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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#381
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#382
Heart is doing everything right. I think this is the best form I've ever seen him in.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#383
On May 29 2014 08:50 Jer99 wrote:
I normally don't comment much in LR threads either as I have only 1 screen but there is good content in here tonight

Yeah I don't know how I do this with one monitor, I need a sick game for me to look away from here for long.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#384
I'm just making angry spam posts because the bad builds rustle my jimmies.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 28 2014 23:52 GMT
#385
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly

Who said roaches suck? There was like a month in 2010 where people weren't quite with them, and that was after the supply change from 1 to 2.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
May 28 2014 23:52 GMT
#386
I know Heart's always been good vs zerg but I wonder where his godly play tonight has come from.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
checkupriv
Profile Joined March 2014
204 Posts
May 28 2014 23:52 GMT
#387
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly

I don't think that's true of Protoss timings
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#388
Haha so Hyun goes roach again
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#389
On May 29 2014 08:52 AWalker9 wrote:
I know Heart's always been good vs zerg but I wonder where his godly play tonight has come from.


Taeja is playing on hearts acc!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#390
I think I'm gonna hop on a Heart bandwagon since aLive didn't make it this season. Heart/Polt/Bomber shall be my Terran Triumvirate.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#391
On May 29 2014 08:53 AWalker9 wrote:
Haha so Hyun goes roach again

Understandable knowing it's HyuN.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#392
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly

lol no one will be saying it now at least.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#393
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly


I think the real problem with the roach attacks so far today is that they haven't had a good transition other than 'try again with more roaches'. If that is the way you are going to play, your first push has to do big damage and is just a huge gamble and I don't like it.
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Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
May 28 2014 23:53 GMT
#394
well
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#395
On May 29 2014 08:50 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]

(T)Heart vs (Z)HyuN
1-0


Map: Frost


Heart spawns in the top right
HyuN spawns in the bottom left


2:00
Hatchery first followed by a spawning pool for HyuN.
Heart getting a reaper first.

3:00
Heart expands.
Reactor on the barracks after this first reapers.
HyuN already got his zerglings and is getting two queens.
Heart building a factory.

4:00
Heart moves out with a few marines.
HyuN patrolled zerglings on his main cliff.
Heart getting a starport.

5:00
Hellions and reaper deny a third.
HyuN takes a different third.
HyuN getting a roach warren and two evolution chambers.

8:00 (T)Heart 67 vs (Z)HyuN 65
Heart starts poking at the third base.
Heart loads up a medivac.
+1/1 for HyuN.
Stim finishing up for Heart.

9:00 (T)Heart 73 vs (Z)HyuN 88
Heart drops the main base as HyuN gets supply blocked and kills a few drones and a queen.
Drop kills another 2 roaches but dies.

10:00 (T)Heart 78 vs (Z)HyuN 109
HyuN getting lots of roaches.
Heart loses all his hellions.
Widow mines kill just 1 roach.
More roaches walk right into the natural and kill marines with widow mine splash.
Heart GG's with no army.
Hyun ties it up with an equal map score of 1!
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#396
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
75%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
25%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#397
Hyun yelling TSL and chest bumps MC for some reason.
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#398
On May 29 2014 08:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly

Who said roaches suck? There was like a month in 2010 where people weren't quite with them, and that was after the supply change from 1 to 2.

idk, multiple people seemed to be saying that roach timings against terran are bad or don't work (i was backreading the jaedong games because i missed them)

speaking of which...
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#399
Nooooo

Come on Heart, keep it up and take it 2-1.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#400
He got so many roaches so quickly
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
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