports events in the world.
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
I'm not 100% sure what you're getting at.
dedgaem
Yeah I know I wanted to see him say it outright. And hopefully get mod actioned for being annoying.
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
I'm not 100% sure what you're getting at.
That trying to be super professional didn't really do Sc2 any good, and we might be better off not to force geeks be anything but geeks. Go full casual!
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
You didn't enjoy the gun show?
Err no, way to much flab on show. They looked like a couple of tramps. A simple shirt and some jeans would have been a bit better
But it's freaking hot in Germany and they came straight from the waterpark. The whole thing was for fun anyway, no need to dress up.
Look kid. They just killed SC2 with their lack of professionalism. This is no time for jokes! Who would want to watch a game where professional players are allowed to horse around sometimes? Disgusting. Now if you excuse me, I'm off to watch the very exciting games of the PGA Tour while sipping wine.
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
I'm not 100% sure what you're getting at.
That trying to be super professional didn't really do Sc2 any good, and we might be better off not to force geeks be anything but geeks. Go full casual!
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
sc2 has left the days of trying to be the premier esports professional data gaming club behind, we might as well enjoy ourselves and have fun. Who can say no to some fun?
SC2 is still one of the more "professional" esports out there. Dota 2 and LoL are close, but beyond those three it gets really casual.
well that obviously didn't work out too well for us, did it?
I'm not 100% sure what you're getting at.
dedgaem
Yeah I know I wanted to see him say it outright. And hopefully get mod actioned for being annoying.
I am hurt, I never said such a thing :/ I was claiming being professional isn't always for the best
On June 13 2014 01:49 Topdoller wrote: This a joke...they could have at least dressed for this with something apropiate ..fuck me
You didn't enjoy the gun show?
Err no, way to much flab on show. They looked like a couple of tramps. A simple shirt and some jeans would have been a bit better
But it's freaking hot in Germany and they came straight from the waterpark. The whole thing was for fun anyway, no need to dress up.
Look kid. They just killed SC2 with their lack of professionalism. This is no time for jokes! Who would want to watch a game where professional players are allowed to horse around sometimes? Disgusting. Now if you excuse me, I'm off to watch the very exciting games of the PGA Tour while sipping wine.
Now I see it, they almost killed esports and should apologize. Thanks!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (12)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (12)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On June 13 2014 02:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Is Nerchio destroying San? I really wish I could watch right now.
Held San's aggression with a couple of drone pulls and killed San's eco with mutas from hidden spire. Then had 80 supply of hydras vs 20 of gateway units and a-moved
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
50%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6)
30%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
50%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (6)
30%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Nerchio has the capacity to tilt an opponent and I think both of them used to BM each other on the ladder. Then Nerchio won an online cup beating ForGG with 4 early roaches pushes in a row in the grand final. ForGG didn't forget.
On June 13 2014 02:22 stuchiu wrote: I remember when people used to argue to me roaches were the way to stop sangate, the fools.
They were for a bit, but that was in the roach max era of WoL
The sangate didn't exist in WoL. 4gate +1 off FFE is completely different (and way less scary)
Truth, I just was reveling in nostalgia of busting down the front door and having a single, overchargeless VR or two standing against a near max roach ball.
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Your vote: Recommend San vs Nerchio Game 3?
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On June 13 2014 02:38 Topdoller wrote: Its looking like a Korean 1/2 again today
Might be. But I think San was the favorite anyway, the biggest non-korean-advancement-potential was/is Nerchio beating Stardust, so we'll see, how it goes in the final match, should they be playing.
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
It's not a book if all you write in it is "10pool".
Nothing can match Protoss bullshit, sry
How to convince a Protoss to nexus first. Then 10 pool him. Then convince a Protoss to delay the MSc. Then Roach ling rush. Then build a spire in the main and proxy a hydra den and kill him with roach hydra. Then build a hydra den and proxy a spire and kill him with mutas Then go 3 hath pure slow ling once they've convinced they don't need a MSC core that early again. Then hide 4 overseers and go mass roach and let them scout mass roach and then show up and contaminate the robo and attack.
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
So what would that include? The hyvaa early pool, Sniper's BL/infestor, Shine's hydra busts
What else?
Has proxy tempest + cannon rush + proxy nexus in your natural
That belongs in the Book of bullshit what the fuck. And i DID link the very first proxy tempest game he played in there (the one vs MMA on WW).
There can be crossover. There are protoss players in the League of Injustice. Swagho is their coach
No, never. The glorious warriors of Aiur only write their strategies in the Book of Bullshit. The filthy bugs can't write anyway so that's not even worth discussing.
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
It's not a book if all you write in it is "10pool".
Nothing can match Protoss bullshit, sry
How to convince a Protoss to nexus first. Then 10 pool him. Then convince a Protoss to delay the MSc. Then Roach ling rush. Then build a spire in the main and proxy a hydra den and kill him with roach hydra. Then build a hydra den and proxy a spire and kill him with mutas Then go 3 hath pure slow ling once they've convinced they don't need a MSC core that early again. Then hide 4 overseers and go mass roach and let them scout mass roach and then show up and contaminate the robo and attack.
You know me, I just make do.
Then I proxy hatch them in their main. Then I go nydus queen roach 2 base. Then I go 3 hach mass speedling and pray they dont have hold position on (Which in my experience is about 1/2 the time in Masters in all 3 servers)
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
So what would that include? The hyvaa early pool, Sniper's BL/infestor, Shine's hydra busts
What else?
Has proxy tempest + cannon rush + proxy nexus in your natural
That belongs in the Book of bullshit what the fuck. And i DID link the very first proxy tempest game he played in there (the one vs MMA on WW).
There can be crossover. There are protoss players in the League of Injustice. Swagho is their coach
No, never. The glorious warriors of Aiur only write their strategies in the Book of Bullshit. The filthy bugs can't write anyway so that's not even worth discussing.
Still so bitter about Naniwa losing to double 10 pools by Soulkey D:
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
So what would that include? The hyvaa early pool, Sniper's BL/infestor, Shine's hydra busts
What else?
Has proxy tempest + cannon rush + proxy nexus in your natural
That belongs in the Book of bullshit what the fuck. And i DID link the very first proxy tempest game he played in there (the one vs MMA on WW).
There can be crossover. There are protoss players in the League of Injustice. Swagho is their coach
No, never. The glorious warriors of Aiur only write their strategies in the Book of Bullshit. The filthy bugs can't write anyway so that's not even worth discussing.
Still so bitter about Naniwa losing to double 10 pools by Soulkey D:
Not particularly. My hatred for Zerg is pretty constant tbh.
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
So what would that include? The hyvaa early pool, Sniper's BL/infestor, Shine's hydra busts
What else?
Has proxy tempest + cannon rush + proxy nexus in your natural
That belongs in the Book of bullshit what the fuck. And i DID link the very first proxy tempest game he played in there (the one vs MMA on WW).
There can be crossover. There are protoss players in the League of Injustice. Swagho is their coach
No, never. The glorious warriors of Aiur only write their strategies in the Book of Bullshit. The filthy bugs can't write anyway so that's not even worth discussing.
Still so bitter about Naniwa losing to double 10 pools by Soulkey D:
Not particularly. My hatred for Zerg is pretty constant tbh.
On June 13 2014 02:36 Teoita wrote: Writing part of the the Great Book is by far the best thing i've ever done in sc2
Maybe I should write the Book of Injustice.
So what would that include? The hyvaa early pool, Sniper's BL/infestor, Shine's hydra busts
What else?
Has proxy tempest + cannon rush + proxy nexus in your natural
That belongs in the Book of bullshit what the fuck. And i DID link the very first proxy tempest game he played in there (the one vs MMA on WW).
There can be crossover. There are protoss players in the League of Injustice. Swagho is their coach
No, never. The glorious warriors of Aiur only write their strategies in the Book of Bullshit. The filthy bugs can't write anyway so that's not even worth discussing.
Still so bitter about Naniwa losing to double 10 pools by Soulkey D:
Not particularly. My hatred for Zerg is pretty constant tbh.
How come Billowy's proxy nexus recall 2 base all in build from Waystation hasn't been added to the Great Book of Protoss Bullshit? That game was incredible
On June 13 2014 02:56 Shellshock wrote: How come Billowy's proxy nexus recall 2 base all in build from Waystation hasn't been added to the Great Book of Protoss Bullshit? That game was incredible
We're gonna add your game 2 vs. seeker as a strategy for when you accidentally hit terran on the race selection screen.
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Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?
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LiveZerg missed a manual Baneling explosion in the early game which could have stabilized him a lot sooner imo. Terrible attack though, should have played defensive to 200/200 and relied upon the upgrades.
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On June 13 2014 03:20 CruelZeratul wrote: LiveZerg missed a manual Baneling explosion in the early game which could have stabilized him a lot sooner imo. Terrible attack though, should have played defensive to 200/200 and relied upon the upgrades.
Nerchio had a faster 3rd and more drones so playing defensive was impossible.
Dat' hype. Nerchio saw it coming in plenty of time, had an overlord over the fight the entire time so he could see exactly how to micro, and it's not tough to make spines. Nothing Nerchio had to do to hold was difficult, other than scouting it, since the attack was entirely dependent on not being scouted on time.
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Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
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Nerchio had no business being up in the upper left portion of the map with his army. It's a position that can't be reinforced, can be easily segmented off and killed, and it's not even a good attacking position.
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On June 13 2014 03:46 diverzee wrote: Kind of happy about Nerchio being out. I found his bm against Stephano after barely beating him distasteful. Edit: can't spell.
I found it funny. Harping on about being "retired" when you are clearly not does serve you a good portion of smirk™
I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
I think part of it was that Blizzard had the philosophy that Koreans moving to the other regions would help raise the level of play of everyone else.
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
Because without koreans it would be pointless to have EU/AM versions.
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
I think part of it was that Blizzard had the philosophy that Koreans moving to the other regions would help raise the level of play of everyone else.
It's working too, not as much as they want, but it is noticeable.
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
I think part of it was that Blizzard had the philosophy that Koreans moving to the other regions would help raise the level of play of everyone else.
It's working too, not as much as they want, but it is noticeable.
I agree. I think it's also good that most of the EU Koreans are actually living in Europe now. I think quite a few North American players have improved as well since the Koreans started playing there
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
I think part of it was that Blizzard had the philosophy that Koreans moving to the other regions would help raise the level of play of everyone else.
It's working too, not as much as they want, but it is noticeable.
I agree. I think it's also good that most of the EU Koreans are actually living in Europe now. I think quite a few North American players have improved as well since the Koreans started playing there
As far as I know all the good NA players got good by abandoning the NA server to play on KR and EU.
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
I think part of it was that Blizzard had the philosophy that Koreans moving to the other regions would help raise the level of play of everyone else.
It's working too, not as much as they want, but it is noticeable.
I agree. I think it's also good that most of the EU Koreans are actually living in Europe now. I think quite a few North American players have improved as well since the Koreans started playing there
As far as I know all the good NA players got good by abandoning the NA server to play on KR and EU.
On June 13 2014 03:46 diverzee wrote: Kind of happy about Nerchio being out. I found his bm against Stephano after barely beating him distasteful. Edit: can't spell.
I found it funny. Harping on about being "retired" when you are clearly not does serve you a good portion of smirk™
Yes, I can understand that. However, I just feel that if you actually win you should show a bit of dignity, take the high road, and not bm the loser on twitter. Also, he lost the first series, and barely won the second, which is why I don't think his victory warranted acting cocky about winning.
On June 13 2014 03:53 Logros wrote: I'm not really familiar with the WCS setup, but can someone explain to me the point of US/EU/KR versions if it's mostly Koreans participating and winning anyway?
I think part of it was that Blizzard had the philosophy that Koreans moving to the other regions would help raise the level of play of everyone else.
It's working too, not as much as they want, but it is noticeable.
I agree. I think it's also good that most of the EU Koreans are actually living in Europe now. I think quite a few North American players have improved as well since the Koreans started playing there
As far as I know all the good NA players got good by abandoning the NA server to play on KR and EU.
Having the earlier Nexus, but instead of going for strong, defensive Immortals San goes for Blink Stalkers. I don't get that decision. Well, now I got it :D
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Noticed the caster told its "offline" tournament.. did BLIZZARD pushed thisidea that these are "offline" tournaments? no lan, no offline for my opinion..
On June 13 2014 04:37 webas wrote: Noticed the caster told its "offline" tournament.. did BLIZZARD pushed thisidea that these are "offline" tournaments? no lan, no offline for my opinion..
I guess technically, but the players are at a live venue, so calling it offline seems reasonable.
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On June 13 2014 04:43 mikumegurine wrote: 6/8 koreans top 8
next season try for 8/8 koreans, Korea Hwaiting!
2 previously season there were 3 european in top8. Looks like this season there will be 2. Yesterday we were so close to get that third european player but no
I think next season there will be 3 european also in top8!
I used to do forge behind mineral line (due 6-7pool). It was hilarious when some zergs though I was going to do (pulled alot drones even tho I was faking cannon rush)hardcore 1base cannon rush :D (I just expanded)
On June 13 2014 04:43 mikumegurine wrote: 6/8 koreans top 8
next season try for 8/8 koreans, Korea Hwaiting!
2 previously season there were 3 european in top8. Looks like this season there will be 2. Yesterday we were so close to get that third european player but no
I think next season there will be 3 european also in top8!
Not only Yesterday, but also Monday. I think, that we are getting pretty consistent results of 2-4 foreigners in the future, AFAIK no koreans plan to switch to EU in the near future, so the ones playing this are the ones to be expected in the future, possibly minus Golden, since he has to deal with his military stuff soon.
On June 13 2014 04:43 mikumegurine wrote: 6/8 koreans top 8
next season try for 8/8 koreans, Korea Hwaiting!
2 previously season there were 3 european in top8. Looks like this season there will be 2. Yesterday we were so close to get that third european player but no
I think next season there will be 3 european also in top8!
Not only Yesterday, but also Monday. I think, that we are getting pretty consistent results of 2-4 foreigners in the future, AFAIK no koreans plan to switch to EU in the near future, so the ones playing this are the ones to be expected in the future, possibly minus Golden, since he has to deal with his military stuff soon.
Sarscri is coming to the mYi teamhouse so I don't know if he's going to compete in EU S3
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On June 13 2014 04:43 mikumegurine wrote: 6/8 koreans top 8
next season try for 8/8 koreans, Korea Hwaiting!
2 previously season there were 3 european in top8. Looks like this season there will be 2. Yesterday we were so close to get that third european player but no
I think next season there will be 3 european also in top8!
Not only Yesterday, but also Monday. I think, that we are getting pretty consistent results of 2-4 foreigners in the future, AFAIK no koreans plan to switch to EU in the near future, so the ones playing this are the ones to be expected in the future, possibly minus Golden, since he has to deal with his military stuff soon.
Sarscri is coming to the mYi teamhouse so I don't know if he's going to compete in EU S3
Yeah, right, forgot about him, he is not in GSL currently, so he's probably going to play in EU as well.
I don't get the bashing on ZvZ, it is a way more interesting matchup in terms of army movement and testing of multitasking/momentum reads. Especially compared to ZvP where... well the less said the better.
Very disappointed with Stardust, I missed 90 seconds of the Brazil game because of him. LiveZerg really needs to take a look at his ZvP, he looked completely lost in this match up
Good job Blizzard, please keep wasting money on this retarded tournament format. Either you make region lock or you let everyone participate. This is so bad.
Instead of one great tournament with all Koreans we now have Koreans split over 3 tournaments and foreigners still dont win shit. Yay!
Welmu has best shot to win WCS EU for a foreigner.
Vortix has no shot to make it to finals. San will beat him free and he doesn't even have guaranteed win vs Golden. Welmu is quite bad, he can beat forGG because it's TvP, but these are best of 5's and he can't get lucky vs 2-3 koreans in a row.
Overall, foreigners have about a .03% shot at winning WCS EU. Koreans dominate as usual. Move on to the next tourney.
On June 13 2014 08:57 Beastgief wrote: Welmu has best shot to win WCS EU for a foreigner.
Vortix has no shot to make it to finals. San will beat him free and he doesn't even have guaranteed win vs Golden. Welmu is quite bad, he can beat forGG because it's TvP, but these are best of 5's and he can't get lucky vs 2-3 koreans in a row.
Overall, foreigners have about a .03% shot at winning WCS EU. Koreans dominate as usual. Move on to the next tourney.
Let's see...ZvZ is Golden's worst matchup statistically, MC has a better chance of beating San than he does of beating Vortix, Welmu tore through Yoda in the Round of 16, and his best matchup is PvP by far.
Certainly sounds like there's a good chance for a foreigner in the finals to me. And the Top 2 players, regardless of nationality, get to play in an offline tournament in Korea. That's what I'm looking for.
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