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[ATC] Acer vs mouz, Playday 5, Season 3 - Page 6

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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 17:52:30
May 22 2014 17:51 GMT
#101
On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote:
Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S


And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji).


That is not true, jjakji played and lost.


Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches.

That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 22 2014 17:52 GMT
#102
On May 23 2014 02:48 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:44 Bagration wrote:
Embarrassing


Quite. All the teams that have already played and lost to a full-strength Acer are going to be feeling pretty aggrieved right now. I'm sure they would have loved to face an Acer team which only fielded one of their Korean aces once. The INnoVation is fair enough but I don't know why they couldn't revive MMA.

I should be celebrating Axiom slaughtering EG today (which they also had to do the hard way unlike Millenium and mYi lol) but this really frustrating as full strength Acer team would have had mouz but instead their closest play-off rivals were given an easy ride.

But hey, at least NewRoSoft are currently up against Millenium, hopefully Welmu can go all the way there.


It's not that Acer was significantly weakened, since in the past when Innovation was unavailable other players would step up. You would have MMA play twice, and that is usually enough to beat most teams. Today, no one really shined. No one was able to grab more than 1 win, and it was terrible.

I hope the team can become stronger from this loss, as cheesy as it sounds. Better to lose two now then lose two in the playoffs and get eliminated.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 17:57:54
May 22 2014 17:54 GMT
#103
On May 23 2014 02:52 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:48 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:44 Bagration wrote:
Embarrassing


Quite. All the teams that have already played and lost to a full-strength Acer are going to be feeling pretty aggrieved right now. I'm sure they would have loved to face an Acer team which only fielded one of their Korean aces once. The INnoVation is fair enough but I don't know why they couldn't revive MMA.

I should be celebrating Axiom slaughtering EG today (which they also had to do the hard way unlike Millenium and mYi lol) but this really frustrating as full strength Acer team would have had mouz but instead their closest play-off rivals were given an easy ride.

But hey, at least NewRoSoft are currently up against Millenium, hopefully Welmu can go all the way there.


It's not that Acer was significantly weakened, since in the past when Innovation was unavailable other players would step up. You would have MMA play twice, and that is usually enough to beat most teams. Today, no one really shined. No one was able to grab more than 1 win, and it was terrible.

I hope the team can become stronger from this loss, as cheesy as it sounds. Better to lose two now then lose two in the playoffs and get eliminated.



It totally is that Acer was significantly weakened. INnoVation didn't play at all and MMA only played once because he wasn't even revived.

Don't try to tell me that Bly, Scarlett, MMA, Nerchio, Scarlett is anywhere near as hard as Bly, INnoVation, Scarlett, MMA, INnoVation.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 22 2014 17:56 GMT
#104
Acer has lost more matches in a span of 6 hours than it did for all of Season 2.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
mooncifer
Profile Joined October 2012
109 Posts
May 22 2014 18:24 GMT
#105
What a day!
Anyway, best of luck for INnoVation@GSL and for MMA@WCS.
dedicate
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 22 2014 18:51 GMT
#106
mouz vs Empire-Fnatic going on right now by the way: http://www.twitch.tv/breakersc2
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 22 2014 18:59 GMT
#107
Vortix too strong
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Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
May 22 2014 19:42 GMT
#108
I love our team now!
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 22 2014 20:22 GMT
#109
That's what I wanted to see, GG mouz!
On May 23 2014 02:51 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote:
Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S


And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji).


That is not true, jjakji played and lost.


Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches.

That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out.

In season 1 all of Axioms matches were postponed to a later date and they got easier line-ups, this time mouz got lucky, that Inno/SD weren't available and Axiom had a bit harder opponents. I think over it larger time period everything does even out.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 22 2014 20:55 GMT
#110
Acer
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
May 22 2014 20:55 GMT
#111
mouz tops the league! yeees
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 23 2014 08:53 GMT
#112
On May 23 2014 05:22 Xoronius wrote:
That's what I wanted to see, GG mouz!
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 02:51 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote:
Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S


And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji).


That is not true, jjakji played and lost.


Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches.

That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out.

In season 1 all of Axioms matches were postponed to a later date and they got easier line-ups, this time mouz got lucky, that Inno/SD weren't available and Axiom had a bit harder opponents. I think over it larger time period everything does even out.


"a bit".

That's the understatement of the century.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 18:28:18
May 23 2014 18:28 GMT
#113
Anyone got the VODs for MMA vs. Starbuck? I want to see that game again
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 23 2014 21:06 GMT
#114
On May 23 2014 17:53 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 05:22 Xoronius wrote:
That's what I wanted to see, GG mouz!
On May 23 2014 02:51 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:47 SumCookie wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:42 Crot4le wrote:
On May 23 2014 02:36 GumBa wrote:
Mouzs main luck is Inno having code S


And playing mYinsanity when all their best players were on holiday (Kane, StarDust and jjakji).


That is not true, jjakji played and lost.


Yes, but he wasn't revived. It is not too difficult to take out one of these ace players once. Axiom took out jjakji, StarDust and Kane but it wasn't enough when a revived jjakji took the last two games. Axiom also took out MMA and INnoVation but had to face a revived INno who won the next three maps to take the match 5-4. If Axiom had the same ride as mouz had got there is no question that they would have definitely won both matches.

That's an issue with the ATC. I love it to bits because it's so exciting but it really could do with more consistency because some times get an unfair advantage due to sheer coincidence of players not being available on the day. Unfortunately, this season the luck hasn't evened out.

In season 1 all of Axioms matches were postponed to a later date and they got easier line-ups, this time mouz got lucky, that Inno/SD weren't available and Axiom had a bit harder opponents. I think over it larger time period everything does even out.


"a bit".

That's the understatement of the century.

Well, you are talking about 1 player vs mYi (Stardust) and 1 player vs Acer (Inno). I do not count Kane, since Axiom didn't have to face Serral either. On the other hand, Cold-dig had a much weaker line-up vs Axiom (Trimaster/QXC instead of BlinG/SeleCT) and still took 4 maps, maybe Axiom would have lost top Col-Dig, if Col-Dig would have fielded their LU, which they used against mouz. Not likely, but certainly possible. Sure, players can't always attend every clan war, but blaming mouz for not having to face two players, even if things might have gone different if Inno had played, is not neccessary, as this is a situation, every team had working for or against them in some league at some point. Before complaining about that, I'd rather call Mill lucky for getting handed a free-win by EG.
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