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No GSL spoilers please, some of the people tuning in to HSC did not have the chance to watch GSL yet
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#221
Random is clearly UP. Map hackers rarely get number 1 on ladders and most of them can't even make GM. Clearly, map hacks need buffs, too.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#222
On June 06 2014 22:53 ThomasjServo wrote:
TvT would be sick.

There you go...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#223
On June 06 2014 22:53 kaykoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 22:51 Tenks wrote:
Lol this is hilarious. It seems like this is how all my TvR goes when the Random rolls Zerg. They just make a massive flood of 200/200 ling/bling and I die a terrible death.


And how is this different from someone just picking zerg ....



It isn't a very common and more a fringe strategy. But it seems Random Zerg loves to do it.
Wat
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#224
if he beat him in tvt now, the hype train will go on full speed
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#225
Random players really make things more exciting
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#226
#Ballooned
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#227
On June 06 2014 22:46 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 22:44 Squat wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:42 playa wrote:
Didn't see games, but hard to blame any toss for losing to balloon. It's a waste of time playing vs random as Toss. Hardly a real game or worth practicing. Unfortunate for pros if balloon ends up in more tournaments.

Random is fun, pros can adapt.


Yes, adapt to starting off every game at a disadvantage and with an inferior build. Yeah, maybe if they're playing amateurs or lesser skilled players... Maybe they can adapt to playing against maphackers too. Doesn't mean it's fair. Surprised anyone practices against random, as it's so rare to face them in tournaments.


It doesn't seem like you get much of your "inferior build" going before you realise what race your opponent is.

I can't see it being that big of a deal. It's not like you find out what race they are at the 10min mark, and if you do, its your own fault.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 06 2014 13:55 GMT
#228
On June 06 2014 22:53 Squat wrote:
Is someone seriously complaining about Random being unfair?

You mean you DON'T think the least played option in the game with the least representation and literally no tournament results is the best?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 06 2014 13:55 GMT
#229
On June 06 2014 22:54 playa wrote:
Random is clearly UP. Map hackers rarely get number 1 on ladders and most of them can't even make GM. Clearly, map hacks need buffs, too.

i am not sure wtf this is supposed to tell me
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
June 06 2014 13:55 GMT
#230
buumer!
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
June 06 2014 13:55 GMT
#231
On June 06 2014 22:54 polpot wrote:
if he beat him in tvt now, the hype train will go on full speed


If bomber crushes him in TvT now it would totally prove that zerg is overpowered
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 06 2014 13:56 GMT
#232
On June 06 2014 22:55 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 22:54 playa wrote:
Random is clearly UP. Map hackers rarely get number 1 on ladders and most of them can't even make GM. Clearly, map hacks need buffs, too.

i am not sure wtf this is supposed to tell me


I'm glad it wasn't just me
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 06 2014 13:56 GMT
#233
On June 06 2014 22:53 Squat wrote:
Is someone seriously complaining about Random being unfair?

Someone was and I think we all had a good laugh.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
June 06 2014 13:57 GMT
#234
On June 06 2014 22:55 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 22:54 polpot wrote:
if he beat him in tvt now, the hype train will go on full speed


If bomber crushes him in TvT now it would totally prove that zerg is overpowered

:D but TvZ has never been his best match-up
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 06 2014 13:57 GMT
#235
On June 06 2014 22:55 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 22:53 Squat wrote:
Is someone seriously complaining about Random being unfair?

You mean you DON'T think the least played option in the game with the least representation and literally no tournament results is the best?

Weeds are clearly OP vs lawn movers, nerf pls.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 06 2014 13:57 GMT
#236
dat reaper control...
Zest fanboy.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 06 2014 13:58 GMT
#237
On June 06 2014 22:54 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 22:53 kaykoose wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:51 Tenks wrote:
Lol this is hilarious. It seems like this is how all my TvR goes when the Random rolls Zerg. They just make a massive flood of 200/200 ling/bling and I die a terrible death.


And how is this different from someone just picking zerg ....



It isn't a very common and more a fringe strategy. But it seems Random Zerg loves to do it.

Massing Ling/bling/muta is exactly what the matchup is about for Zerg (unless you came from the house of the gods, TSL)
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 06 2014 13:58 GMT
#238
Bomber doesn't care
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
June 06 2014 13:58 GMT
#239
Bomber holding Balloon's build order advantage opening in TvT. Good
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 13:59:44
June 06 2014 13:59 GMT
#240
WCS Predictor says (updated after GSL, not counting today's HSC results)

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [Bomber, ToD, Ret, Balloon in HomeStory…] +
HomeStory Cup 9
- kr Bomber is at ~ 39.64 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 79.28 % of the time kr Bomber wins and their chances go up to ~ 41.97 %.
~ 20.72 % of the time kr Bomber loses and their chances go down to ~ 30.72 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- fr ToD is at ~ 4.28 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 57.46 % of the time fr ToD wins and their chances go up to ~ 4.7 %.
~ 42.54 % of the time fr ToD loses and their chances go down to ~ 3.71 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- nl Ret is at ~ 0.01 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 26.29 % of the time nl Ret wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.01 %.
~ 73.71 % of the time nl Ret loses and their chances go down to ~ 0 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Balloon is at ~ 0.01 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 36.97 % of the time kr Balloon wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.01 %.
~ 63.03 % of the time kr Balloon loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [YoDa, MaNa, Jaedong, Socke in HomeStor…] +
HomeStory Cup 9
- kr YoDa is at ~ 5.88 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 51.02 % of the time kr YoDa wins and their chances go up to ~ 6.69 %.
~ 48.98 % of the time kr YoDa loses and their chances go down to ~ 5.04 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- pl MaNa is at ~ 4.12 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 47.33 % of the time pl MaNa wins and their chances go up to ~ 4.75 %.
~ 52.67 % of the time pl MaNa loses and their chances go down to ~ 3.55 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Jaedong is at ~ 42.79 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 66.92 % of the time kr Jaedong wins and their chances go up to ~ 48.62 %.
~ 33.08 % of the time kr Jaedong loses and their chances go down to ~ 31.01 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- de Socke is at ~ 0.01 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 34.73 % of the time de Socke wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.01 %.
~ 65.27 % of the time de Socke loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [Stephano, HasuObs, Bunny, Armani in Ho…] +
HomeStory Cup 9
- fr Stephano is at ~ 0.43 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 47.42 % of the time fr Stephano wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.6 %.
~ 52.58 % of the time fr Stephano loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.29 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- de HasuObs is at ~ 0.03 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 48.99 % of the time de HasuObs wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.04 %.
~ 51.01 % of the time de HasuObs loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- dk Bunny is at ~ 3.33 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 56.12 % of the time dk Bunny wins and their chances go up to ~ 4.03 %.
~ 43.88 % of the time dk Bunny loses and their chances go down to ~ 2.44 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Armani is at ~ 0.03 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 47.47 % of the time kr Armani wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.05 %.
~ 52.53 % of the time kr Armani loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.02 %.

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [TaeJa, Scarlett, roof, Patience in Hom…] +
HomeStory Cup 9
- kr TaeJa is at ~ 63.06 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 66.87 % of the time kr TaeJa wins and their chances go up to ~ 67.86 %.
~ 33.13 % of the time kr TaeJa loses and their chances go down to ~ 53.37 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- ca Scarlett is at ~ 0.25 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 46.97 % of the time ca Scarlett wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.36 %.
~ 53.03 % of the time ca Scarlett loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.16 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- de roof is at ~ 0.01 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 24.05 % of the time de roof wins and their chances go up to ~ 0.01 %.
~ 75.95 % of the time de roof loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.01 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr Patience is at ~ 7.7 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 62.11 % of the time kr Patience wins and their chances go up to ~ 9.08 %.
~ 37.89 % of the time kr Patience loses and their chances go down to ~ 5.45 %.


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