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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 21 2014 01:01 GMT
#461
On May 21 2014 09:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Perhaps the most satisfying feeling as a Muta/Corruptor player against a heavy Phoenix army is landing the perfect Fungals.

a close second is when the protoss player gives 10 free phoenix to your corruptors
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 21 2014 01:01 GMT
#462
Come on Huk. You can do this
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 21 2014 01:01 GMT
#463
ye i dunno huk. this was pretty terrible.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
May 21 2014 01:01 GMT
#464
On May 21 2014 09:59 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 09:57 Wombat_NI wrote:
HerO used to be reticent to all-in, so it was a good addition to his toolkit.


Hey, if I were in his position, I'd do everything I could to win as well. The worst thing a player can do is to become predictable.

That being said, I'm not too worried about Hero's career despite this setback. He's talented, he's relatively young still, and he has no serious injuries. Also, Liquid is a great team for him, and you know that they will keep on sending him to tournaments and supporting him. Just a temporary roadblock for the guy.

I'd like to see HerO in online tournaments again. Even if he doesn't do particularly well he doesn't have the pressure of a LAN on his shoulders and winning or going far in them boosts confidence. Or maybe it's just a mental block in WCS.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 21 2014 01:02 GMT
#465
On May 21 2014 10:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
20%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
40%

★★★- Good game (2)
 
40%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
May 21 2014 01:02 GMT
#466
why doesn't anybody build storm against this mass airstyle?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 21 2014 01:02 GMT
#467
Alas, foreigners start off the day with success, but it seems like in the end, the Koreans are able to clinch it out. First we had Bunny and Harstem with their wins but Yoda fought back, and Huk had his win, but looks like Revival is coming to take back that Ro16 spot.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 21 2014 01:02 GMT
#468
On May 21 2014 10:00 Popkiller wrote:
nice rally on those voids, Huk

I am not really sure he cared at that point, the game was pretty much over.

Zerg mass air is so....blahhhhhhh.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 01:03:01
May 21 2014 01:02 GMT
#469
On May 21 2014 10:01 Undead1993 wrote:
ye i dunno huk. this was pretty terrible.

if i were a zerg player i would just keep going muta corruptor against huk every single game until he proves he can actually micro phoenix

On May 21 2014 10:02 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 10:00 Popkiller wrote:
nice rally on those voids, Huk

I am not really sure he cared at that point, the game was pretty much over.

Zerg mass air is so....blahhhhhhh.

yeah it must suck to play against something you can't forcefield
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 21 2014 01:02 GMT
#470
Rotterdam really abuses the English language
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 21 2014 01:03 GMT
#471
On May 21 2014 10:02 Bagration wrote:
Alas, foreigners start off the day with success, but it seems like in the end, the Koreans are able to clinch it out. First we had Bunny and Harstem with their wins but Yoda fought back, and Huk had his win, but looks like Revival is coming to take back that Ro16 spot.

good news is major isnt starting off against the Korean terran this time to go WLL in his matches so he should advance :D
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 01:04:19
May 21 2014 01:03 GMT
#472
On May 21 2014 09:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 09:52 Bagration wrote:
On May 21 2014 09:47 Shellshock wrote:
On May 21 2014 09:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Man, what the hell happened to HerO? He's always been overrated, but lately he seems to be losing to everyone of a decent level...

Thought he was at least better than this.

Idk something just went wrong for him after the iem win


Don't want to be an ass, but Hero won IEM when Protoss abuse of blink stalker timings and other early aggression against Terran was most egregious. Keeping that in mind, these were Hero's matches during the tournament

(P)HerO 2-0 (T)ForGG
(P)HerO 0-2 (P)Rain
(P)HerO 2-0 (T)ForGG

(P)HerO 3-0 (T)INnoVation

(P)HerO 3-2 (Z)Jaedong

(P)HerO 4-2 (T)Polt

He basically used the power of early aggression against Terran, and scraped out a close comeback win against Jaedong to win it all. Not the most impressive of his tournament wins frankly.

While I was rooting for Polt hardcore after his super sick series against Rain (best PvT series ever IMO), the way HerO played against Polt and against the others isn't really what you're saying. He used templars to great defensive abilities, and did some great harassment and army movements. I don't think you're giving HerO enough credit for winning such a stacked tournament.


HerO killed more than 600 SCVs in that entire tournament, and the win vs Jaedong was not luck, but also not entirely skill. Good micro from hero and poor decision from JD gave him win. Other than that, he outplayed all the terrans. Not to mention he doesn't abuse the same build everygame, he can macro, multitask, cheese, pressure, anything
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 21 2014 01:03 GMT
#473
On May 21 2014 10:02 Myt wrote:
why doesn't anybody build storm against this mass airstyle?

So you can never hit with your templar that move at the speed of a thor without the sweet hitpoints?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 21 2014 01:03 GMT
#474
What lost Huk the game? Lack of ground to air to support the phoenix? Maybe more voids sooner without losing the phoenix instead of rushing collosi against a scouted 2 spire upgraded zerg air army.

Earlier voids? Maybe someone who plays P or Z can tell me.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 01:05:08
May 21 2014 01:04 GMT
#475
On May 21 2014 10:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 09:59 Bagration wrote:
On May 21 2014 09:57 Wombat_NI wrote:
HerO used to be reticent to all-in, so it was a good addition to his toolkit.


Hey, if I were in his position, I'd do everything I could to win as well. The worst thing a player can do is to become predictable.

That being said, I'm not too worried about Hero's career despite this setback. He's talented, he's relatively young still, and he has no serious injuries. Also, Liquid is a great team for him, and you know that they will keep on sending him to tournaments and supporting him. Just a temporary roadblock for the guy.

I'd like to see HerO in online tournaments again. Even if he doesn't do particularly well he doesn't have the pressure of a LAN on his shoulders and winning or going far in them boosts confidence. Or maybe it's just a mental block in WCS.


He's had some stacked groups in WCS Ro32, and losing twice to Huk doesn't help. I'd like to think that Hero has become a more seasoned veteran and less prone to nerves by now, given that it's been nearly 3 years since he's been with Liquid and travelling to tournaments. Problem is, nowadays even online tournaments worldwide are pretty stacked, simply because so many Korean players flock to them for extra cash, so it's not much easier.

But Hero's doing well in the ATC, so there's that.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 01:04:36
May 21 2014 01:04 GMT
#476
On May 21 2014 10:02 Myt wrote:
why doesn't anybody build storm against this mass airstyle?

you do add storm as a protoss, but not until you have enough blink stalkers and archons to stabilize your bases. if you rush to storm the mutas will just dodge it or regen and kill all your stuff

On May 21 2014 10:03 plogamer wrote:
What lost Huk the game? Lack of ground to air to support the phoenix? Maybe more voids sooner without losing the phoenix instead of rushing collosi against a scouted 2 spire upgraded zerg air army.

Earlier voids? Maybe someone who plays P or Z can tell me.

he lost a shitload of phoenix to corruptors lol
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
May 21 2014 01:04 GMT
#477
On May 21 2014 10:02 Derez wrote:
Rotterdam really abuses the English language

I love the malapropisms, the constant "either way" transitions are fairly painful though.
我的媽和她的瘋狂的外甥都
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 21 2014 01:04 GMT
#478
On May 21 2014 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 10:02 Bagration wrote:
Alas, foreigners start off the day with success, but it seems like in the end, the Koreans are able to clinch it out. First we had Bunny and Harstem with their wins but Yoda fought back, and Huk had his win, but looks like Revival is coming to take back that Ro16 spot.

good news is major isnt starting off against the Korean terran this time to go WLL in his matches so he should advance :D

JUAN WILL WIN WCS AMERICA
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 01:05:51
May 21 2014 01:05 GMT
#479
On May 21 2014 10:02 Bagration wrote:
Alas, foreigners start off the day with success, but it seems like in the end, the Koreans are able to clinch it out. First we had Bunny and Harstem with their wins but Yoda fought back, and Huk had his win, but looks like Revival is coming to take back that Ro16 spot.


Out of the 6 players that have qualified for the RO16 in WCS EU YoDa and Snute were thee only ones I wanted to advance. I've had horrible luck with the others T_T
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
May 21 2014 01:05 GMT
#480
On May 21 2014 10:03 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 10:02 Myt wrote:
why doesn't anybody build storm against this mass airstyle?

So you can never hit with your templar that move at the speed of a thor without the sweet hitpoints?


but it's something to widdle the corruptors down so that your phoenix have a fighting chance
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