EPT[Code A] Group D Season 2 2014 - Page 13
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Destructicon
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
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Qwerty85
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2? ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) ★★★- Good game (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3? ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) ★★★- Good game (0) ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what | ||
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Swiipii
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
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EthanS
United States206 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Mkay Didn't see that coming | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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EthanS
United States206 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Also, not sure why he decided to go super eco-greed against Protoss... :S Especially on close spawns. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Paralyze 4-0s, Cure 0-4s Mkay Didn't see that coming Did you legitimately expect Cure to beat anyone in this group? :S | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
Super eco greed isn't all that bad, but he really didn't take any precautions at all to be safe. Very late bunker on his part and it just ended up snowballing from there. Had he had at least the 1st bunker that whole sequence of events would have looked different, he could have had more units, better eco, could have placed down more bunkers etc. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:09 Destructicon wrote: Super eco greed isn't all that bad, but he really didn't take any precautions at all to be safe. Very late bunker on his part and it just ended up snowballing from there. Had he had at least the 1st bunker that whole sequence of events would have looked different. Well the reason I called it "super eco-greed" is specifically because he skipped on a lot of defense / scouting and basically hoped Super wouldn't attack. The hidden 3rd isn't necessarily so bad but he essentially went all-in with it by disregarding any safety precautions. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:09 Destructicon wrote: Super eco greed isn't all that bad, but he really didn't take any precautions at all to be safe. Very late bunker on his part and it just ended up snowballing from there. Had he had at least the 1st bunker that whole sequence of events would have looked different. I think it was more a case of super greed with two helions. You must invest into a factory, you must spend 200 minerals on those helions and he even lost them. Fast third with additional rax to get more units out + more bunkers would probably be better. Not sure if he would survive or not but I think it was more about the combo of fast 3rd and helions that killed him. | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Well the reason I called it "super eco-greed" is specifically because he skipped on a lot of defense / scouting and basically hoped Super wouldn't attack. The hidden 3rd isn't necessarily so bad but he essentially went all-in with it by disregarding any safety precautions. Yeah, I get what you are saying. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Did you legitimately expect Cure to beat anyone in this group? :S Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:12 Qwerty85 wrote: I think it was more a case of super greed with two helions. You must invest into a factory, you must spend 200 minerals on those helions and he even lost them. Fast third with additional rax to get more units out + more bunkers would probably be better. Not sure if he would survive or not but I think it was more about the combo of fast 3rd and helions that killed him. he just got destroyed in every game where he transitioned normally. i think the 3rd ninja cc was just an act of desperation and this will always look silly when its punished i think the idea behind the late bunker is that because he goes for early reactor hellions, protoss should be scared and stay in his base to defend against any more potential hellions that could come. when those 3 stalkers move out there might come 4 unexpected hellions into his base and he loses to that. ofcourse it is risky to rely on protoss being scared to move out but it was a risk he felt needed to win the game | ||
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EthanS
United States206 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first Paralyze looked like the only one who actually prepared. | ||
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absinthfee
Germany718 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On April 10 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first That's an interesting viewpoint. Personally I don't see how Super and YongHwa can be construed as low-tier Protosses, and ParalyzE has apparently just proven his worth on top of that. + Show Spoiler [Initial Aligulac prediction] + And for the record Cure's lifetime TvP winrate is 41.67%.  | ||
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