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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
May 28 2014 23:46 GMT
#361
On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote:
Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away?

Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru.

FlaSh would be an even better example.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
May 28 2014 23:47 GMT
#362
On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro.


Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits

+ they tank a shit load of banelings
+ they splash over a shit load of banelings

hellbats are really really good now


Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT.


So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation?
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 28 2014 23:47 GMT
#363
On May 29 2014 08:47 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro.


Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits

+ they tank a shit load of banelings
+ they splash over a shit load of banelings

hellbats are really really good now


Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT.


So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation?


Can Innovation get out of his group?
Moderator
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 28 2014 23:48 GMT
#364
On May 29 2014 08:46 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote:
Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away?

Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru.

FlaSh would be an even better example.


Shine is an even better example when he beat Flash in Code A.
Moderator
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
May 28 2014 23:48 GMT
#365
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro.


Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits

+ they tank a shit load of banelings
+ they splash over a shit load of banelings

hellbats are really really good now

As long as you fight on creep, standard muta/bane/ling armies can overwhelm just fine still. I feel the threat is quite overstated. There is no reason for zergs to abandon a perfectly winnable macro game to coinflip and hope the terran doesn't see roaches coming.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 28 2014 23:48 GMT
#366
Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:48 GMT
#367
On May 29 2014 08:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:47 AWalker9 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro.


Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits

+ they tank a shit load of banelings
+ they splash over a shit load of banelings

hellbats are really really good now


Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT.


So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation?


Can Innovation get out of his group?

Can Shine continue to fuel stichiu's needs?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 28 2014 23:48 GMT
#368
On May 29 2014 08:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:47 AWalker9 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro.


Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits

+ they tank a shit load of banelings
+ they splash over a shit load of banelings

hellbats are really really good now


Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT.


So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation?


Can Innovation get out of his group?

Not in first that's for sure.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 23:49:49
May 28 2014 23:49 GMT
#369
On May 29 2014 08:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:46 RHoudini wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote:
Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away?

Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru.

FlaSh would be an even better example.


Shine is an even better example when he beat Flash in Code A.


Shine beating sOs is a good example as well.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 28 2014 23:49 GMT
#370
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro.


Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits

+ they tank a shit load of banelings
+ they splash over a shit load of banelings

hellbats are really really good now

wat? hellbats are very mediocre everytime i saw someone prefer hellbats instead of mines on korean level i watched him die to banes only
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
May 28 2014 23:49 GMT
#371
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace.

First with people expecting Jim, then Jaedong losing, and now Heart possibly defeating both Jaedong and HyuN, two favorites.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 28 2014 23:49 GMT
#372
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace.

Sometimes they do well when stuchiu/Templar/myself + a few others are commenting a lot. Also when popular players like JD and Hyun are playing.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 28 2014 23:49 GMT
#373
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace.

You're welcome.
+ Show Spoiler +
jk, everybody is very excited about these games it seems!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 28 2014 23:50 GMT
#374
On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote:
Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away?

Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru.


or Flash, MKP etc...
Zest fanboy.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 28 2014 23:50 GMT
#375
On May 29 2014 08:49 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace.

Sometimes they do well when stuchiu/Templar/myself + a few others are commenting a lot. Also when popular players like JD and Hyun are playing.

Not the Templar replying to himself ad infinitum doing LR. XD
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
May 28 2014 23:50 GMT
#376
I normally don't comment much in LR threads either as I have only 1 screen but there is good content in here tonight
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 23:51:02
May 28 2014 23:50 GMT
#377
[image loading]

(T)Heart vs (Z)HyuN
1-0


Map: Frost


Heart spawns in the top right
HyuN spawns in the bottom left


2:00
Hatchery first followed by a spawning pool for HyuN.
Heart getting a reaper first.

3:00
Heart expands.
Reactor on the barracks after this first reapers.
HyuN already got his zerglings and is getting two queens.
Heart building a factory.

4:00
Heart moves out with a few marines.
HyuN patrolled zerglings on his main cliff.
Heart getting a starport.

5:00
Hellions and reaper deny a third.
HyuN takes a different third.
HyuN getting a roach warren and two evolution chambers.
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TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 28 2014 23:50 GMT
#378
On May 29 2014 08:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 08:49 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace.

Sometimes they do well when stuchiu/Templar/myself + a few others are commenting a lot. Also when popular players like JD and Hyun are playing.

Not the Templar replying to himself ad infinitum doing LR. XD

:D
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#379
Heart is reading HyuN very well.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 23:51:49
May 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#380
On May 29 2014 08:50 Jer99 wrote:
I normally don't comment much in LR threads either as I have only 1 screen but there is good content in here tonight

Shall I balance whine and caster bash and post JD sheep to bring down the quality?

But in all seriousness I'm going to start mixing in more hellbats in my TvZ's.
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