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SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 12:29:13
April 27 2014 12:29 GMT
#1681
On April 27 2014 21:25 Varroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:20 SlixSC wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:18 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:16 TheDwf wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:15 Varroth wrote:
Protoss units are so fking slow i mean they probably put turtles in those suits also mules are dumb.. only terran can have 30 scvs and continue playing

You realize Welmu didn't have a fully working economy either?


His economy was x100 times better than that of Innovations after the big fight though but my point about mules is its not that rare to see terrans lose 30 out of 60 scvs but since they have 3 orbital commands they stay in the game and sometimes win purely cause of mules


Innovation was up roughly 20-30 army supply when he attacked Welmu's third, because Welmu lost his entire army with his attack. If anything you should make a case that Protoss holding off an army 2x the supply for 10 mins is kind of ridiculous.

I fail to see what mules have to do with any of this.


What it has to do with it is that Innovation had about 20 scvs after the fight thats nowhere near enough to produce army 24/7 but since hes terran and terran has mules he manages to do just that which i find ridiculous cause what justifies mules anyways protoss always needs to be at like 60-65 probes zerg like 70-85 drones while a terran only needs 60 ish in the early--midgame after that they can have practically none and still have a just as good/better economy even though terran units are pretty effing cheap


And yet even though mules are so terribly broken and terran units are so ridiculously cheap it's seemingly been impossible for Terran to win a major tournament in the last 6-7 months. While poor protoss has been winning tournaments left and right. How ?

http://i.imgur.com/25h2Fpj.png
Weird really.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 12:31:57
April 27 2014 12:29 GMT
#1682
uk DreamHackSC2                                uk Nathanias
(T)TY 1 - 2 (P)MC                                (T)Ryung 1 - 2 (Z)Impact
(Z)Zanster 0 - 2 (Z)Jaedong                   (Z)HyuN 0 - 2 (Z)Snute
(T)INnoVation 2 - 1 (P)Welmu                   (P)ToD 0 - 2 (T)Bunny
(Z)Leenock 0 - 0 (Z)Life LIVE                   (T)jjakji 0 - 1 (P)StarDust LIVE
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 27 2014 12:29 GMT
#1683
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?

Accordining to Zealously. Life
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 27 2014 12:29 GMT
#1684
On April 27 2014 21:25 TheDwf wrote:
What happened in the first game between jjakji and StarDust?


x position on Alterzim
jjakji moved out and a WP came in and did a shit ton of damage
then he was half way out of the map and was blocked, and stardust warped in more zealots and killed more workers
then death
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 27 2014 12:29 GMT
#1685
On April 27 2014 21:29 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:28 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:27 Lorning wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:26 TheFlexN wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:26 Aeromi wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:25 shid0x wrote:
ahah only 2k people watching proleague :D

And Lorning is doing this LR and the PL one.

lorning is a LR god.

Still a mere mortal D:

But thanks <3

No you have ascended lr god hood

one last hurrah before retirement

Yeah, some of us don't retire or threaten to retire
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 12:29 GMT
#1686
On April 27 2014 21:29 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:28 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:27 Lorning wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:26 TheFlexN wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:26 Aeromi wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:25 shid0x wrote:
ahah only 2k people watching proleague :D

And Lorning is doing this LR and the PL one.

lorning is a LR god.

Still a mere mortal D:

But thanks <3

No you have ascended lr god hood

one last hurrah before retirement

Something something you either die a hero
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1687
On April 27 2014 21:29 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?

Accordining to Zealously. Life

Life is the better overall player atm imo. Probably favored in ZvZ as well
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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wrier
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada291 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1688
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?


Life, his ZvZ match record is absolutely insane. Even though it's padded by Foreign tournaments, it's also sick if you just count Korean Tournaments as well.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1689
On April 27 2014 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:28 Chaggi wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:25 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:20 SlixSC wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:18 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:16 TheDwf wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:15 Varroth wrote:
Protoss units are so fking slow i mean they probably put turtles in those suits also mules are dumb.. only terran can have 30 scvs and continue playing

You realize Welmu didn't have a fully working economy either?


His economy was x100 times better than that of Innovations after the big fight though but my point about mules is its not that rare to see terrans lose 30 out of 60 scvs but since they have 3 orbital commands they stay in the game and sometimes win purely cause of mules


Innovation was up roughly 20-30 army supply when he attacked Welmu's third, because Welmu lost his entire army with his attack. If anything you should make a case that Protoss holding off an army 2x the supply for 10 mins is kind of ridiculous.

I fail to see what mules have to do with any of this.


What it has to do with it is that Innovation had about 20 scvs after the fight thats nowhere near enough to produce army 24/7 but since hes terran and terran has mules he manages to do just that which i find ridiculous cause what justifies mules anyways protoss always needs to be at like 60-65 probes zerg like 70-85 drones while a terran only needs 60 ish in the early--midgame after that they can have practically none and still have a just as good/better economy even though terran units are pretty effing cheap


I forgot MULEs win fights. Terrans need to MULE hammer more in fights.

Never understood why people call them manner MULEs. Everyone should know they're here for the killing blow.


I know when I drop MULEs on my enemies, I always try to land them on the head of my enemies. Insta-kill
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1690
On April 27 2014 21:29 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?

Accordining to Zealously. Life

How about according to anyone but Zealously?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1691
On April 27 2014 21:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:29 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?

Accordining to Zealously. Life

Life is the better overall player atm imo. Probably favored in ZvZ as well

Well, he won game 1
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1692
Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Life Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
90%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Life Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1693
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?



Life
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 12:31:13
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1694
On April 27 2014 21:29 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:29 Shellshock wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:28 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:27 Lorning wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:26 TheFlexN wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:26 Aeromi wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:25 shid0x wrote:
ahah only 2k people watching proleague :D

And Lorning is doing this LR and the PL one.

lorning is a LR god.

Still a mere mortal D:

But thanks <3

No you have ascended lr god hood

one last hurrah before retirement

Something something you either die a hero


You either die a villain or see yourself become the hero. HELLKITTY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO 1 BASE HEART TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!
Moderator
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 27 2014 12:30 GMT
#1695
On April 27 2014 21:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:29 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:28 KristofferAG wrote:
So is Life or Leenock the better ZvZ player these days?

Accordining to Zealously. Life

Life is the better overall player atm imo. Probably favored in ZvZ as well

Oh Life is definetly better
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 27 2014 12:31 GMT
#1696
On April 27 2014 21:30 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 21:29 TheDwf wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:28 Chaggi wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:25 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:20 SlixSC wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:18 Varroth wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:16 TheDwf wrote:
On April 27 2014 21:15 Varroth wrote:
Protoss units are so fking slow i mean they probably put turtles in those suits also mules are dumb.. only terran can have 30 scvs and continue playing

You realize Welmu didn't have a fully working economy either?


His economy was x100 times better than that of Innovations after the big fight though but my point about mules is its not that rare to see terrans lose 30 out of 60 scvs but since they have 3 orbital commands they stay in the game and sometimes win purely cause of mules


Innovation was up roughly 20-30 army supply when he attacked Welmu's third, because Welmu lost his entire army with his attack. If anything you should make a case that Protoss holding off an army 2x the supply for 10 mins is kind of ridiculous.

I fail to see what mules have to do with any of this.


What it has to do with it is that Innovation had about 20 scvs after the fight thats nowhere near enough to produce army 24/7 but since hes terran and terran has mules he manages to do just that which i find ridiculous cause what justifies mules anyways protoss always needs to be at like 60-65 probes zerg like 70-85 drones while a terran only needs 60 ish in the early--midgame after that they can have practically none and still have a just as good/better economy even though terran units are pretty effing cheap


I forgot MULEs win fights. Terrans need to MULE hammer more in fights.

Never understood why people call them manner MULEs. Everyone should know they're here for the killing blow.


I know when I drop MULEs on my enemies, I always try to land them on the head of my enemies. Insta-kill

I once killed a Colossus that had narrowly escaped death with 2 manner MULEs. True story.
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
April 27 2014 12:31 GMT
#1697
On April 27 2014 21:26 Qwerty85 wrote:
KESPA elitists


The games are actually better/more high level there, but the hype is all here. And it's hype that draws the people in nowadays, mainly. Kespa knew what they're getting into with playing matches on sundays.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 12:31 GMT
#1698
Leenock please
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 27 2014 12:31 GMT
#1699
Fuck yeah Life!<3
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 27 2014 12:31 GMT
#1700
On April 27 2014 21:29 Lorning wrote:
uk DreamHackSC2                                uk Nathanias
(T)TY 1 - 2 (P)MC                                (T)Ryung 1 - 2 (Z)Impact
(Z)Zanster 0 - 1 (Z)Jaedong                   (Z)HyuN 0 - 2 (Z)Snute
(T)INnoVation 2 - 1 (P)Welmu                   (P)ToD 0 - 2 (T)Bunny
(Z)Leenock 0 - 0 (Z)Life LIVE                   (T)jjakji 0 - 1 (P)StarDust LIVE

contrary to popular belief game 2 of Zanster vs Jaedong did actually end and it was a Jaedong victory
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