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[ATC] yoeFW vs mouz, Playday 8, Season 3 - Page 7

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#121
so playoffs matchups will be Liquid vs mouz and Acer vs Axiom? Should be pretty good. Sad that neither myi nor yoefw made it
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 03 2014 20:21 GMT
#122
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 03 2014 20:31 GMT
#123
On June 04 2014 05:21 Boucot wrote:
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !


You can't add players for the playoffs
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 03 2014 20:59 GMT
#124
On June 04 2014 04:50 sharkie wrote:
wow is this the biggest achievement by a foreign team (no Korean players) ever?

Technically Dear did play 5 games for them so I dunno if it counts.
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 03 2014 21:15 GMT
#125
On June 04 2014 05:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 04:50 sharkie wrote:
wow is this the biggest achievement by a foreign team (no Korean players) ever?

Technically Dear did play 5 games for them so I dunno if it counts.

He was never part of a won CW though. Mouz went 8-2 without Dear and 0-1 with him. If we count every game, he played as lost, Mouz would still make the playoffs, just with 8-3/+9 instead of 8-3/+12. I'd say, that it counts.
Enstein
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 21:51:27
June 03 2014 21:45 GMT
#126
Congrats to Mouz and to Starbuck! Really happy that they got to the play-offs, getting ahead of EG, Mill, MYI and yoe Flash Wolves. A very impressive achievement already even if they won't make it to the podium.
Still hope for another run like in the 1st IPL Team Arena Challenge when Mouz took out Millenium and Slayers in the winners bracket and coL.MVP in the Losers' Finals. They even won the 1st match of the Grand Final vs. QIM (an all-kill by ThorZaIN).
Rooting for MaNa, Snute and Bunny. Europe holds!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 03 2014 22:27 GMT
#127
On June 04 2014 05:31 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 05:21 Boucot wrote:
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !


You can't add players for the playoffs


well they didnt REMOVE him then xD why "add" ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 03 2014 22:30 GMT
#128
On June 04 2014 07:27 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 05:31 nkr wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:21 Boucot wrote:
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !


You can't add players for the playoffs


well they didnt REMOVE him then xD why "add" ?


He left the team and considering how super strict the admins have been with punishing other teams, letting vortix play even though hes not a part of the team would be spitting everyone else in the face
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 22:35:54
June 03 2014 22:35 GMT
#129
On June 04 2014 04:50 sharkie wrote:
wow is this the biggest achievement by a foreign team (no Korean players) ever?


Well they had a lot of good fortune along the way but yeah, beating yoe Flash Wolves today to seal a play-off spot is certainly an incredible result for them so congratulations to them. I really hope VortiX can play for them in the play-offs so they have enough players and are more competitive.

Oh and Starbuck....what a great player he is developing into. He may have dropped out of Challenger but in the ATC he is performing incredibly well, probably the most in-form foreigner in the ATC aside from Dayshi.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 03 2014 22:36 GMT
#130
On June 04 2014 07:30 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:27 Drake wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:31 nkr wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:21 Boucot wrote:
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !


You can't add players for the playoffs


well they didnt REMOVE him then xD why "add" ?


He left the team and considering how super strict the admins have been with punishing other teams, letting vortix play even though hes not a part of the team would be spitting everyone else in the face

no.
On June 04 2014 02:03 Tidus Mino wrote:
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On June 04 2014 02:00 Shellshock wrote:
If mouz wins they deserve it. I just feel like the playoffs are going to be disappointing if they have to forfeit maps as a 3 man team


Vortix has agreed to help us out in the playoffs if his new team allows it. Which I hope they do.

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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 00:10 GMT
#131
On June 04 2014 07:36 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:30 nkr wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:27 Drake wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:31 nkr wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:21 Boucot wrote:
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !


You can't add players for the playoffs


well they didnt REMOVE him then xD why "add" ?


He left the team and considering how super strict the admins have been with punishing other teams, letting vortix play even though hes not a part of the team would be spitting everyone else in the face

no.
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 02:03 Tidus Mino wrote:
On June 04 2014 02:00 Shellshock wrote:
If mouz wins they deserve it. I just feel like the playoffs are going to be disappointing if they have to forfeit maps as a 3 man team


Vortix has agreed to help us out in the playoffs if his new team allows it. Which I hope they do.



I imagine most teams would not be ok with that. If you aren't paying a player and he's not contracted, he shouldn't be playing for you, period. I'm certainly not ok with it. If you want a player for your team, then hire him for your team, ex-players do not count.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 04 2014 00:35 GMT
#132
my guess is if the mouz' manager said that, he had an agreement from the admins before
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
June 04 2014 00:48 GMT
#133
On June 04 2014 09:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:36 Yhamm wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:30 nkr wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:27 Drake wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:31 nkr wrote:
On June 04 2014 05:21 Boucot wrote:
Yeah mouz ! So glad ! I hope VortiX will be able to help them in the playoffs. Rooting for them anyway !


You can't add players for the playoffs


well they didnt REMOVE him then xD why "add" ?


He left the team and considering how super strict the admins have been with punishing other teams, letting vortix play even though hes not a part of the team would be spitting everyone else in the face

no.
On June 04 2014 02:03 Tidus Mino wrote:
On June 04 2014 02:00 Shellshock wrote:
If mouz wins they deserve it. I just feel like the playoffs are going to be disappointing if they have to forfeit maps as a 3 man team


Vortix has agreed to help us out in the playoffs if his new team allows it. Which I hope they do.



I imagine most teams would not be ok with that. If you aren't paying a player and he's not contracted, he shouldn't be playing for you, period. I'm certainly not ok with it. If you want a player for your team, then hire him for your team, ex-players do not count.


Have to agree on this, i know this sucks for Mouz but that is hardly the fault of ATC or the other teams. No Mecenary, period
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2014 00:59 GMT
#134
On June 04 2014 09:35 Yhamm wrote:
my guess is if the mouz' manager said that, he had an agreement from the admins before


And if that went through without other teams being consulted then there will be a discussion to be had. I will ask and find out what has happened.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Enstein
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 07:36:47
June 04 2014 07:35 GMT
#135
Really unfortunate that Starbuck lost to CranK. Axiom would have been eliminated and we wouldn't have to deal with the constant whining from Crot4le and all this shit from TB. They already fucked up in Season 1 not being able to attend the playoffs. It is for the organisers to take a decision on this matter and definitely not up to them.
Rooting for MaNa, Snute and Bunny. Europe holds!
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
June 04 2014 10:35 GMT
#136
On June 04 2014 16:35 Enstein wrote:
Really unfortunate that Starbuck lost to CranK. Axiom would have been eliminated and we wouldn't have to deal with the constant whining from Crot4le and all this shit from TB. They already fucked up in Season 1 not being able to attend the playoffs. It is for the organisers to take a decision on this matter and definitely not up to them.


Hahaha whining? Axiom are in the play-offs and Alicia won his group. I couldn't be happier. And how is this 'shit' from TB? He is perfectly justified in not liking this because the rules are the rules are all the other teams have abided by them.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 04 2014 10:56 GMT
#137
Admins have been very consistent in being harsh against teams when it suits them. XMG and Bountyhunters (sponsors and players based in germany) got away with bending the rules to no ends. If another german based team gets away with playing with players who aren't in the team then they should just stop doing this tournament all together.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 04 2014 11:01 GMT
#138
He is registered in ATC as a mouz player so I can see how one could make a case for him to continue and play the season out. The "he's no longer a mouz player" defense is kinda strong though.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
June 04 2014 11:05 GMT
#139
or maybe if teams have a problem with the way ATC is run they are free to not participate.
Could people for once respect the authority of the admins please? Its not your tournament and you're in no position to weigh in on the decision.

It's always the teams that get the tournament in trouble. Teams are not reading the rules thoroughly when joining the league, teams disbanding mid season, a group of players sign themselves up as a team, when they're not a team, teams try to hire mercenaries, when mercenaries are forbidden, teams releasing players right before the playoffs so they dont have enough players left to compete.. How are you supposed to run a tournament properly if everyone's causing issues all the time and put you in those awkward controversial positions.

and then everyone feels entitled to an opinion on that matter. Just let the admins do their job and mind your own business. All this lobbying is getting on my nerves.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 04 2014 11:25 GMT
#140
On June 04 2014 20:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
He is registered in ATC as a mouz player so I can see how one could make a case for him to continue and play the season out. The "he's no longer a mouz player" defense is kinda strong though.


I guess they should use Dear as well to make sure they beat Liquid ;P
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