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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 06 2014 18:41 GMT
#281
On May 07 2014 01:01 Aeromi wrote:


Why please? People registered to be voted on not that long ago, and fans have voted. Some explanation would be in place I think.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
May 06 2014 19:32 GMT
#282
On May 07 2014 01:01 Aeromi wrote:
https://twitter.com/NationWarsSC2/status/463710008774258688


What the shit ?
Fuck...Team france...why.

also Khaldor confirmed for enflish stream.
RIP MKP
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 22:07:14
May 06 2014 22:04 GMT
#283
Wow Canada vs Germany in first round. Thats some shitty luck, considering they are like 2/3 of the top 3 foreign sc2 countries (Germany, Norway, Canada)
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 06 2014 22:19 GMT
#284
On May 07 2014 01:01 Aeromi wrote:
https://twitter.com/NationWarsSC2/status/463710008774258688


No ToD? That's unfortunate.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
OGamingTV SC2
Profile Joined March 2013
France84 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-23 23:56:30
May 07 2014 00:06 GMT
#285
[image loading]

RO16:
Wednesday, May 07 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00): no Norway vs Netherlands nl
Wednesday, May 07 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) se Sweden vs Denmark dk



(Wiki)NationWars II



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All the streams will be embed on NationWars's website.

fr O'GamingTV with Pomf, Thud, Anoss, (T)FunKa and (Z)MoMaN
gb Thomas "Khaldor" Killian
de TaKeTV with Dennis "TaKe" Gehlen
ru Sergei "(P)Pomi" Rodionov
pl EmScTV with Emil
es HysteRya and Pr0gr4m3r
it Vasacast




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no Norway vs. nl Netherlands


Interview of (Z)TargA, the captain of Norway:
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)TargA, currently playing for Imaginary Gaming, is the Norway's captain, who won last edition of NationWars.

Hello (Z)TargA. Four months ago, Norway became the first champion of NationWars. What did you feel when you made your country win?

TargA: "I think we were the only team that had two ace players, so either me or (Z)Snute could start or finish the matches. We also have very different play styles so it makes harder for our opponents even though we play the same race. We also had a wildcard player, (P)Eiki, who surprised me and (Z)Snute and was able to take down some big players. We also took it very seriously, putting a lot of effort and thought in to who's starting, what maps should be vetoed and saved."

A lot of people did not forecast the victory of Norway for NationWars. Do you feel you managed to change community's point of view about Norway?

TargA: "I read some of the comments of the TL post and I think people kinda forgot that we won, some are listing Sweden as favorites for some absurd reason, so I don't think we changed the communitys point of view, but I bet all the other nations have Norway as favorites to win."

You kept exactly the same squad as the past edition with Snute and Eiki. Do you think you are stronger than before?

TargA: "Me and Snute are stronger than last time, not too sure about Eiki since he's finishing up his last year of school, but hopefully he can protoss his way to a few wins!"

What do you think about your first match against the Netherlands? What will be the key to win?

TargA: "For our match against Netherlands, I don't think it matters who start, Me, Snute or Eiki are all capable of all killing them. I think they will have to get really lucky in order to win a map."

Who would you like to face next if you win: Sweden or Denmark?

TargA: "We would like to play Sweden since they are the weaker team, but I don't fear Denmark too much. Will be an easy match anyways!"


Interview of (Z)Ret, the captain of the Netherlands:
+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)Ret, currently playing for TeamLiquid, is the Netherlands's Captain.

Hello (Z)Ret. You are the captain of the Netherlands for its first participation to NationWars. What do you think about your squad?

Ret: " I think our squad is very solid! (P)Grubby needs no introduction and (P)Harstem & (T)uThermal have been owning lately! (P)Harstem you can't really say hes an up & comer anymore, hes been posting solid results at the top of europe for over a year now. (T)uThermal recently qualified for WCS twice and his TvZ could help us out tremendously! I have to practice my ass off to try and not be the weak link in this line-up!"

(T)uThermal will replace (P)Grubby and a big part of the community think that it could be a good thing for the Netherlands. What's your opinion about it?

Ret: " Yeah, considering (P)Grubby has been on holidays and likely hasn't practiced as much as he usually does, I think (T)uThermal is a great replacement. He's on fire recently and I'm sure he'll do well."

You are going to face the NationWars I's champion, Norway. What do you think about this team?

Ret: " Obviously Norway has a great line-up. (Z)Snute has to be considered as the best foreigner at this point with his recent results. He's just an insane player. (Z)TargA is not much worse than (Z)Snute, and also a top european player. (P)Eiki is dangerous too. However, I think we can take them"

What will be the key to win this match against them?

Ret: "Taking out Snute fast!"

Who would you like to face next if you win: Sweden or Denmark?

Ret: " I'd like to play Denmark so we can play babyknight & bunny. No particular reason, I just like the Danish team."



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no Norway's squad : (Z)Snute, (P)Eiki and (Z)TargA.


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(Wiki)Eiki
After having won NM SpillExpo 2013, (P)Eiki can boast he is the National champion in Norway. This protoss is the best player of the rising team Karnage eSports and is able to show very interesting things. Always good at online competitions and in ladder, (P)Eiki was the revelation of NationWars by taking very important points.

(Wiki)Snute
(Z)Snute is one the most amazing and respectable player in Europe. Second at HomeStory Cup VII, winner at HomeStory Cup VI, he shined in many other other tournaments like SeatStory Cup or TakeTV Ultra Invitationa. The MVP of NationWars I is in shape and seems able to beat any player in the world thanks to his very lovely style. His experience in Proleague and in WCS NA could give to Norway a very good weapon to secure the second title of NationWars.

(Wiki)Targa
The Norwegian Captain had a remarkable run to the semi-finals at 2012 DreamHack Open: Valencia and is one of the rare Zergs able to scare all the European players. This charismatic player managed to create a wonderful team spirit during NationWars I and will be the key of the Norwegian success.


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nl Netherlands's squad: (P)Harstem, (T)uThermal and (Z)Ret.
+ Show Spoiler +

(Wiki)Harstem
(P)Harstem is a macro-oriented Protoss playing for Fnatic. Third at TeSL 2013 - 2014: Season 1, he is known as one of the European Protoss and just managed to qualify one more time in Premier League.

(Wiki)uThermal
(T)uThermal just managed to qualify for Premier League with an incredible style. This Terran is one of the European hot prospect who can surprise the viewers during NationWars. In a big shape, this player, who currently plays for AT Gaming, will be threatened by all his opponents.

(Wiki)Ret
The Captain of the Netherlands was a top player in Europe and is the eldest of the squad. His experience in GSL and all the top tournaments he participated will be an interesting asset for his country.


se Sweden vs. dk Denmark


Interview of (Z)Miniraser, the captain of Sweden:

+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)Miniraser is a Fnatic player and was elected by the other Swedish players as a captain.

Thank you for accepting this crossed interview together.
Hello Miniraser, the Swedish players elected you as the captain of Sweden. What do you think about the Swedish squad?


Miniraser: "It is a decent squad. I am a bit sad we are missing my good friend (P)NaNiwa."

Your opponent is Denmark, which is a new country in NationWars. Are you happy with the draw?

Miniraser: "I think Denmark is pretty dangerous to play since there is a revive card whereas (T)Bunny is really good. (P)BabyKnight also is dangerous but I think (T)Bunny is a bit more scary at the moment."

Who would you like to meet in Ro8 if you win: Norway or Netherlands?

Miniraser: "I want to face the Netherlands because it would be fun to play vs Harstem."


Interview of (P)BabyKnight, the captain of Denmark:

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)BabyKnight is currently playing for Millenium and is the Danish captain.

Thank you for accepting this interview.
You were chosen to be the captain of Denmark for its first participation to NationWars. How does your team feel the competition?


Babyknight: "We're very excited to be a part of NationWars! We believe there are a lot of strong nations out there, but we're definitely one of them. If we are able to play our best and maybe get a little bit lucky, I believe we can win the whole thing!"

You are going to face Sweden. Are you happy with the draw?

Babyknight: "Yes. We are going to destroy them."

What will be the key to win this match against them?

Babyknight: "An end result being 4-0, 4-1, 4-2 or 4-3."

Who would you like to face next if you win: Norway or Netherlands?

Babyknight: "Either will do. We're not scared of anyone!"


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se Sweden's squad: (Z)Miniraser (T)MorroW and (Z)Zanster

+ Show Spoiler +
(Wiki)Miniraser
Miniraser is a young Zerg player playing for Fnatic. Qualified for Ironsquid II, he stands as a reliable player with regular and good performances.

(Wiki)Morrow
Thorzain is not available because of his studies and Sjow just switched to Protoss. MorroW is the best Terran in Sweden at the moment and performed more and more in several tournaments thanks to his new mech style.

(Wiki)Zanster
Zanster showed recently an amazing level in online tournaments, beating some Koreans at Dreamhack thanks to his skyrocketing APM. The Fnatic player is one of the hot prospect in Europe and performed a lot in many cups. Being the best Swedish Zerg should not be enough for this 16 year old player and he obviously wants to show to Europe how sick he can be.


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dk Denmark's squad : (P)BabyKnight (T)Bunny and (P)spacemarine.

+ Show Spoiler +
(Wiki)Babyknight
Time goes by and Babyknight is still one of the top Protoss in Europe. Still in Premier League, the Millenium player has skill, charism and experience to carry his country in NationWars to the victory.

(Wiki)Bunny
Bunny is one of the top European player at the moment. Since his transfer to Team Liquid, the young Terran has levelled up and crushed a lot of top players, especially to reach the top 8 in the last Dreamhack.

(Wiki)Spacemarine
Spacemarine is a very good Protoss, who is currently playing for Team Gravity. He succeeded in many online cups thanks to tailored all-ins and his creativity will be a harmful weapon for his opponents.




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no Norway is the champion and faces a huge step today. However, their great team spirit and choices of maps & players have been good in NationWars and this experience seems priceless. Indeed, nl Netherlands has an amazing line-up with three players who partipated to Premier League in Europe. (T)uThermal could be the silver bullet of his countries to beat the Norwegian swarm. The young Terran has a wonderful TvZ and has recently beaten (Z)Zanster, (Z)FireCake and (Z)SortOf.

Yet, (Z)Snute looks too strong at the moment and the Netherlands may have to kill him twice with a revive.

Both dk Denmark and se Sweden have hot prospects and are becoming more and more impressive. dk Denmark has a very interesting line-up. Like the Netherlands, it is the first time they play NationWars and experience might lack. se Sweden has a culture of winning in eSports and completely failed NationWars. This new squad, carried by (Z)Miniraser, wants to take its revenge and win. (Z)Zanster showed interesting things in ZvT, crushing recently Ryung and even (T)Bunny.

The latter should be the ace of the Danish line-up and remains one of the best non-korean player at the moment. He could bring the victory to Denmark

Predictions:
no Norway > nl Netherlands
se Sweden < dk Denmark

no Norway and dk Denmark to advance.



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Poll: Norway vs. Netherlands?

Norway (77)
 
70%

Netherlands (33)
 
30%

110 total votes

Your vote: Norway vs. Netherlands?

(Vote): Norway
(Vote): Netherlands



Poll: Sweden vs. Denmark?

Sweden (22)
 
27%

Denmark (60)
 
73%

82 total votes

Your vote: Sweden vs. Denmark?

(Vote): Sweden
(Vote): Denmark


+ Show Spoiler +



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O'GamingTV Crew !
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
May 07 2014 03:12 GMT
#286
We still going!
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
May 07 2014 08:05 GMT
#287
On May 07 2014 09:06 OGamingTV wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Pools or polls?
starcraft2.fi
Frosthaze
Profile Joined October 2010
94 Posts
May 07 2014 09:17 GMT
#288
Not long ago Sweden seemed to totally dominate the other nordic countries, but that's obviously not the case anymore. Denmark is going to be a very tough opponent and they are the favourite, but I think we can beat them. Zanister even took one set from Naniwa right before he started to not give a fuck, and Morrow played pretty well during dreamhack I think.


SpawnMoarOverlords
Profile Joined April 2014
400 Posts
May 07 2014 10:42 GMT
#289
Although the Danish squad is seriously handicaped by the fact thar there's no Protoss for Bunny to kill in the Swedish team, they should still take it. As for the other match GOOOOOOGOOO SNUUUUTE !
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 16:03:52
May 07 2014 16:01 GMT
#290
On May 07 2014 09:06 OGamingTV wrote:


fr O'GamingTV with Pomf, Thud, Anoss, (T)FunKa and (Z)MoMaN
gb Thomas "Khaldor" Killian
de TaKeTV with Dennis "TaKe" Gehlen
ru Sergei "(P)Pomi" Rodionov
pl EmScTV with Emil
es HysteRya and Pr0gr4m3r
it Vasacast



The O'Gaming link is broken. 'Page not found''. Link here guys if you want the O'Gaming stream: http://www.ogaming.tv/stream/ogaming-tv-3

I would recommend it by the way, the production is superb. What a lovely studio!

Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
May 07 2014 17:15 GMT
#291
It is more like every other nation other than Korea with 5 pro players war...
jk. not really.
Very interesting game by Snute and Harstem.
I wonder if the island expos are going to be much more popular from now on.
gl hf
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 07 2014 20:39 GMT
#292
Morrow stealing the show! Very impressive!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
May 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#293
What happened to Tod and Grubby? =(
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27468 Posts
May 08 2014 00:34 GMT
#294
Getting more hyped by the day
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
May 08 2014 06:34 GMT
#295
BarCraft Aachen is proud to host a BarCraft for the match between Germany and Canada! More information can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/events/637109943044959/
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
May 09 2014 01:29 GMT
#296
All of the hype
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
May 10 2014 15:52 GMT
#297
So... are there English VODs of this anywhere? According to the above Khaldor was supposed to have cast this, but I am finding nothing related to this on his Twitch or Youtube pages.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
May 10 2014 16:16 GMT
#298
This is so exciting, hope we get the live finals (even though I'm away on the 26th ).
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 16:42:26
May 10 2014 16:42 GMT
#299
On April 25 2014 02:40 Bagration wrote:
Damn, the French really book nice venues


This is true. Really wish I could go.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Menmoria
Profile Joined June 2014
France1 Post
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 17:02:23
June 23 2014 16:36 GMT
#300
http://www.kisskissbankbank.com/nationwars-2-au-trianon-de-paris

Second objective achieved
+165.000€
Trianon de Paris, WE COMING.
+corean against winner NW2

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