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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 04 2014 19:50 GMT
#1601
Jaedong's smile .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1602
"Congratulations darling" LOL
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1603
WP Jaedong! Deserved win but a great series overall.

Stephano did do himself proud though.
Red and yellow are all I see
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1604
nooooo Stephano =/
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1605
On May 05 2014 04:50 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
At least we get Polt vs Jaedong finals potentially.

Those are always hotly contested and close!


But the views.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1606
On May 05 2014 04:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
At least we get Polt vs Jaedong finals potentially.

The rematch I desperately asked for and HerO denied at IEM Cologne.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1607
On May 05 2014 04:48 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:45 Yorkie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:43 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:41 Yorkie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
It doesn't destroy the scene, its how it is in every big individual sport and its what drives them, not the opposite. Tiger MADE golf what it is. Nadal, Fed etc are the drivers of worldwide interest in tennis etc.

You need dominating players and personalities to grow a scene. The game itself will never bring the same level of interest because only players/hardcore fans will watch.

Tiger didn't make golf what it is by being popular. neither did Nadal and Fed dominate tennis because of their fanbase. They did it by being the best. how can you not see the difference? Stephano is NOT the best.


But he WAS. That's the point.

Also they did do it by being popular, but they were popular by being the best. This isn't always true. For example Jimmy White in snooker was huge but was runner up 6 times and never won.

Their popularity drove the growth of the game. That's the issue here. If you want to grow the scene and not just have the dregs of a scene followed by hardcore fans only you need these personalities. You need people who viewers only tune in to watch them. Its vital. It is the opposite of destroying the scene, it is what keeps it alive and grows it.

It blocks out opportunities for new blood, makes the game stale, and allows people who WERE dominant to keep playing in everything past their prime


It does not, new blood can become bigger than otherwise would ever be possible thanks to standing on the shoulders of giants. See: Rory McIlroy.

It doesn't make the game stale, that doesn't even make sense.

Also they can't play in everything past their prime, since they have to qualify for most big tournaments especially WCS the biggest of them all.

Your arguments are awful.

Look at what BW taught us.

There are limited spots in tournaments. These spots are taken up by these former champions. Thus new blood is denied. And Stephano especially is INVITED to most things, his recent qualification into WCS EU is the outlier here, but he gets invites to every Homestory Cup on the back of his past achievements
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1608
Thank god Jaedong won. The world is right again.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1609
Great Series by both players. Congrats to JD!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1610
nnoooooo!!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1611
On May 05 2014 04:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:46 Qwerty85 wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:45 Lorning wrote:
I wish NaNi still played SC2, so we could see faniwas vs all these Stephano fanboys


Imagine the amount of pages this LR would get...

And the viewer count would go up so it could only be good for everyone involved.


Everyone except the fanboys that would eventually get banned :D
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1612
NOOOOOOOO
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1613
On May 05 2014 04:50 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:47 GumBa wrote:
Naniwa is still the more accomplished foreigner

But Grubby's WC3 career!

Moon was better than Grubby


Well, at least, Grubby still won his WCG
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1614
close series
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1615
That was a good run Stephano. Didn't expect that much once again.

Now hoping for a Polt vs Jaedong/viOLet finals.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1616
On May 05 2014 04:50 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs Stephano Game 5?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
8%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
8%

★★★- Good game (6)
 
50%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
 
17%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs Stephano Game 5?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 19:52:27
May 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#1617
On May 05 2014 04:50 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:47 GumBa wrote:
Naniwa is still the more accomplished foreigner

But Grubby's WC3 career!

Moon was better than Grubby


But not by a huge margin. They were fairly evenly matched for most of their careers. And Moon is korean, so I don't see your point.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 04 2014 19:52 GMT
#1618
It's okay. Jaedong will lose to Seed next round so it's okay.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Nauseam
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden191 Posts
May 04 2014 19:52 GMT
#1619
On May 05 2014 04:45 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:41 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:29 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:23 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.

But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS.

wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles.


LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units.

Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours?

Jeez. These zerg fanboys.

ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH.



Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense.

To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.


yea it is possible to break them after using fucking swarm hosts/vipers to slowly wittle the fucking protoss down. What would happen if SH get nerfed and P goes skytoss? The zerg now has like no answer for it or to just trade super cost inefficient while he has a great economy.

I am saying it would also be more popular where you could play the game, and if you start to get pretty behind then you go skytoss while turtling so zerg cant really end so you get back in the game.

yes i watched the game where pet turtled in main while endless locust hit each other at the ramp. I do think stephano could have ended it with a muta switch at the end since he killed most of the spores or go BLs maybe. The thing is that could work or he could lose.


Did you even read my first post? I know Z has to go SH against skytoss and that's why the race design is so stupid. That SH creates hour long stalemate type of games as well makes it even more dumb and boring.

SH shouldn't get nerfed. They should be completely removed. And yes, P needs a redesign as well. Fact is though, P and T turtling doesn't create 2-3 hour long games.

zerg should not just lose to a race because they dont have a answer to what they have. The fact that they don't create long games doesnt matter.


Did I say that? I'm saying zerg needs a redesign and a replacement unit for the SH. You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

And yes, it matters a LOT. In fact, if Blizzard ever is gonna change or remove SH it will be because of exactly that. Long and boring games. Not that the concept of free units in a RTS is completely retarded.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 19:52 GMT
#1620
I WANTED TO USHER IN THE END TIMES
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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