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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 03 2014 13:09 GMT
#81
On June 03 2014 22:07 Jer99 wrote:
Smallest LR thread ever? What the hell happened I was hoping to catch a game at this time


Byul fucked up in holding a 10 pool/bane build and was behind all game. Couldn't comeback.

Oz went for a risky stargate build and didn't prepare well at all for Super's counter 3-gate despite scouting and being scouted. Died easily.

Lucky went for a risky double gold on Habitation Station. It didn't work very well..
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18417 Posts
June 03 2014 13:11 GMT
#82
On June 03 2014 22:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:03 sharkie wrote:
To win playoffs you need to finish 1st or 2nd pretty much. Otherwise its impossible to prepare enough builds to win it all. There is just way way too little time to prepare.


Ah, you were talking likelihoods.

Well, I'm not going to sugarcoat this. It looks quite grim, with CJ likely getting that 4th spot. Still, it's not quite as absurd as it may seem for IM to make it.


Yeah unfortunately....
this pl system is just too bad, giving 40 extra points to 1st place finisher is just way too much. I dont know what they were thinking about this. Even as a CJ fan I wish the last round would have been more open (with fear of dropping out of top4) to have a more interesting round4 but its just not possible :/
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 13:26:35
June 03 2014 13:24 GMT
#83
On June 03 2014 22:11 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 03 2014 22:03 sharkie wrote:
To win playoffs you need to finish 1st or 2nd pretty much. Otherwise its impossible to prepare enough builds to win it all. There is just way way too little time to prepare.


Ah, you were talking likelihoods.

Well, I'm not going to sugarcoat this. It looks quite grim, with CJ likely getting that 4th spot. Still, it's not quite as absurd as it may seem for IM to make it.


Yeah unfortunately....
this pl system is just too bad, giving 40 extra points to 1st place finisher is just way too much. I dont know what they were thinking about this. Even as a CJ fan I wish the last round would have been more open (with fear of dropping out of top4) to have a more interesting round4 but its just not possible :/


Wouldn't have changed much though, KT, SKT and Jin Air would be in the top 4 regardless, and it's very fair to give the winner of the play-offs something over and above the round robin. If they wouldn't give extra points, why even bother. The fact that any team could potentially still be first and get those 40 points is the only reason why all other teams could in theory still pass CJ in the rankings.

The reason we have an uneventful round 4 is there were 4 teams who clearly performed better throughout the other 3 rounds than the other 4 teams. KT and Jin Air made the play-offs all 3 times and both won once, so they deserve top 4. SKT was barely edged out in round 2, but had dominating performances in round 1 and especially round 3 so they deserve a play-off spot. CJ had a pretty bad start, but rebounded quickly and had 2 solid performances in round 2 and 3. Samsung did well in round 1 but fell off, MVP is inconsistent, and IM/Prime didn't even make the play-offs once.

Whatever (reasonably fair) system you could come up with, the top 4 would be the same.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 03 2014 13:32 GMT
#84
On June 03 2014 22:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:07 Jer99 wrote:
Smallest LR thread ever? What the hell happened I was hoping to catch a game at this time


Byul fucked up in holding a 10 pool/bane build and was behind all game. Couldn't comeback.

Oz went for a risky stargate build and didn't prepare well at all for Super's counter 3-gate despite scouting and being scouted. Died easily.

Lucky went for a risky double gold on Habitation Station. It didn't work very well..


He tried to get lucky but it didn't work
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 13:35:57
June 03 2014 13:35 GMT
#85
Lol MVP wins something!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 03 2014 13:48 GMT
#86
Maybe IM's coach will learn to use his strongest players
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 03 2014 14:50 GMT
#87
R.I.P my FPL.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 03 2014 15:43 GMT
#88
On June 03 2014 22:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:07 Jer99 wrote:
Smallest LR thread ever? What the hell happened I was hoping to catch a game at this time


Byul fucked up in holding a 10 pool/bane build and was behind all game. Couldn't comeback.

Oz went for a risky stargate build and didn't prepare well at all for Super's counter 3-gate despite scouting and being scouted. Died easily.

Lucky went for a risky double gold on Habitation Station. It didn't work very well..

Boy am I glad I slept through my alarm and got some sleep instead of watching this. It sounds like it would have been painful...
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 03 2014 16:16 GMT
#89
My strategy of going IM heavy early because of them facing Prime and MVP and then looking to trade them away seems to have backfired
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18417 Posts
June 03 2014 16:17 GMT
#90
On June 04 2014 01:16 Shellshock wrote:
My strategy of going IM heavy early because of them facing Prime and MVP and then looking to trade them away seems to have backfired


I wanted to do the same with SKT players and getting CJ players...
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 03 2014 16:30 GMT
#91
That's what you get for trying new players (Lucky in this case).
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
June 03 2014 19:27 GMT
#92
Yay, a much needed sweep to bounce back. Keep it going.
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imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 03 2014 19:39 GMT
#93
This LR confirms how much people want to watch PvPvZvZ.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18417 Posts
June 03 2014 19:47 GMT
#94
On June 04 2014 04:39 imrusty269 wrote:
This LR confirms how much people want to watch PvPvZvZ.


Race matchups weren't the reason...
It's more of a team/player matchup problem
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
June 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#95
On June 03 2014 22:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe IM's coach will learn to use his strongest players

Maybe Prime will send out a starting lineup of Creator, MKP, Leenock and Byun.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 03 2014 21:37 GMT
#96
On June 04 2014 06:29 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe IM's coach will learn to use his strongest players

Maybe Prime will send out a starting lineup of Creator, MKP, Leenock and Byun.

DrPandaPhD said that Leenock is in Taiwan for most of the time (I figured he probably knows since he's the leading Leenock fanboy) so we probably won't see him too often unless he's back in Korea.
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