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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
May 28 2014 23:54 GMT
#401
That was a Roach attack that hit a good timing, but then again Heart didn't build very defensively.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 28 2014 23:55 GMT
#402
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 28 2014 23:55 GMT
#403
On May 29 2014 08:54 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly

Who said roaches suck? There was like a month in 2010 where people weren't quite with them, and that was after the supply change from 1 to 2.

idk, multiple people seemed to be saying that roach timings against terran are bad or don't work (i was backreading the jaedong games because i missed them)

speaking of which...

That was kinda skewed given the widow mines just killed a shit ton of marines. But yeah I think roach timings are fine against Terran but can get shut down harder than some other aggressive builds
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DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
May 28 2014 23:55 GMT
#404
Roach timings don't work? Hyun says different.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 28 2014 23:55 GMT
#405
On May 29 2014 08:54 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly

Who said roaches suck? There was like a month in 2010 where people weren't quite with them, and that was after the supply change from 1 to 2.

idk, multiple people seemed to be saying that roach timings against terran are bad or don't work (i was backreading the jaedong games because i missed them)

speaking of which...

Nah, roaches do all right in most situations save for pure immortal which isn't a thing.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:55 GMT
#406
On May 29 2014 08:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
75%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
25%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
May 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#407
On May 29 2014 08:55 Undead1993 wrote:
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly


It's obviously because Darkhorse said he was going to support Heart
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
May 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#408
One more hyun plz. Don't let the gambling greedy terran win.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#409
On May 29 2014 08:55 Undead1993 wrote:
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly

Foreign terran bail out incoming?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#410
[image loading]

(T)Heart vs (Z)HyuN
1-1


Map: Habitation Station


Heart spawns in the top right
HyuN spawns in the top left
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
May 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#411
So we've seen it work, and we've seen it crumble. If heart just opens the same he has been all day I think he can win
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#412
On May 29 2014 08:56 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:55 Undead1993 wrote:
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly


It's obviously because Darkhorse said he was going to support Heart

i agree, the curse is real
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 28 2014 23:57 GMT
#413
On May 29 2014 08:56 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:56 AWalker9 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:55 Undead1993 wrote:
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly


It's obviously because Darkhorse said he was going to support Heart

i agree, the curse is real

Let's test a variation of it, where it reverses when I agree with him.
I'm now rooting for Heart.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
May 28 2014 23:57 GMT
#414
Team ROCCAT? More like ROACH-AT.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 23:58:10
May 28 2014 23:57 GMT
#415
On May 29 2014 08:53 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:51 Waise wrote:
i feel like the "roaches suck" outcry in this thread is really overblown. 1/1 roach or +1 armor roach are perfectly viable timing attacks against terran, as is roach/hydra/viper macro style. yes if the timing attacks are scouted and defended well the attack can look silly... isn't that all timing attacks?

i didn't see the jaedong game from earlier, but i assume he just executed it poorly


I think the real problem with the roach attacks so far today is that they haven't had a good transition other than 'try again with more roaches'. If that is the way you are going to play, your first push has to do big damage and is just a huge gamble and I don't like it.

+ Show Spoiler +
what? roach/hydra is good and hyun does it against terran and wins. i'm fairly certain i saw life do it against innovation at dreamhack too (he lost, but no style wins EVERY time...)

the issue is that ling/bling/muta is just still really good too and usually easier to win with. but that doesn't make roach or roach/hydra weak


ooh, i missed the part where you were talking about just today. well yeah, a badly executed build is bad. but roach timings aren't bad. sometimes shit doesn't work :p
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
May 28 2014 23:57 GMT
#416
On May 29 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:56 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:56 AWalker9 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:55 Undead1993 wrote:
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly


It's obviously because Darkhorse said he was going to support Heart

i agree, the curse is real

Let's test a variation of it, where it reverses when I agree with him.
I'm now rooting for Heart.


Is your Heart in it though?
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 28 2014 23:57 GMT
#417
On May 29 2014 08:57 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Team ROCCAT? More like ROACH-AT.

i don't know kev
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 28 2014 23:58 GMT
#418
On May 29 2014 08:57 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:56 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:56 AWalker9 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:55 Undead1993 wrote:
this hype train is probably going to derail very quickly


It's obviously because Darkhorse said he was going to support Heart

i agree, the curse is real

Let's test a variation of it, where it reverses when I agree with him.
I'm now rooting for Heart.


Is your Heart in it though?

Mostly.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:58 GMT
#419
I'm really impressed with Heart's play today, but part of me is still bitter about that Winners match last season against Scarlett and that part wants Hyun to dish out revenge.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 28 2014 23:58 GMT
#420
oops, i thought [s] would be strikethrough, not spoilers. how do you do strikethrough here?
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