It does not, new blood can become bigger than otherwise would ever be possible thanks to standing on the shoulders of giants. See: Rory McIlroy.

It doesn't make the game stale, that doesn't even make sense.

Also they can't play in everything past their prime, since they have to qualify for most big tournaments especially WCS the biggest of them all.

Your arguments are awful.

Look at what BW taught us.

There are limited spots in tournaments. These spots are taken up by these former champions. Thus new blood is denied. And Stephano especially is INVITED to most things, his recent qualification into WCS EU is the outlier here, but he gets invites to every Homestory Cup on the back of his past achievements

SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1608

Thank god Jaedong won. The world is right again.

Integra

Sweden5626 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1609

Great Series by both players. Congrats to JD!

cheekymonkey

France1387 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1610

nnoooooo!!

Qwerty85

Croatia5536 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1611

On May 05 2014 04:46 Darkhorse wrote:

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And the viewer count would go up so it could only be good for everyone involved.

Everyone except the fanboys that would eventually get banned :D

GumBa

United Kingdom31935 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1612

NOOOOOOOO

hansonslee

United States2027 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1613

On May 05 2014 04:50 GumBa wrote:

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Moon was better than Grubby

Well, at least, Grubby still won his WCG

Makro

France16890 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1614

close series

Boucot

France15997 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1615

That was a good run Stephano. Didn't expect that much once again.

Now hoping for a Polt vs Jaedong/viOLet finals.

Lorning

Belgica34432 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1616

On May 05 2014 04:50 Lorning wrote:

Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs Stephano Game 5?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)

8%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)

8%

★★★- Good game (6)

50%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)

17%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)

17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs Stephano Game 5?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

Emerson_H

United States460 Posts

May 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#1617

On May 05 2014 04:50 GumBa wrote:

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Moon was better than Grubby

But not by a huge margin. They were fairly evenly matched for most of their careers. And Moon is korean, so I don't see your point.

vult

United States9400 Posts

May 04 2014 19:52 GMT

#1618

It's okay. Jaedong will lose to Seed next round so it's okay.

Nauseam

Sweden191 Posts

May 04 2014 19:52 GMT

#1619

On May 05 2014 04:45 oogieogie wrote:

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On May 05 2014 04:41 Nauseam wrote:

On May 05 2014 04:29 oogieogie wrote:

On May 05 2014 04:23 Nauseam wrote:

On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:

On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:

On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:

On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.

But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS.

wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles.

LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units.

Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours?

Jeez. These zerg fanboys.

ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH.

Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense.

To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.

yea it is possible to break them after using fucking swarm hosts/vipers to slowly wittle the fucking protoss down. What would happen if SH get nerfed and P goes skytoss? The zerg now has like no answer for it or to just trade super cost inefficient while he has a great economy.

I am saying it would also be more popular where you could play the game, and if you start to get pretty behind then you go skytoss while turtling so zerg cant really end so you get back in the game.

yes i watched the game where pet turtled in main while endless locust hit each other at the ramp. I do think stephano could have ended it with a muta switch at the end since he killed most of the spores or go BLs maybe. The thing is that could work or he could lose.

Did you even read my first post? I know Z has to go SH against skytoss and that's why the race design is so stupid. That SH creates hour long stalemate type of games as well makes it even more dumb and boring.

SH shouldn't get nerfed. They should be completely removed. And yes, P needs a redesign as well. Fact is though, P and T turtling doesn't create 2-3 hour long games.

zerg should not just lose to a race because they dont have a answer to what they have. The fact that they don't create long games doesnt matter.

Did I say that? I'm saying zerg needs a redesign and a replacement unit for the SH. You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

And yes, it matters a LOT. In fact, if Blizzard ever is gonna change or remove SH it will be because of exactly that. Long and boring games. Not that the concept of free units in a RTS is completely retarded.

GumBa

United Kingdom31935 Posts

May 04 2014 19:52 GMT

#1620

I WANTED TO USHER IN THE END TIMES